Favorite PC Game

There are converters, but they don't allow natural mouse movement. The movement is relegated to a fixed speed, based on how fast you swipe the mouse. It's not natural at all. It's the same as using the gamepad joystick. You don't get anywhere near the control you're seeking when you're used to kb/mouse.

And I can understand why consoles won't give us that functionality. First off, the obvious advantage goes to kb/mouse over controller. But more importantly, the console is intended for the TV in the family room. And it's hard to control a mouse and keyboard on your lap sitting on the couch. The environment is just not usually suited for kb/mouse. Unless they invent a "breakfast table" that can lean and bend as necessary, and hold your mouse and keyboard even when you let go. And I think there are some things like that out there. But the developers still have to write the code into the games to allow natural mouse movement. Once they do, invest heavily in manufacturers that provide a "console-ready kb/mouse with flexible moving USB table:. That will be every gamer's dream!
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That is pretty cool. Who manufactures that and how much does it cost?

Playstations have been m/kb compatible for some time. I actually use a mouse and keyboard to play War Thunder on my PS4. War Thunder is great example of the superiority of m/kb over controller. It's just not possible to feather a joystick with the precision of a mouse. My Razer Naga and Deathadder work great with the PS4 too. The keyboard sits next to me while the I keep the mouse on one of those portable , flexible, writing trays that look like the trays used to serve meals in bed. The top is made of the same material as a mouse pad and the bottom is elastic so it forms to your legs and has some "give". I tried to find a picture of it on the Web but I don't remember where I got from and a quick search didn't turn anything up.
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I just downloaded an old dos game revamped for up to windows 7. It only cost three pounds from Amazon.
Its called '7th guest' and it is a puzzle solving game in a haunted house complete with animated ghosts.

7th guest from way back in the 90s I think, I remember playing that with my sister and brother in law. Great fun. Myst was also one of the best games out back then. My brother in law and I would play a lot of LinkLS golf on pc and one day while at Newegg Software, when it was actually a building that you walked in to, my sister picked out Myst. We played that thing nonstop for hours on end.
 
Been playing ' the 7th guest', and its well worth downloading from Amazon for a mere £3. The graphics are amazing for the age of the game, but then it has been updated to run on windows 7.
 
new Witcher has a good rating. I wish i had better hardware on my PC...
 
However interest to games istn't tied closely to their perfomance. There are still many unplayed games among those that made in 90s or early 2000s and are truly outstanding.
 
However interest to games istn't tied closely to their perfomance. There are still many unplayed games among those that made in 90s or early 2000s and are truly outstanding.

Yea, I have been looking at my old games to see if they are worth playing, but stuff like the original quake seem dull by modern standards. I am enjoying ' the seventh guest ' though. But it is a puzzle solving game not a shooter. The graphics are remarkable good for an old dos game. But I downloaded the updated version that runs on windows 7. I also resurrected an old computer that runs windows 98 for the purpose of trying out my old games.
 
However interest to games istn't tied closely to their perfomance. There are still many unplayed games among those that made in 90s or early 2000s and are truly outstanding.

Yea, I have been looking at my old games to see if they are worth playing, but stuff like the original quake seem dull by modern standards. I am enjoying ' the seventh guest ' though. But it is a puzzle solving game not a shooter. The graphics are remarkable good for an old dos game. But I downloaded the updated version that runs on windows 7. I also resurrected an old computer that runs windows 98 for the purpose of trying out my old games.
You can use virtual machine for that purposes, i suppose. Also for very old agmes there are emulational applications like dosbox.

Among old materpieces i like the most Fallout 2. Also like Thief, Full Throttle, Grim Fandango, Civilization, C&C serie and so on! Each of them is great.
 
However interest to games istn't tied closely to their perfomance. There are still many unplayed games among those that made in 90s or early 2000s and are truly outstanding.

Yea, I have been looking at my old games to see if they are worth playing, but stuff like the original quake seem dull by modern standards. I am enjoying ' the seventh guest ' though. But it is a puzzle solving game not a shooter. The graphics are remarkable good for an old dos game. But I downloaded the updated version that runs on windows 7. I also resurrected an old computer that runs windows 98 for the purpose of trying out my old games.
You can use virtual machine for that purposes, i suppose. Also for very old agmes there are emulational applications like dosbox.

Among old materpieces i like the most Fallout 2. Also like Thief, Full Throttle, Grim Fandango, Civilization, C&C serie and so on! Each of them is great.

Grim fandango, Thanks for reminding me of that game. I have a copy somewhere and I will see if it runs on my windows 98 computer. I just tried out quake 2 and after five minutes of playing I uninstalled it. The graphics are cheezy and the game play dull. I could not possibly want to play it after playing games like 'Wolfenstein the old blood' . The old games are mostly not as good as I remember them, and they are just too stupid by modern game standards.
 
However interest to games istn't tied closely to their perfomance. There are still many unplayed games among those that made in 90s or early 2000s and are truly outstanding.

Yea, I have been looking at my old games to see if they are worth playing, but stuff like the original quake seem dull by modern standards. I am enjoying ' the seventh guest ' though. But it is a puzzle solving game not a shooter. The graphics are remarkable good for an old dos game. But I downloaded the updated version that runs on windows 7. I also resurrected an old computer that runs windows 98 for the purpose of trying out my old games.
You can use virtual machine for that purposes, i suppose. Also for very old agmes there are emulational applications like dosbox.

Among old materpieces i like the most Fallout 2. Also like Thief, Full Throttle, Grim Fandango, Civilization, C&C serie and so on! Each of them is great.

Grim fandango, Thanks for reminding me of that game. I have a copy somewhere and I will see if it runs on my windows 98 computer. I just tried out quake 2 and after five minutes of playing I uninstalled it. The graphics are cheezy and the game play dull. I could not possibly want to play it after playing games like 'Wolfenstein the old blood' . The old games are mostly not as good as I remember them, and they are just too stupid by modern game standards.

Graphics-wise I agree. Everything has its shelf-life. The gameplay may be stellar, even by today's standards, but you can't get past old graphics when today's graphics are nearing real world perfection.

One of the best games on pc was a game called Stars! A space colonizing conquest type game. The graphics are very outdated but the gameplay is still top notch because the A.I. has to live by the exact same rules as the human player. In most games the A.I. is given super-human abilities because they can't code great A.I. (Getting better now obviously).

The 2013 version of Tomb Raider is eons past its predecessors graphics-wise. It is stunning to look at and still hard to believe games have gotten to the point they can render near reality in real time at 30 FPS.

Wonder what it will be like in five years.
 
I just started playing ' grim fandango' and it is as good as I remember it. The graphics are quite good.
 
. I wish i had better hardware on my PC...

You and me both, and I had mine built to my specks last year. But it is already obsolete.
Always a challenge. I build them myself as it is far cheaper. I can usually get a good 5 years out of a machine I build for around 1200 bucks.

For me, the experience is so superior to consoles that it is absolutely worth it.
 
However interest to games istn't tied closely to their perfomance. There are still many unplayed games among those that made in 90s or early 2000s and are truly outstanding.

Yea, I have been looking at my old games to see if they are worth playing, but stuff like the original quake seem dull by modern standards. I am enjoying ' the seventh guest ' though. But it is a puzzle solving game not a shooter. The graphics are remarkable good for an old dos game. But I downloaded the updated version that runs on windows 7. I also resurrected an old computer that runs windows 98 for the purpose of trying out my old games.
God I remember 7th guest. Was a good game in its time. I recently booted up alien legacy (pre-CD ROM game) and World of XEEN. Man I remember those games being the best ever. Was quite disappointed. Trying to get Betrayal at Krodor working. If you have the time - that is one of the BEST story driven games I have ever played. Was based on a full novel - very intricate story line.

Steam has kept me rather busy though - have a dozen games on there I have still not even opened up. To many games going for almost nothing - couldn't pass up the chance to get em. I still want to get back to Planetside 2 as well - best shooter ever created bar none.
 
. I wish i had better hardware on my PC...

You and me both, and I had mine built to my specks last year. But it is already obsolete.
Always a challenge. I build them myself as it is far cheaper. I can usually get a good 5 years out of a machine I build for around 1200 bucks.

For me, the experience is so superior to consoles that it is absolutely worth it.

I always used to build my own computers. In fact I am a qualified microprocessor engineer. But there have been so many changes in computer parts that I have been left behind. So I had my last computer built for me. It was only sixty pounds labour charges. I have an intel 3.2 gig processor and 8 gig of ram, and a 1 gigabyte asus video card. But I find that these are not even the minimum specs required for Doom 4, which comes out next spring.
 
. I wish i had better hardware on my PC...

You and me both, and I had mine built to my specks last year. But it is already obsolete.
Always a challenge. I build them myself as it is far cheaper. I can usually get a good 5 years out of a machine I build for around 1200 bucks.

For me, the experience is so superior to consoles that it is absolutely worth it.

I do the same. Research the 8 major components, figure out the best value for the price range you are willing to spend, including the upgradability, and order through newegg or tigerdirect. Its easy to build a computer these days, just various components to plug in.
 
. I wish i had better hardware on my PC...

You and me both, and I had mine built to my specks last year. But it is already obsolete.
Always a challenge. I build them myself as it is far cheaper. I can usually get a good 5 years out of a machine I build for around 1200 bucks.

For me, the experience is so superior to consoles that it is absolutely worth it.

I always used to build my own computers. In fact I am a qualified microprocessor engineer. But there have been so many changes in computer parts that I have been left behind. So I had my last computer built for me. It was only sixty pounds labour charges. I have an intel 3.2 gig processor and 8 gig of ram, and a 1 gigabyte asus video card. But I find that these are not even the minimum specs required for Doom 4, which comes out next spring.
Integrated graphics?

Computer parts have changed a lot in the last several years. It is no longer a case of simply buying the component with the larger numbers/clock speed. I know when I started I read a lot from Toms Hardware and they have a system builders marathon where they have teams put together the best computer they can in a given price point and benchmark them afterword. Really interesting and gave me a good starting point.

. I wish i had better hardware on my PC...

You and me both, and I had mine built to my specks last year. But it is already obsolete.
Always a challenge. I build them myself as it is far cheaper. I can usually get a good 5 years out of a machine I build for around 1200 bucks.

For me, the experience is so superior to consoles that it is absolutely worth it.

I do the same. Research the 8 major components, figure out the best value for the price range you are willing to spend, including the upgradability, and order through newegg or tigerdirect. Its easy to build a computer these days, just various components to plug in.
For the most part. Just have to put a little work into what components are the best in the given price points. There is just so much information out there these days.
 
If the game gives you precise movement capability with your mouse, then I wanna get that game! Is it precise, or just mimicking a controller based on how fast your slide the mouse?

I like that table too! But it's still too far forward for a console environment. :) you wanna be leaning back on that couch and firing away in a console environment. Otherwise we would stick with pc's. We need something less obtrusive, like a breakfast table type thing, that maybe comes from behind the couch, and holds your kb and mouse wherever you want it to be?

That's the key! BEHIND the couch! No obstructions in front! Flexible snake arms to hold your kb on one side, and mouse on the other, and wireless connection to console. Wow.... That's the way to roll! First person to do it, is a bizzilionairre! If they can get the FPS programmers on consoles to support free-movement mouse.
 
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