Why can't you discuss this issue without hyperbole?
Ruby Ridge was a screw up. Waco was a screw up.
However, in both cases, a catastrophe was prompted when American citizens refused to obey the law. If the government has a warrant, they are coming in. You don't just get to tell them to **** off. That's the way the law works and has always worked, no matter how much you guys want to make it seem like this is some sort of fascist state.
Well in my observations over the years i have noticed a real disdain for fellow American Citizens by Democratic Attorney Generals. Their victims are always fellow Americans. This latest 'Fast & Furious' debacle is just another example of this disturbing pattern. I mean who do they think is the enemy? It looks like they think fellow American Citizens are the enemy. But i see it the other away around. I think it's Holder & Reno who are the real enemies of this Nation. They really are downright deadly.
Disdain? What, do you have coffee with them in the morning? If you are going to play politics, why just limit it to Democrats? What about Al Gonzalez's little warrant-less wiretapping of American citizens? Hmmmm?
As for "Fast and Furious". It looks like a sting operation gone bad.
I have yet to see anyone realistically show me how this was intended to target law abiding gun owners.
There’s a lot of reason to believe FAF was something other than a poorly orchestrated law enforcement operation. ATF agent John Dodson, who participated in the operation, told congress, “"I cannot begin to think of how the risk of letting guns fall into the hands of known criminals could possibly advance any legitimate law enforcement interest." Dodson and other ATF field agents were commanded to allow straw purchasers to buy high powered weapons at gun shops and then let them walk away untracked. From the gun shop owners they had the gun's serial numbers, and the plan was to wait for police to recover the weapons at Mexican crime scenes so as to establish a connection to Mexican drug cartels and prosecute them for arms trafficking. Huh? Prosecute drug lords for illegal arms dealing as what, an add on charge to extortion, organized drug trafficking and mass murder? The congressional oversight committee report mockingly stated, "Unfortunately, ATF never achieved the laudable goal of dismantling a drug cartel. In fact, ATF never got close."
The big wigs at DOJ and ATF knew full well that allowing weaponry to flow to Mexico would result in carnage. In fact, that was part of the plan. According to the congressional report, some agents said they "knew that given the large numbers of weapons being trafficked to Mexico (related to the operation), tragic results were a near certainty." In point of fact, crime statistics clearly highlighted the deadly conclusion to many of the guns that were being shipped to Mexico. One of the supervisors of the operation, the recently promoted David Voth, advised the U.S. attorney “Our subjects purchased 359 firearms during the month of March alone, to include numerous Barrett .50 caliber rifles”. Voth further advised that March 2010 was deadliest month in five years in Mexico and also yielded some of the largest movement of weapons from Fast and Furious. Agent Dodson, the agent who blew the whistle on the operation, observed that his supervisors were “elated every time a gun was recovered in Mexico”.
Now the interesting question is what was the real end game of the patently flawed Fast and Furious.
One can imagine Obama holding a press conference. He begins “Today, in conjunction with my good colleagues in the house and senate, I am proposing legislation to fundamentally overhaul our nation’s gun regulation laws. Over the past year we have seen an alarming upsurge in violent crime across the border by ruthless drug cartels who threaten to undermine the security of Mexico. Unfortunately, the recent crime wave has its origins here in this country. Thousands of weapons recovered at Mexican crime scenes have been discovered to have been illegally purchased in the United States and trafficked across the border. This illegal flow of guns is straining our relations with the Mexican government, and is unnecessarily leading to the deaths of innocent civilians. The problem has reached crisis proportions, and requires decisive action.
Accordingly, I am calling upon congress to swiftly pass legislation that will require all gun owners to register their weapons with the BATF and to notify the agency when they have a change of address. It’s the only way we can keep track of these weapons and insure they are not falling into the wrong hands. Additionally, I am proposing restrictions on the number of firearms a household may be permitted to own to a limit of 2 handguns and 2 rifles. The recent violence we have seen bears witness to the need for greater exercise of federal control over gun ownership as a way of avoiding pointless and preventable deaths.”
With their accomplices in the MSM, the administation might have pulled it off but for the whistle being blown, and now they are busy shredding documents, scrubbing files, and promoting people who should be fired.
