Fascism Is as Fascism Does

[bripat9643]

Do you agree with the other poster's claim that anyone who is not a conservative is a tick on the ass of society?

No one ever said that. However, ticks on the ass of society are almost always liberal. They make up the vast bulk of the Democrat party

You did.

Conservatives do not and will not ever run this country. The sooner you get used to that, the sooner you can begin your journey back in the direction of common sense.

No, I didn't say that.

I'm well aware that conservatives do not run the country. What have I said that indicates I believe otherwise?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Okay, so we all agree that the extremely popular Social Security is the number one item on FDR's legacy.

What would you say is next down the list?

Anyone?

 

[bripat9643]

The fascist Roosevelt's number one most significant action was the creation of Social Security,

and Social Security today has overwhelming support from the American People.

Is Social Security fascist? Are the American people fascist for supporting it in numbers that swamp any crackpot conservative plans for ending it?

Yes. Fascism has always been popular with the vast mass of numskulls who are allowed to vote.

So again, you reject the idea of democratic government and would prefer some sort of authoritarian systerm that would somehow deny the right to vote to most Americans.

I don't doubt that a great number of conservatives would at least secretly agree with you.

Yes, I reject democracy. However, that doesn't mean I endorse some replacement for it. Society would be better off if it abolished government altogether.

 

[bripat9643]

Okay, so we all agree that the extremely popular Social Security is the number one item on FDR's legacy.

What would you say is next down the list?

Anyone?

Nobody cares, asshole. The popularity of FDR's legacy isn't being discussed. Go start another thread if you want to talk about that.

 

[Discombobulated]

Rely on Goldberg? Goldberg's work is just one of the dozens written about the Progressive Era, you dope! Goldberg's observations are nothing new.

No you're wrong again, there are no legitimate historians who would support Goldberg's view.....just a lot of dummies on the internet.

In other words, you refuse to read anything that doesn't agree with your biases. The facts of the progressive era are well documented, and even your government propagandists don't dispute them. It's simple a fact that the head of the NRA was an ardent admirer of Mussolini, as was FDR before Mussolini invaded Ethiopia.

No, you and Goldberg are both wrong. There is no legitimate historic evidence of any kind to support any of your pop culture revisionist history.

 

[bripat9643]

Only because you people cannot name ONE SINGLE ENDURING COMPONENT OF THE FDR LEGACY that most Americans object to.

That is why you always lose, RWnuts. Because Progress always wins, sooner or later.

Again, whether Americans support FDR's legacy isn't being discussed. Furthermore, plenty of Americans object to the program of farm subsidies he created. Aside from that, he Securities and Exchange Commission, the FDIC and Social Security it has all been repealed.

Why is this thread in politics then if it's just some sort of rant on a historical topic?

Is that because the author of the thread is too fucking dimwitted to know where threads are supposed to be posted?

There's a history forum.

The politics of yesteryear obviously have an impact on the politics of today, numb nuts.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No you're wrong again, there are no legitimate historians who would support Goldberg's view.....just a lot of dummies on the internet.

"....legitimate historians...."

He means Leftist suck-ups who toe the party line.



Those 'legitimate historians' mouth FDR's excuses for the catastrophe of his economic policies, supporting lies that it was the previous Republican Presidents who were the provenance of the recession that he turned into the great depression.

Unfortunate that you don't know the difference between legitimate historic scholarship and politically inspired internet nonsense.

One thing I recognize at a glance is the squealing of the stuck-pigs when the truth about Franklin Roosevelt and his 'historians' comes to the fore.


"legitimate historic scholarship " can be found in my posts, indicated by the fact that you 'stuck-pigs' do nothing but post 'is not, is not.'

 

[Discombobulated]

Yes. Fascism has always been popular with the vast mass of numskulls who are allowed to vote.

So again, you reject the idea of democratic government and would prefer some sort of authoritarian systerm that would somehow deny the right to vote to most Americans.

I don't doubt that a great number of conservatives would at least secretly agree with you.

Yes, I reject democracy. However, that doesn't mean I endorse some replacement for it. Society would be better off if it abolished government altogether.

And I thought you'd already made your most ridiculous remarks.

 

[Discombobulated]

"....legitimate historians...."

He means Leftist suck-ups who toe the party line.



Those 'legitimate historians' mouth FDR's excuses for the catastrophe of his economic policies, supporting lies that it was the previous Republican Presidents who were the provenance of the recession that he turned into the great depression.

Unfortunate that you don't know the difference between legitimate historic scholarship and politically inspired internet nonsense.

One thing I recognize at a glance is the squealing of the stuck-pigs when the truth about Franklin Roosevelt and his 'historians' comes to the fore.


"legitimate historic scholarship " can be found in my posts, indicated by the fact that you 'stuck-pigs' do nothing but post 'is not, is not.'

There are no legitimate historians anywhere who would ever take your childishly superficial interpretations of history seriously.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Rely on Goldberg? Goldberg's work is just one of the dozens written about the Progressive Era, you dope! Goldberg's observations are nothing new.

No you're wrong again, there are no legitimate historians who would support Goldberg's view.....just a lot of dummies on the internet.

Liberal Dictionary:
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Legitimate Historian - propagandist on the government payroll

"The only possible explanation is the mentality- actually, the psychosis- of historians, journalists, and other opinion makers that makes them impervious, and even hostile, to facts. Even more so to the ineluctable implications of these facts, which are devastating to the conventional wisdom and venerated mythology.

And this is the ultimate impact of Communist influence, the Communist conspiracy that Roosevelt and Truman laughed off: it is the complete subversion of logic itself. It is so simple, so irrational, yet it has happened: the complete separation of fact from implication. There is a name for the gaps between fact and implication, between implication and judgment....it is called "political correctness."
Diana West, "American Betrayal," p. 81.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Again, whether Americans support FDR's legacy isn't being discussed. Furthermore, plenty of Americans object to the program of farm subsidies he created. Aside from that, he Securities and Exchange Commission, the FDIC and Social Security it has all been repealed.

Why is this thread in politics then if it's just some sort of rant on a historical topic?

Is that because the author of the thread is too fucking dimwitted to know where threads are supposed to be posted?

There's a history forum.

The politics of yesteryear obviously have an impact on the politics of today, numb nuts.

Which is exactly what I'm talking about when I bring up FDR's legacy that you keep saying is off topic.

So again, what TODAY remains of the FDR legacy that most Americans reject????

 

[PoliticalChic]

The fascist Roosevelt's number one most significant action was the creation of Social Security,

and Social Security today has overwhelming support from the American People.

Is Social Security fascist? Are the American people fascist for supporting it in numbers that swamp any crackpot conservative plans for ending it?

Well....gotta hand it to ya'.....he did make the trains run on time...and folks loved that.


Oh....wait.....that was the other fascist.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Okay, so we all agree that the extremely popular Social Security is the number one item on FDR's legacy.

What would you say is next down the list?

Anyone?

Nobody cares, asshole. The popularity of FDR's legacy isn't being discussed. Go start another thread if you want to talk about that.

You just said that this thread belongs in politics not history because the politics of the past are reflected in the politics of today.

Make up your fucking mind, or whatever it is that passes for a mind in that vast wasteland between your ears.

 

[Discombobulated]

No you're wrong again, there are no legitimate historians who would support Goldberg's view.....just a lot of dummies on the internet.

Liberal Dictionary:
================================================
Legitimate Historian - propagandist on the government payroll

"The only possible explanation is the mentality- actually, the psychosis- of historians, journalists, and other opinion makers that makes them impervious, and even hostile, to facts. Even more so to the ineluctable implications of these facts, which are devastating to the conventional wisdom and venerated mythology.

And this is the ultimate impact of Communist influence, the Communist conspiracy that Roosevelt and Truman laughed off: it is the complete subversion of logic itself. It is so simple, so irrational, yet it has happened: the complete separation of fact from implication. There is a name for the gaps between fact and implication, between implication and judgment....it is called "political correctness."
Diana West, "American Betrayal," p. 81.

I guess some people just prefer historians who have blogs instead of publishers.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I asked what are the components of FDR's legacy that most Americans today object to?

So far no one has been able to name ONE.

Whether Americans support them isn't being discussed, numskull.

Only because you people cannot name ONE SINGLE ENDURING COMPONENT OF THE FDR LEGACY that most Americans object to.

That is why you always lose, RWnuts. Because Progress always wins, sooner or later.

So, in your estimation, popularity is the way to judge what is good and what is not?


Hmmmmm.......



On March 12, 1938, Hitler’s troops rolled over the border from Germany, into Austria. This was the Anschluss, the annexation of Austria into Greater Germany. Three days later, Hitler entered Vienna, greeted by an enthusiastic crowd of up to one million people. A plebiscite was held in less than a month, and 99.7% of Austrians voted to join the Third Reich.



So....the Third Reich was good?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Only because you people cannot name ONE SINGLE ENDURING COMPONENT OF THE FDR LEGACY that most Americans object to.

That is why you always lose, RWnuts. Because Progress always wins, sooner or later.

Again, whether Americans support FDR's legacy isn't being discussed. Furthermore, plenty of Americans object to the program of farm subsidies he created. Aside from that, he Securities and Exchange Commission, the FDIC and Social Security it has all been repealed.

Why is this thread in politics then if it's just some sort of rant on a historical topic?

Is that because the author of the thread is too fucking dimwitted to know where threads are supposed to be posted?

There's a history forum.

One more white flag from the dunce.


And.....another permutation of the Liberal doctrine: silence or marginalize any opposing voices.

 

[Discombobulated]

Whether Americans support them isn't being discussed, numskull.

Only because you people cannot name ONE SINGLE ENDURING COMPONENT OF THE FDR LEGACY that most Americans object to.

That is why you always lose, RWnuts. Because Progress always wins, sooner or later.

So, in your estimation, popularity is the way to judge what is good and what is not?


Hmmmmm.......



On March 12, 1938, Hitler’s troops rolled over the border from Germany, into Austria. This was the Anschluss, the annexation of Austria into Greater Germany. Three days later, Hitler entered Vienna, greeted by an enthusiastic crowd of up to one million people. A plebiscite was held in less than a month, and 99.7% of Austrians voted to join the Third Reich.



So....the Third Reich was good?

More completely irrelevant comparisons.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liberal Dictionary:
================================================
Legitimate Historian - propagandist on the government payroll

"The only possible explanation is the mentality- actually, the psychosis- of historians, journalists, and other opinion makers that makes them impervious, and even hostile, to facts. Even more so to the ineluctable implications of these facts, which are devastating to the conventional wisdom and venerated mythology.

And this is the ultimate impact of Communist influence, the Communist conspiracy that Roosevelt and Truman laughed off: it is the complete subversion of logic itself. It is so simple, so irrational, yet it has happened: the complete separation of fact from implication. There is a name for the gaps between fact and implication, between implication and judgment....it is called "political correctness."
Diana West, "American Betrayal," p. 81.

I guess some people just prefer historians who have blogs instead of publishers.

What was that? Did you just mumble 'is not, is not'?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Only because you people cannot name ONE SINGLE ENDURING COMPONENT OF THE FDR LEGACY that most Americans object to.

That is why you always lose, RWnuts. Because Progress always wins, sooner or later.

So, in your estimation, popularity is the way to judge what is good and what is not?


Hmmmmm.......



On March 12, 1938, Hitler’s troops rolled over the border from Germany, into Austria. This was the Anschluss, the annexation of Austria into Greater Germany. Three days later, Hitler entered Vienna, greeted by an enthusiastic crowd of up to one million people. A plebiscite was held in less than a month, and 99.7% of Austrians voted to join the Third Reich.



So....the Third Reich was good?

More completely irrelevant comparisons.

I heard that....'is not, is not....waaaaaaaa....'

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Why would I make the effort to read a rightwing idiot like Jonah Goldberg when I can read rightwing idiocy here all day? Are you saying that the rightwingers here are so inferior to an imbecile like Goldberg that you people aren't capable of articulating what he does?

Exactly! You asked why FDR was a proponent of national socialism. You asked for specifics with regard to his policies. You were given that information, detailed, comprehensive information to read and think about for yourself. You were also given further reading and a promise for more.

Response: you attack the man and move the goalpost, as if we weren't talking about the well-established, objectively demonstrable history of the pre-WWII Progressive Era.

And so folks like PC and I verbally slap you silly-ass ignoramuses around. You don't read or think about anything that doesn't jell with the revisionism of cultural Marxism.

Take the blinders off, and stop pretending that you don't get the ramifications of this history.

Don't understand? I don't need Goldberg, you do. He didn't write his work for folks like me. He wrote it for folks like you, the historically illiterate hayseeds of cultural Marxism, the drones of popular culture. Hayek's work, beginning with the historical roots of fascism and communism from the Enlightenment, addresses this period of history and it's aftermath even more comprehensively. I've been reading and writing about America's Progressive Era, from Teddy Roosevelt to FDR, especially, for decades . . . years before Goldberg published his work.

Can't articulate? The helpful links at the bottom of my post in the above were provided that you might know the difference between the classical liberalism of this nation's founding and the neo-/post-liberalism of that Era. Those pieces are written by me.

I'm steeped in the theological and philosophical works of Western civilization, in the history of ideas and events from the classical era to the post-modern era, and in the formative history of the ancients.

Who the hell are you?

You have no idea how woefully ignorant and irrational you are.

Are you saying that you're a brainwashed, hear-no-evil cultist incapable of articulating an argument refuting the history of Hegel and Rousseau's sociopolitical legacy in Europe and America?

Let me help you: yes, that's what you're saying.

I asked what are the components of FDR's legacy that most Americans today object to?

So far no one has been able to name ONE.

You're a liar. The following is what you wrote, and the following is what I responded to:

And what, precisely and specifically, did Roosevelt do that qualifies as uniquely fascist under any sane definition of fascism, and that was uniquely an FDR policy?

And you can take your disingenuous qualifier sane and shove it up your. . . .