Batcat
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People who buy guns legally normally are honest citizens.
Then we have a group you are probably scared to death of. Those who have concealed weapons permits and carry legally.
FBI too busy monitoring Twitter to worry about Fentanyl shipments from Mexico.
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Then we have a group you are probably scared to death of. Those who have concealed weapons permits and carry legally.
JoeB131
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Oh, yes, nuts with tiny penises carrying guns as compensation worry me all the time.
VPC: Concealed Carry Killers
concealedcarrykillers.org
The reality is, most murders are not vicious criminals, they are domestic violence. That's why the murder rate spiked during Covid even though we were all locked up in our homes.
MarathonMike
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The "real world" as defined by your news sources like CNN, MSNBC, The View, Late Night TV. The leadership of FBI should all be fired and replaced by current agents as voted for by existing FBI agents.
Batcat
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In passing how did you determine that men with tiny penises carry guns as compenstation. Did you do that research on your own or did you just take the word of a lying liberal spouting nonsense. Speaking from experience you do not have to get your penis measured to get a carry permit and it would take a LOT of cojones for some fool to walk up to an individual and ask him if he had a concealed weapons permit and if he replied, “Yes” to ask if he could measure the man’s penis size.Oh, yes, nuts with tiny penises carrying guns as compensation worry me all the time.
VPC: Concealed Carry Killers
concealedcarrykillers.org
The reality is, most murders are not vicious criminals, they are domestic violence. That's why the murder rate spiked during Covid even though we were all locked up in our homes.
By the way women also carry concealed handguns. Next you will me that all women have tiny penises.
In Florida 29% of the concealed weapons permits have been issued to females.
************On to the VPC report************
As usual liberals and democrats love to lie. You can take any report form the VPC with a grain of salt if not the entire salt shaker.
You may ask why the news media accepts reports like this as factual.
Obviously the liberal news media is all for disarming American citizens. To the liberal media in our nation today, the end justifies the means and also the meals you eat.To work for the mainstream media today and get paid youI have to forget anything you learned in journalism school. For example the liberal media could have fact checked the Steele Dossier on Trump and figured out right from the start that it was false. Fox News managed to do this.The FBI also did but unfortunately it is corrupt at the top if not all the way down.
Violence Policy Center keeps using using Justifiable Homicide data to make false claims about defensive gun use
It has become an annual rite with the Violence Policy Center to release a report claiming, “Firearms 100 times more likely to kill women than protect them.” Last year, the New York Times and Vice c…
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FAIL: Violence Policy Center Is Caught Fabricating Anti-Gun Data. Again. Still.
The liberty control movement is getting absolutely fleeced by Josh Sugarmann. The head of the Violence Policy Center had precisely one reporter (me) ask a question during his pre-NRA Annual Meeting s...
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JoeB131
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Oh, every time I talk to one of you ammosexuals. A man never loved a woman with the passion you guys LOVE your guns.
Which is stupid, given that a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than a bad guy.
Um, because they actually researched it.. They find cases where concealled carry owners shot people in anger.
Um, actually, the Steele Dossier earned credibility because Trump is secretive about his business dealings, tax returns... So someone claiming that the Russians own him would have credibility.
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Guns to me are tools for my hobby of target shooting much like fishing poles for a guy who lives fishing or golf clubs for a golfer. It is hard to target shoot a handgun at a pistol range if you don’t have a handgun.
What exactly does the fact that people commit suicide in their houses have to do with the fact that a large number of women legally carry concealed firearms? There are may ways ot commit suicide. If a person doesn’t own a gun they can find all sorts of ways to end their lives. Today they can just buy some illegal fentanyl from China and Mexico and end things quickly. They can thank Joe Biden and his open border for making their death much easier and less bloody.
I pointed out articles that showed the VPC inflated the facts to fit their narrative. The fact remains that those who carry firearms in states that require a license for concealed carry are the most honest group of citizens in their state.
What Do Concealed Carry Statistics Tell Us? – Silencer Central
It’s no secret that gun laws, such as the right to carry concealed weapons, have fallen under a bit of scrutiny in the past few years. Concealed carry is currently legal in some way, shape or form in…
www.silencercentral.com
The Steele Dossier was over Trump’s Tax Returns? That is laughable. Did you hear that on CNN?
JoeB131
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I'm not aware of 45,000 golf club deaths a year.
Its not just the suicides (which are made easier with guns and less likely that you can save the person), it's also the domestic homicides. As I said, there's a reason why the homicide rate went up in 2020, which was that we were all locked in our houses with people we could barely stand to start with.
Right, from Cray-cray Ammosexual sites.
Logic isn't your strong suit, is it?
So let's review.
1) We know the Russians interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump.
2) We know that Trump had a lot of business interests in Russia.
3) We know that Trump hid his tax returns for unknown reasons.
So when an established intelligence guy like Steele comes along and says, 'Hey, here are some indications that the Russians and Trump might be in cahoots", that's probably a good reason to look into that.
Sweet Evil Jesus, man, your side launched a $70 million dollar investigation into an old land deal the Clintons were involved in that eventually lead to an investigation into his sex life, and you thought that was justified.
Batcat
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You don’t see 45,000 deaths a year at pistol ranges either, smart guy.
So Putin didn’t want to seen Hillary win the Oval Office. Perhaps he tried to influence our elections. In the first place a lot of people in this nation felt the same way as Putin and didn’t want to see Hillary win either. Putin is not stupid. He knows Hillary is untrustworthy.
So perhaps Putin did try to mess up our elections in 2016. Nothing unusual about that. We try to influence elections all over the world.
newspunch.com
You believe your propaganda from anti gun sites. I doubt if you even bother to check it to see if they are treating you like a good sheeple that will believe any and all the lies they post.
Your whole argument on the Steele Dossier being about Trump’s tax returns fell apart when you called Steele ”an established intelligence guy.”
nypost.com
The reality is that all spy agencies lie as part of their job and they are damn good at it. If you hear something from an intelligence source chances are it is a lie. (For example weapons of mass distraction in Iraq.)
trendingpolitics.com
So Putin didn’t want to seen Hillary win the Oval Office. Perhaps he tried to influence our elections. In the first place a lot of people in this nation felt the same way as Putin and didn’t want to see Hillary win either. Putin is not stupid. He knows Hillary is untrustworthy.
So perhaps Putin did try to mess up our elections in 2016. Nothing unusual about that. We try to influence elections all over the world.
US Interfered In Foreign Elections 81 Times In 54 Years
US found to have interfered in foreign elections at least 81 times between 1946 and 2000 - not counting US-backed coups or regime changes.
newspunch.com
You believe your propaganda from anti gun sites. I doubt if you even bother to check it to see if they are treating you like a good sheeple that will believe any and all the lies they post.
Your whole argument on the Steele Dossier being about Trump’s tax returns fell apart when you called Steele ”an established intelligence guy.”
The FBI knew RussiaGate was a lie — but hid that truth
Evidence revealed by special counsel John Durham proves it beyond dispute.
nypost.com
The reality is that all spy agencies lie as part of their job and they are damn good at it. If you hear something from an intelligence source chances are it is a lie. (For example weapons of mass distraction in Iraq.)
HUGE: New York Times Finally Admits That Steele Dossier Was A Lie and "False"
After years and years of lying to the American people, the New York Times has finally admitted that the Steele dossier against […] More
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Batcat
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Once again how do you know if people who legally carry concealed have small penises? Did you measure them yourself. Find a reputable survey that proves your point.Oh, yes, nuts with tiny penises carrying guns as compensation worry me all the time.
VPC: Concealed Carry Killers
concealedcarrykillers.org
The reality is, most murders are not vicious criminals, they are domestic violence. That's why the murder rate spiked during Covid even though we were all locked up in our homes.
It seems liberals have a hang up about penis size. Any male that owns something they don’t like has to have a small penis. Another example is big trucks.
JoeB131
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No, you don't, but I wasn't talking about ranges. I was talking about homes. You don't hear bout 45,000 golf club deaths at home, either. I'm sure there are a few murders where someone took someone out with a 2 iron, but they aren't designed specifically to kill people.
We also never hear of a guy going to a shopping mall and a preschool doing a mass clubbing.
So you've moved from denying Russian Interference to justifying it.
If Putin wanted Trump to win, that's a pretty good reason for most Americans to be against him winning.
Facts and figures aren't propaganda.
We have 45,000 gun deaths and 70,000 gun injuries every year.
We have 400,000 crimes committed with guns, every year.
We have police armed like soldiers who are likely to gun you down if you reach for a cell-phone because they are so paranoid.
We have 270 Billion in economic losses every year, related to gun violence.
And you guys are fine with this.
Christopher Steele - Wikipedia
Steele was recruited by MI6 directly following his graduation from Cambridge[11] and worked for MI6 for 22 years.[17] He worked in London at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) from 1987 to 1989.[11] From 1990 to 1993, Steele worked under diplomatic cover as an MI6 officer in Moscow, serving at the Embassy of the United Kingdom in Moscow.[10][15][18] Steele was an "internal traveller", surviving over thirty Aeroflot flights [19]and visiting newly-accessible cities such as Samara and Kazan.[12][20][21]
He returned to London in 1993, working again at the FCO until his posting with the British Embassy in Paris in 1998, where he served under diplomatic cover until 2002. The identity of Steele as an MI6 officer and those of a hundred and sixteen other British spies were revealed in an anonymously published list.[10][18][22][23][24]
In 2003, Steele was sent to Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan as part of an MI6 team, briefing Special Forces on "kill or capture" missions for Taliban targets, and also spent time teaching new MI6 recruits.[18] Steele returned to London and between 2006 and 2009 he headed the Russia Desk at MI6.[10][12][15][25]
He served as a senior officer under John Scarlett, Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), from 2004 to 2009.[25] Steele was a counterintelligence specialist[17] and was selected as case officer for Alexander Litvinenko and participated in the investigation of the Litvinenko poisoning in 2006.[18] It was Steele who quickly realised that Litvinenko's death "was a Russian state 'hit'".[25] Twelve years later, Russian double agent Boris Karpichkov alleged that Steele himself was included in a hit list of the Russian Federal Security Service, along with Sergei Skripal who was poisoned in 2018 by a binary chemical weapon Novichok in Britain.[26]
Since 2009, Steele has not been to Russia or any other former Soviet states. In 2012, an Orbis informant quoted an FSB-agent describing him as an "enemy of Mother Russia".[10] Steele has refrained from travelling to the United States since his authorship of the Steele dossier became public, citing the political and legal situation.[27]
In 2012, Orbis was sub-contracted by a law firm representing Oleg Deripaska,[28] who was also a "person of interest" to the Senate Intelligence Committee's investigation into Russia's election interference.[29] Between 2014 and 2016, together with Bruce Ohr, Steele cooperated with the FBI's and Justice Department's unsuccessful efforts to flip Deripaska into an informant.[30]
Wow, this is how crazy the Trump Cult have become. The Intelligence Agencies are the enemy. The military is the enemy. Republicans you previously supported are the enemy if they don't bend down and kiss Trump's ring.
Easier than admitting our flawed system let a completely unqualified person become president, and he proceeded to screw it up.
Wow, I hit a sensitive point, didn't I, Tiny?
Batcat
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No, you don't, but I wasn't talking about ranges. I was talking about homes. You don't hear bout 45,000 golf club deaths at home, either. I'm sure there are a few murders where someone took someone out with a 2 iron, but they aren't designed specifically to kill people.
We also never hear of a guy going to a shopping mall and a preschool doing a mass clubbing.
So you've moved from denying Russian Interference to justifying it.
If Putin wanted Trump to win, that's a pretty good reason for most Americans to be against him winning.
Facts and figures aren't propaganda.
We have 45,000 gun deaths and 70,000 gun injuries every year.
We have 400,000 crimes committed with guns, every year.
We have police armed like soldiers who are likely to gun you down if you reach for a cell-phone because they are so paranoid.
We have 270 Billion in economic losses every year, related to gun violence.
And you guys are fine with this.
Christopher Steele - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Steele was recruited by MI6 directly following his graduation from Cambridge[11] and worked for MI6 for 22 years.[17] He worked in London at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) from 1987 to 1989.[11] From 1990 to 1993, Steele worked under diplomatic cover as an MI6 officer in Moscow, serving at the Embassy of the United Kingdom in Moscow.[10][15][18] Steele was an "internal traveller", surviving over thirty Aeroflot flights [19]and visiting newly-accessible cities such as Samara and Kazan.[12][20][21]
He returned to London in 1993, working again at the FCO until his posting with the British Embassy in Paris in 1998, where he served under diplomatic cover until 2002. The identity of Steele as an MI6 officer and those of a hundred and sixteen other British spies were revealed in an anonymously published list.[10][18][22][23][24]
In 2003, Steele was sent to Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan as part of an MI6 team, briefing Special Forces on "kill or capture" missions for Taliban targets, and also spent time teaching new MI6 recruits.[18] Steele returned to London and between 2006 and 2009 he headed the Russia Desk at MI6.[10][12][15][25]
He served as a senior officer under John Scarlett, Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), from 2004 to 2009.[25] Steele was a counterintelligence specialist[17] and was selected as case officer for Alexander Litvinenko and participated in the investigation of the Litvinenko poisoning in 2006.[18] It was Steele who quickly realised that Litvinenko's death "was a Russian state 'hit'".[25] Twelve years later, Russian double agent Boris Karpichkov alleged that Steele himself was included in a hit list of the Russian Federal Security Service, along with Sergei Skripal who was poisoned in 2018 by a binary chemical weapon Novichok in Britain.[26]
Since 2009, Steele has not been to Russia or any other former Soviet states. In 2012, an Orbis informant quoted an FSB-agent describing him as an "enemy of Mother Russia".[10] Steele has refrained from travelling to the United States since his authorship of the Steele dossier became public, citing the political and legal situation.[27]
In 2012, Orbis was sub-contracted by a law firm representing Oleg Deripaska,[28] who was also a "person of interest" to the Senate Intelligence Committee's investigation into Russia's election interference.[29] Between 2014 and 2016, together with Bruce Ohr, Steele cooperated with the FBI's and Justice Department's unsuccessful efforts to flip Deripaska into an informant.[30]
Wow, this is how crazy the Trump Cult have become. The Intelligence Agencies are the enemy. The military is the enemy. Republicans you previously supported are the enemy if they don't bend down and kiss Trump's ring.
Easier than admitting our flawed system let a completely unqualified person become president, and he proceeded to screw it up.
Wow, I hit a sensitive point, didn't I, Tiny?
No you didn’t hit a sensitive point. Smart guy.
We right now have a corrupt politician, Joe Biden, sitting in the Oval Office and he is suffering from dementia. How is that working out? …
Everything Is Worse Under Biden
townhall.com
Tucker Carlson’s Biden documentary exposes media, Deep State corruption during 2020 election - LifeSite
'The institutional centers of American life — the media, the tech companies, federal law enforcement — are not fully committed to protecting the people in charge at all costs. They are rotten to the core. And the way they dealt with the Hunter Biden laptop story proves it.'
www.lifesitenews.com
JoeB131
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Wonderfully.
3.7% unemployment.
No riots.
No mass Covid Deaths
I am about to post my first six figure year.
Thank God we got rid of that piece of Garbage, Trump. Now we need to prosecute his ass so no other whacky billionaire tries the same thing.
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The riots were staged by the Democrats to make Trump look bad and to insure a big black voter turn out.
Trump set up a warp speed program to hasten the development of Covid vaccines in record time. If Hillary had been the President we would likely still be waiting for the first vaccine.
We still have employment problems. It seems nobody wants to fill many of the available jobs With low pay and benefits.
Why Are Unemployment Levels So High Despite Record Job Openings? – GREY Journal
In June 2021, there were 10.1 million job openings, but 8.7 million Americans remain unemployed. What is the cause of such a disparity?
greyjournal.net
I was just talking to a lady who had went grocery shopping today. She said the meat isle was depleted and many items were out of stock. Never had that problem when Trump was in office.
Home heating bills are expected to skyrocket this year.
I would take Trump over Joe Biden as President every day of the week and twice on Sunday. But I hope DeSantis runs and becomes the Republican candidate. He is my Governor and the best Governor I have seen in my half century of living in Florida.
JoeB131
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Really? Did Democrats arrange for Chauvin to Choke Floyd to death. Hey, maybe Floyd and Chauvin were both Crisis Actors, because you are getting into that level of ******* crazy.
The riots happened as a response to Trump. Trump all but endorsed police misconduct for four years, to the point where even Police Chiefs felt the need to denounce him.
Was Trump in the lab, personally mixing the test tubes? The fact is the technology is a decade old, and one of the Vaccines wasn't even developed in the US.
That's not actually a problem. That's people who shouldn't be in business. The reality is, most companies have a hard time filling jobs with good pay.
Um, what? Funny, I've never seen the grocery problems you guys keep claiming. I go to the store once a week, and damn, if I have ever seen any empty shelves.
I did see a LOT of empty shelves during Trump and Covid, though.
Yeah, funny, I don't see Trump going quietly into the night. If DeSantis becomes the GOP candidate, assuming people don't realize he's kind of a dull speaker and a religious nut, he's going to have to deal with Trump as a third party candidate.
MarathonMike
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Trump did more positive things for America in one term than Obama and Biden have done in three. If you back the Democrats, you are on team China.
Bob Blaylock
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If not for Democrapic pro-criminal policies, the subhuman criminal piece of shit George Floyd would probably have been in prison at the time, instead of out on the streets committing more crimes.
Its last conviction was for an aggravated armed robbery with a deadly weapon, in 2007. It only got sentenced to five years for that crime—an absurdly light sentence giving the severity and circumstances of that crime. Especially given its past established criminal history, it ought to have been kept locked up for at least twenty years, and preferably for life.
Batcat
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Obviously you have your views and I have mine. I doubt if that will change.
In my opinion, I believe Joe Biden has serious mental aging problems and is suffering from dementia. He probably is not calling the shots from the White House but is being told what to do and say by his puppet masters.
I also believe the man is corrupt and has profited by selling his influence to other nations, some of which are our enemies.
The next two years will be interesting as the Republicans appear willing to launch committee investigations into Joe and Hunter Biden. Can your liberal media totally ignore all the news that will emerge from these hearings? Are the Bidens totally above the rule of law like most high level Democrats.
One of the reasons I liked the Trump Presidency is he didn’t start any new wars.
With Biden in office we are on the verge of WWIII in Europe And it might be a nuclear war. China is threatening Taiwan and Little Rocket Man is busy launching missiles again. Iran will have nuclear weapons soon and Israel many decide to launch a first strike rather than wait to be nuked.
JoeB131
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Um, what positive? Trump left the country worse off in every metric.
The first President since Hoover to post a net jobs loss
The worst Epidemic in 100 years
the worst Recession in 80 years.
The worst Race riots in 50 years.
China is not my enemy, and frankly the attempts by the Right Wing to make it one are positively dangerous. (Full Disclosure, I am currently dating a woman from China, so, yes, I have a bias). China has never done anything bad to me or even America, for that matter. (and no, I don't want to hear about the Korean War.)
We don't have enough room in the prisons to hold the people we have now, Mormon Bob. And, no, I don't think passing a fake $20 is something you should be killed over. But then again, I don't have your murder boner.
For what, a simple robbery. The average time served for armed robbery is 5 to 10 years. So Floyd served about the average.
Now, you are supposedly a Christian, and you guys supposedly believe in redemption.
Would you be interested to know that after his release
After his release, Floyd became more involved with Resurrection Houston, a Christian church and ministry, where he mentored young men and posted anti-violence videos to social media.[6][7][8][9] He delivered meals to senior citizens and volunteered with other projects, such as the Angel By Nature Foundation, a charity founded by rapper Trae tha Truth.[44] Later, Floyd became involved with a ministry that brought men from the Third Ward to Minnesota in a church-work program with drug rehabilitation and job placement services.[6] A friend of his acknowledged that Floyd "had made some mistakes that cost him some years of his life", but that he had been turning his life around through religion.[7]
In 2014, Floyd moved to Minneapolis to help rebuild his life and find work.[45][46] Soon after his arrival, he completed a 90-day rehabilitation program at the Turning Point program in north Minneapolis. Floyd expressed the need for a job and took up security work at Harbor Light Center, a Salvation Army homeless shelter.[41] He lost the job at Harbor Light and took several other jobs. Floyd hoped to earn a commercial driver's license to operate trucks. He passed the required drug test and administrators of the program felt his criminal past did not pose a problem, but he dropped out as his job at a nightclub made it difficult to attend morning classes, and he felt pressure to earn money. Floyd later moved to St. Louis Park and lived with former colleagues.[41] Floyd continued to battle drug addiction and went through periods of use and sobriety.[41]
An influential member of his community, Floyd was respected for his ability to relate with others in his environment based on a shared experience of hardships and setbacks, having served time in prison and living in a poverty-stricken project in Houston.[7] In a video addressing the youth in his neighborhood, Floyd reminds his audience that he has his own "shortcomings" and "flaws" and that he is not better than anyone else, but also expresses his disdain for the violence that was taking place in the community, and advises his neighbors to put down their weapons and remember that they are loved by him and God.[7]
Wow, despite his personal demons, the guy sounds like a better Christian than you are on your best day, Mormon Bob.
Frankly, I haven't seen anything from you that has the least amount of grace or compassion. You kind of help me reinforce my negative opinions about Mormons by being such an awful person.
JoeB131
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Yes, I'm sure a steady diet of Hate Radio and Faux News would have you believe that, but it's Trump who has been acting increasingly unhinged in the last few months.
Meanwhile, Biden continues to work to get legislation passed, and solving the actual problems.
Frankly, you haven't made a good case that Hunter Biden had broken any laws, and Congress ALREADY investigated Joe's dealing with Hunter and came up with nothing.
Yes, it's so adorable when you wingnuts who never saw a war you didn't like under Dubya pretend to be a ******* hippy drum circle now. Trump's idea of "peace" was to sell out the few people in the Islamic world willing to side with us (the Kurds in Syria, the Afghan government).
Thank God we have a grown up in the White House then?
What would be your solutions to any of these problems? Let Putin take over Ukraine? let China take over Taiwan? Have Trump lavish praise on Kim until he stops?
Oh, and I've been hearing the Zionist bullshit artists say, "IRAN IS ABOUT TO GET THE BOMB!!!" since the ******* early 1990's. I'm tired of hearing it. The Zionists don't want us to go to war because of Imaginary Nukes, they want us to go to war to take out support for the Palestinian people.
Bob Blaylock
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I am not at all concerned about what opinion is held of my character, by a piece of shit that openly takes the side of subhuman criminal filth against that of human beings.
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