FBI Agents that raided Mar-a- Lago are under investigation by John Durham.

[Smokin' OP]

As I was saying:

Trump CANNOT officially declassify ANYTHING by himself.
Nor can ANY president.

 

[Delldude]

Doesn't state that you can take these documents out of the government building in which, they were received.
"access is essential to the accomplishment of official government duties'.
NOT physical possession.

One of the classification rules for VP's in performance of executive duties.

That wasn't your most recent claim:

WTF?
A senator cannot possess classified information...............period.
They can be briefed about it, and review it through a SCIF

According to this, you are incorrect:

5 CFR § 1312.23 - Access to classified information.​

 

[Delldude]

Trump CANNOT officially declassify ANYTHING by himself.
Nor can ANY president.

So He gets His aides to deal with the necessities. That's what aides do.
Prove He did or didn't do this.

 

[Smokin' OP]

One of the classification rules for VP's in performance of executive duties.

That wasn't your most recent claim:

According to this, you are incorrect:

5 CFR § 1312.23 - Access to classified information.​

ACCESS, dumbass,
NOT, physical possession.

 

[Smokin' OP]

So He gets His aides to deal with the necessities. That's what aides do.
Prove He did or didn't do this.

Aides don't do classified......ANYTHING.

 

[Cellblock2429]

- Inflation is high the world over. Biden took action and brought the US inflation rate down in an orderly manner, without putting the economy into a recession, which is a remarkable feat. Not that you'll ackowledge it.

- The History Border Crisis was declared a National Emergency by Donald Trump in February of 2019. Trump created this emergency. Then Trump left the mess to Biden and Republicans immediately blamed Biden for Trump's mess.

- Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal was nowhere nearly as deadly or chaotic as Nixon's withdrawal from Viet Nam, and Nixon didn't get ANYONE out of Viet Nam. Biden managed to get 150,000 Afghans and Americans OUT of Afganistan before the Americans withdrew, which no other leader in world history has managed to achieve.

- You blame BIDEN for Putin's invasion of the Ukraine??? After Trump told Zelensky to "make a deal with Putin" and withheld aid to the Ukraine??? After Trump fractured the NATO alliance and called the rest of your Allies "deadbeats" who were "taking advantage of the USA".

- Deadly Crime Crisis: This "crisis" built throughout the Donald Trump Presidency and Dumb Donald did NOTHING about it. 2020 was the deadliest year in US history in crime related deaths. Who was President in 2020?

What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.

More Americans died of gun-related injuries in 2021 than in any other year on record, according to the latest available statistics from the CDC.

www.pewresearch.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/14/2021-gun-violence/

Trump left all of these messes for Biden to clean up, and you blame Biden for creating Trump's messes.

You must think the rest of us are as gullible and stupid are you clearly are.

/-----/ "Biden took action and brought the US inflation rate down in an orderly manner, without putting the economy into a recession,"
So, President Trump appointed Jerome Powell Fed Chair in 2017 who aggressively raised interest rates to curb inflation has nothing to do with it? It was all Dementia Joe's doing? What exactly did Biden do to roll back the inflation he caused?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

He was the Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for years. That’s what he was doing with them.

Impressive. A man with experience as President. America made the correct decision in 2020

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Doesn't make the 'problem' go away. He still had no reason to take said classified documents. He stole them.

really? Tell it to the Judge

 

[Dante Reawakened]

You are, again, totally misinformed.
Then you should be able to prove He did not declassify them.
Then you should be able to prove He obstructed justice.
The you should be able to prove He wasn't allowed to take them.

Waiting.....

actually, the DOJ is doing this in the courts -- you know, the places Trumpland keeps getting laughed out of?

 

[Billo_Really]

Now it all makes sense.
These same corrupt Feds were part of the Russia Hoax and Spy Gate.

CITIZEN FREE PRESS

The Greatest News Site On The Internet. Home of CFP Nation.

citizenfreepress.com

This guy Durham hasn't found shit on anyone!

 

[Delldude]

ACCESS, dumbass,
NOT, physical possession.

Now your confirming Biden had no business possessing those documents at his home?

Aides don't do classified......ANYTHING.

Aides can be delegated and have security clearances to do so.

 

[Delldude]

actually, the DOJ is doing this in the courts -- you know, the places Trumpland keeps getting laughed out of?

Basically where that post was headed.
So you're saying Trump will have the last laugh over the Mar-A-Lago publicity event?

 

[Smokin' OP]

Now your confirming Biden had no business possessing those documents at his home?

Correct.

Aides can be delegated and have security clearances to do so.

NO, they can't.

 

[Delldude]

Correct.

NO, they can't.

Anyone can be delegated by the president. When something is classified or declassified, who handles the paperwork then?
Trump gave someone security clearance, maybe Kushner...the left wigged out IIRC.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Anyone can be delegated by the president. When something is classified or declassified, who handles the paperwork then?

Handling a folder doesn't mean they can look at the contents.

Trump gave someone security clearance, maybe Kushner...the left wigged out IIRC.

Kushner was a senior advisor to Trump.
Senior Advisor to the President is a title used by high-ranking political advisors to the president of the United States. White House senior advisors are senior members of the White House Office.

 

[Delldude]

Handling a folder doesn't mean they can look at the contents.

Kushner was a senior advisor to Trump.
Senior Advisor to the President is a title used by high-ranking political advisors to the president of the United States. White House senior advisors are senior members of the White House Office.

Yes and the left wigged when he got a clearance.

WASHINGTON — Jared Kushner's application for a top-secret clearance was rejected by two career White House security specialists after an FBI background check raised concerns about potential foreign influence on him — but their supervisor overruled the recommendation and approved the clearance, two sources familiar with the matter told NBC News.

Anyone can be delegated by the president.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Yes and the left wigged when he got a clearance.

WASHINGTON — Jared Kushner's application for a top-secret clearance was rejected by two career White House security specialists after an FBI background check raised concerns about potential foreign influence on him — but their supervisor overruled the recommendation and approved the clearance, two sources familiar with the matter told NBC News.

Only, because, of course, Kushner lied.
Then was rewarded.
According to the documents, the individual was denied security clearance initially by career officials before being overruled by Carl Kline, who headed the White House’s personnel security office at the time.

April 2 2019
A career official in the White House security office says dozens of people in President Donald Trump’s administration were granted security clearances despite “disqualifying issues” in their backgrounds, including concerns about foreign influence, drug use and criminal conduct.

Tricia Newbold, an 18-year government employee who oversaw the issuance of clearances for some senior White House aides, says she compiled a list of at least 25 officials who were initially denied security clearances last year but then had those denials overruled by senior administration officials.

Kushner failed to initially disclose numerous foreign meetings on security clearance forms, and, according to the Times, career officials recommended against granting him a clearance before Trump personally overruled them.

 

[wamose]

The thread is about a Durham investigation. His reputation and credibility are certainly relevent to the discussion. Durham is little more than a yapping puppy whose only purpose seems to be attacking trump's enemies. No doubt he will investigate the next incident that makes trump uncomfortable as well.

That's funny because I look at Durham as a DOJ coverup artist. He hasn't found anything meaningful yet.

 

[BULLDOG]

T

That's funny because I look at Durham as a DOJ coverup artist. He hasn't found anything meaningful yet.

That's because the only thing Durham found was wrongdoing by trump. Barr prevented that information from becoming public.

Senate Judiciary mulls action amid fallout from Durham probe

Editor’s note: This story has been updated to correct the status of special counsel John Durham’s appointment. The Senate Judiciary Committee is pledging to review the actions of special coun…

thehill.com

 

[Delldude]

Only, because, of course, Kushner lied.
Then was rewarded.
According to the documents, the individual was denied security clearance initially by career officials before being overruled by Carl Kline, who headed the White House’s personnel security office at the time.

April 2 2019
A career official in the White House security office says dozens of people in President Donald Trump’s administration were granted security clearances despite “disqualifying issues” in their backgrounds, including concerns about foreign influence, drug use and criminal conduct.

Tricia Newbold, an 18-year government employee who oversaw the issuance of clearances for some senior White House aides, says she compiled a list of at least 25 officials who were initially denied security clearances last year but then had those denials overruled by senior administration officials.

Kushner failed to initially disclose numerous foreign meetings on security clearance forms, and, according to the Times, career officials recommended against granting him a clearance before Trump personally overruled them.

So you are acknowledging my previous assertion that the president has absolute authority regarding security clearances.