FBI doubted probable cause for Mar-a-Lago raid but pushed forward amid pressure from Biden DOJ, emails reveal

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And who is it that provides 'evidence of probable cause'...........pssst..............it ain't the judge.

The evidence that compelled the judge to grant the warrant, and that was proven correct?

You tell us. We owe them a congratulations for being right.

 

[Marener]

And who is it that provides 'evidence of probable cause'...........pssst..............it ain't the judge. GIVE UP!

Hey! Good job. Does this email give you any reason to say that the evidence presented to the judge was false in any way; shape or form? And if you say yes, you are going to need to show where it says so.

He never said that.

It’s exactly what he’s saying. Kash Patel says anyone who doesn’t follow orders will be fired.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No illicitly retained documents were ever found. The. FBI brought empty "classified" folders with them and staged some photos.

 

[Delldude]

Hey! Good job. Does this email give you any reason to say that the evidence presented to the judge was false in any way; shape or form? And if you say yes, you are going to need to show where it says so.

Duh...........the same FBI that lied to a judge for Carter Page and the Crossfire Hurricane FISA warrants were also the same FBI that obtained the Mar A Lago warrant.....

 

[Marener]

Duh...........the same FBI that lied to a judge for Carter Page and the Crossfire Hurricane FISA warrants were also the same FBI that obtained the Mar A Lago warrant.

So you have nothing

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No illicitly retained documents were ever found. The. FBI brought empty "classified" folders with them and staged some photos.

Liar. They found mountains of them.

 

[Delldude]

So you have nothing

I'd say it's everything. Comey's FBI, Comeys Crossfire Hurricane liars, and Comey's Mar A Lago agents whom some were with the now discredited CH investigation.

Your issue here is deciphering what 'declassified' means. 'Declassified' documents weren't what the media created the stories that you're so addicted to.

You pulled the same bullshit when the Russia Collusion declassified documents were released, you argued what was reported in the media was more accurate than the declassified info.

Talk about an useful idiot.

 

[DonGlock26]

Yep. The Rapist in Chief.

What rape?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And he steals from charities, when he is not committing felonies or sexual assault

 

[Marener]

I'd say it's everything. Comey's FBI, Comeys Crossfire Hurricane liars, and Comey's Mar A Lago agents whom some were with the now discredited CH investigation.

Your issue here is deciphering what 'declassified' means. 'Declassified' documents weren't what the media created the stories that you're so addicted to.

You pulled the same bullshit when the Russia Collusion declassified documents were released, you argued what was reported in the media was more accurate than the declassified info.

Talk about an useful idiot.

Comey left the FBI in, what, 2017? The Mar a Lago warrant came in 2022. So it wasn’t Comey’s FBI.

Tell us what information in the warrant is false. I’m dying to know.

 

[Delldude]

Comey left the FBI in, what, 2017? The Mar a Lago warrant came in 2022. So it wasn’t Comey’s FBI.

You have a habit of conveniently overlooking obvious facts.
As I pointed out, the agents who were involved in CH, Russia Russia Russia, and Mar A Lago, all were with Comey and on CH and Russia, which declassified documents have shown facts and protocols were disregarded.

Tell us what information in the warrant is false.

You'd have to question the senior FBI agent who said he didn't care about the optics being brought to light questioning probable cause for the warrant.
Then the agents who doctored and mislead a FISA judge (Boasberg) suddenly now are telling the truth for the Mar A Lago warrant?

And don't forget, FBI was caught doctoring evidence at Mar A Lago.

Next question?

 

[Marener]

You have a habit of conveniently overlooking obvious facts.
As I pointed out, the agents who were involved in CH, Russia Russia Russia, and Mar A Lago, all were with Comey and on CH and Russia, which declassified documents have shown facts and protocols were disregarded.

Name them.

You'd have to question the senior FBI agent who said he didn't care about the optics being brought to light questioning probable cause for the warrant.

I like people in government who aren’t intimidated by criminals like Trump. I think national security and prosecuting the law take preference over baseless concerns about “optics”. Whoever was worried about Trump and MAGA whining about executing a search warrant don’t have enough courage to be in the FBI.

Then the agents who doctored and mislead a FISA judge (Boasberg) suddenly now are telling the truth for the Mar A Lago warrant

The only one who doctored anything was fired and prosecuted, Clinesmith.

Go ahead and point out anything that was untrue in the Mar a Lago warrant. You can’t.

And don't forget, FBI was caught doctoring evidence at Mar A Lago.

Nope. Another lie by right wing media.

Next question?

Do you know you’re lying or do you just repeat what you’re told to believe?

 

[Delldude]

I think national security and prosecuting the law take preference over baseless concerns about “optics”.

Optics and constitutionally complying with the law.

The only one who doctored anything was fired and prosecuted, Clinesmith.

The only one.....

Funny his attorney admitted Clinesmith wasn't the only one involved in cutting the warrants.

Go ahead and point out anything that was untrue in the Mar a Lago warrant.

Recent declassified FBI email revelations are all I need.

The issue of Trump's legal possession of the documents wasn't addressed.

'**** the optics'

Nope. Another lie by right wing media.

FBI/DOJ admitted in court the files weren't scattered all over the floor but media ran with the lie.

Name them

Per AI:

FBI agents involved in the Crossfire Hurricane (Trump-Russia investigation) and the Mar-a-Lago document search included senior officials like Jay Bratt (DOJ counterintelligence) and Paul Abbate (FBI Deputy Director), with agents from the Washington Field Office, including those interacting with Trump's team (like Evan Corcoran's team), and key Crossfire Hurricane figures such as supervisor Brian Auten, highlighting internal debates over tactics, especially regarding the Mar-a-Lago raid's necessity after initial document returns.

 

[Marener]

Optics and constitutionally complying with the law.

Are totally separate things. You may not like the optics, but they complied with the law and constitution.

The only one.....

Funny his attorney admitted Clinesmith wasn't the only one involved in cutting the warrants.

Years long investigations failed to turn up anyone else. Do you have information they don’t? Obviously not.

Recent declassified FBI email revelations are all I need.

The email offers an opinion from some low level agent who was proven incorrect.

The issue of Trump's legal possession of the documents wasn't addressed.

Considering he possessed documents that were supposed to have been turned over after he received a subpoena, he is at the very least guilty of obstruction.

'**** the optics'

I agree. **** the optics. Why are you so worried about “optics”? Because you don’t have anything else to argue.

FBI/DOJ admitted in court the files weren't scattered all over the floor but media ran with the lie.

No one thought they were “scattered all over the floor”. That’s just how the FBI documents evidence. All that matters is that Trump had them.

Per AI:
FBI agents involved in the Crossfire Hurricane (Trump-Russia investigation) and the Mar-a-Lago document search included senior officials like Jay Bratt (DOJ counterintelligence) and Paul Abbate (FBI Deputy Director), with agents from the Washington Field Office, including those interacting with Trump's team (like Evan Corcoran's team), and key Crossfire Hurricane figures such as supervisor Brian Auten, highlighting internal debates over tactics, especially regarding the Mar-a-Lago raid's necessity after initial document returns.

And? Which of these people had anything to do with Carter Page’s warrant?

 

[Delldude]

Are totally separate things. You may not like the optics, but they complied with the law and constitution.

Years long investigations failed to turn up anyone else. Do you have information they don’t? Obviously not.

The email offers an opinion from some low level agent who was proven incorrect.

Considering he possessed documents that were supposed to have been turned over after he received a subpoena, he is at the very least guilty of obstruction.

I agree. **** the optics. Why are you so worried about “optics”? Because you don’t have anything else to argue.

No one thought they were “scattered all over the floor”. That’s just how the FBI documents evidence. All that matters is that Trump had them.

And? Which of these people had anything to do with Carter Page’s warrant?

Give it up.....loser.

 

[Marener]

Give it up.

You first. This little story about scared FBI agents is pointless.

Someone didn’t think they had probable cause. The lawyers did. The lawyers were correct.

Sorry, but we shouldn’t let weak, fearful agents run the show at the DoJ.

 

[Delldude]

You first. This little story about scared FBI agents is pointless.

Someone didn’t think they had probable cause. The lawyers did. The lawyers were correct.

Sorry, but we shouldn’t let weak, fearful agents run the show at the DoJ.

You lost the argument many posts ago. Get a life.

Have a nice evening, loser.

 

[Marener]

You lost the argument many posts ago. Get a life.

Have a nice evening, loser.

Nah. You lost the argument when you tried to claim the DoJ lied on the warrant for Mar a Lago and couldn’t back it up.

 

[Robert W]

You first. This little story about scared FBI agents is pointless.

Someone didn’t think they had probable cause. The lawyers did. The lawyers were correct.

Sorry, but we shouldn’t let weak, fearful agents run the show at the DoJ.

https://conservativebrief.com/bidens-fbi-2-97479/

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Biden’s FBI Had No ‘Probable Cause’ To Raid Mar-a-Lago: Memos​

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Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel are preparing to provide Congress with internal emails that they say show FBI officials warned the Justice Department during the Biden administration that there was insufficient probable cause to search former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence, officials told Just the News.

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The emails are set to be provided to the Senate and House Judiciary Committees as early as Tuesday. This comes ahead of a scheduled deposition on Wednesday from former special prosecutor Jack Smith, who took over the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case just months after the August 2022 raid on Trump’s home—an event that significantly impacted the political landscape leading up to the 2024 election, Just the News reported.
Internal memos prepared by the FBI’s Washington field office indicate that agents did not believe probable cause had been established before the search of former President Donald Trump’s Florida residence, according to a source with direct knowledge of the documents slated to be turned over to Congress.

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The source said the memos reflect internal concerns within the FBI about whether the Justice Department, under the Biden administration, had met the legal threshold required to obtain a search warrant. Despite those concerns, prosecutors moved forward with the search, officials told the outlet.
Disagreements among FBI personnel over the decision to search Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home have been previously reported, but the emails expected to be released provide more detailed accounts of the specific objections raised by agents regarding the sufficiency of probable cause, the outlet reported.

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The search of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence became a major political flashpoint ahead of the 2024 presidential election and ultimately led to two federal indictments against Trump. Both cases were later dismissed.
Republicans have argued that the prosecutions were politically motivated, a claim the Justice Department has denied, said the report.

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As part of its oversight of the federal investigations into Trump, the House Judiciary Committee recently issued a subpoena requiring Special Counsel Jack Smith to sit for a closed-door deposition on Wednesday, Just the News noted further.
“The Committee on the Judiciary is continuing to conduct oversight of the operations of the Office of Special Counsel you led — specifically, your team’s prosecutions of President Donald J. Trump and his co-defendants,” Chairman Jim Jordan wrote in the letter accompanying the subpoena two weeks ago. “Due to your service as Special Counsel, the Committee believes that you possess information that is vital to its oversight of this matter.”
Peter Koski, an attorney representing Smith, said the former special counsel will comply with the subpoena.
Ahead of Smith’s scheduled testimony, House Democrats have sought to compel the release of a classified version of his final report on the investigation. Trump’s legal team has filed court motions seeking to block the report’s release, said the outlet.
Smith may have believed he was untouchable when he led the Biden administration’s high-profile legal campaign against Donald Trump, but a group of Republican lawmakers has made it clear that his alleged misconduct won’t go unanswered.
Sen. Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, joined by a coalition of Republican senators and one congressman, sent a formal letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi in October referring Smith to the Department of Justice’s Office of Professional Responsibility and two state bar associations for investigation.
The letter accuses the former special counsel of serious professional misconduct that could warrant disbarment, The New York Post reported.
“As part of Jack Smith’s weaponized witch hunt, the Biden DOJ issued subpoenas to several telecommunications companies in 2023 regarding our cell phone records, gaining access to the time, recipient, duration, and location of calls placed on our devices from January 4, 2021, to January 7, 2021,” the letter read.
“We have yet to learn of any legal predicate for the Biden Department of Justice issuing subpoenas to obtain these cell phone records,” the letter added.

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