Fascism in Texas

IM2 said:
Texas Republicans have decided that Democrats must agree to be followed around by a police officer 24/7, or they cannot leave the Capitol.

Try telling me this isn't fascism. And watch the excuses, whataboutisms, and false equivalences flow.

Texas Democrat locked inside Capitol after refusing to sign slip for mandatory escort​


Democratic state Rep. Nicole Collier from Fort Worth returned to the Texas Capitol on Monday but says she remains locked inside the Capitol because she wouldn't sign a permission slip to be under escort by the Texas Department of Public Safety.

The escorts for all House Democrats who left the state of Texas last month — preventing a vote on a GOP-led redistricting effort — are meant as a guarantee that they will return to the House by 10 a.m. Wednesday for the next special session.
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CBS News Texas spoke with Collier via Zoom on Monday, and she said the situation is wrong — just like the new Congressional maps she and other Democrats have tried to block from being passed. She also said that, according to DPS, she must stay in the House chambers or inside her office at the Capitol.

CBS News Texas has reached out to DPS for comment.

In a statement, the Texas House Democratic Caucus said the police escorts were the "latest Republican tactic to monitor and control Democratic lawmakers following their successful quorum break."

Collier and dozens of other House Democrats who returned to the Capitol on Monday received a Texas-sized welcome from their supporters as they walked from the rotunda into the House chamber minutes before the House session began around noon.

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When you act like a child, you get treated like a child.
 
candycorn said:
A better idea would be this:

Use the census data like the way the Post Office does. They divide the people up by ZIP codes and staffing levels are then dictated by how many residents are in a particular zip code. 10036 (Manhattan) will have more letter carriers than 79928 (El Paso).

Except in the census, you also have other demographics. One such use is income. Income often means wealth. The wants and desires of the wealthy are often different than those of us who are not as wealthy. When you're wealthy...you worry about smooth streets and parks... when you're less wealthy you worry more about public schools and health clinics.

Anyway, take the number of districts in your state--for the ease of math lets say there is 10--then divide the population up by 10 using nothing but income. The "lines" we currently have will disappear and be replaced by ZIP codes and whatever lines the post office has drawn. Again, the post office draws the lines using nothing but population data...no preference is given to whether the mail recipient is black, white, Hispanic, rich, poor, male, female, etc... It will vary by state but put your highest earners--state wide--into Group A. The next highest earners in Group B. All the way to Group J. The key is to make the income bands so wide that you end up with roughly the same amount of people in each group.

So you have a population of lets say 5,000,000 divided into 10 groups of 500,000 more or less. Then you simply start assigning ZIP codes to each district via lottery. District 1 gets a ZIP code out of group A, the next one goes to group B, then the next one to C, etc... until they are all gone. Then you start with group B. What you end up with is 10 districts that have roughly the same amount of people in them but you're no longer drawing districts...the ZIP codes have done that for you.

The end result is that each elected official ends up with a mix of rich and poor which, I think most people would agree, is the primary dividing criteria that drives everything else. You get rid of "safe" seats since the demographics of any district are a completely random event. Thus you have more responsive politicians who really have to worry about re-election.
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stop counting illegals first. Okay?
 
candycorn said:
A better idea would be this:

Use the census data like the way the Post Office does. They divide the people up by ZIP codes and staffing levels are then dictated by how many residents are in a particular zip code. 10036 (Manhattan) will have more letter carriers than 79928 (El Paso).

Except in the census, you also have other demographics. One such use is income. Income often means wealth. The wants and desires of the wealthy are often different than those of us who are not as wealthy. When you're wealthy...you worry about smooth streets and parks... when you're less wealthy you worry more about public schools and health clinics.

Anyway, take the number of districts in your state--for the ease of math lets say there is 10--then divide the population up by 10 using nothing but income. The "lines" we currently have will disappear and be replaced by ZIP codes and whatever lines the post office has drawn. Again, the post office draws the lines using nothing but population data...no preference is given to whether the mail recipient is black, white, Hispanic, rich, poor, male, female, etc... It will vary by state but put your highest earners--state wide--into Group A. The next highest earners in Group B. All the way to Group J. The key is to make the income bands so wide that you end up with roughly the same amount of people in each group.

So you have a population of lets say 5,000,000 divided into 10 groups of 500,000 more or less. Then you simply start assigning ZIP codes to each district via lottery. District 1 gets a ZIP code out of group A, the next one goes to group B, then the next one to C, etc... until they are all gone. Then you start with group B. What you end up with is 10 districts that have roughly the same amount of people in them but you're no longer drawing districts...the ZIP codes have done that for you.

The end result is that each elected official ends up with a mix of rich and poor which, I think most people would agree, is the primary dividing criteria that drives everything else. You get rid of "safe" seats since the demographics of any district are a completely random event. Thus you have more responsive politicians who really have to worry about re-election.
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To a certain extent, I agree with that. I have a different idea though that would be easier to implement but would accomplish a similar effect.

Get rid of districting altogether. Implement ranked choice voting with a pool of various candidates. Take NC, for example. This state has 14 House seats, so you'd have a long list of candidates that would run to fill one of those seats. Let's say 50 candidates ran for the collective 14 seats. Each voter gets to pick 14 people, and the top 14 candidates with the most votes would end up each filling a seat. If you wanted to make it extra interesting, you could require the election to be non-partisan, so that people would have to look up what each candidate supports. Either way, this collective approach without districts would make it more feasible for third party candidates or alternative perspectives to enter office.

Money would still play a part (as it always does), but it would be much harder for special interests to buy up all the candidates or determine who has the best chance of entering office.
 
IM2 said:
Texas Republicans have decided that Democrats must agree to be followed around by a police officer 24/7, or they cannot leave the Capitol.

Try telling me this isn't fascism. And watch the excuses, whataboutisms, and false equivalences flow.

Texas Democrat locked inside Capitol after refusing to sign slip for mandatory escort​


Democratic state Rep. Nicole Collier from Fort Worth returned to the Texas Capitol on Monday but says she remains locked inside the Capitol because she wouldn't sign a permission slip to be under escort by the Texas Department of Public Safety.

The escorts for all House Democrats who left the state of Texas last month — preventing a vote on a GOP-led redistricting effort — are meant as a guarantee that they will return to the House by 10 a.m. Wednesday for the next special session.
call to action icon

CBS News Texas spoke with Collier via Zoom on Monday, and she said the situation is wrong — just like the new Congressional maps she and other Democrats have tried to block from being passed. She also said that, according to DPS, she must stay in the House chambers or inside her office at the Capitol.

CBS News Texas has reached out to DPS for comment.

In a statement, the Texas House Democratic Caucus said the police escorts were the "latest Republican tactic to monitor and control Democratic lawmakers following their successful quorum break."

Collier and dozens of other House Democrats who returned to the Capitol on Monday received a Texas-sized welcome from their supporters as they walked from the rotunda into the House chamber minutes before the House session began around noon.

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Well, apparently they have to have an escort...they dont know where they are going. If we leave them unsupervised, they'll wander off to other states.

This measure is for their protection!
 
ThisIsMe said:
Well, apparently they have to have an escort...they dont know where they are going. If we leave them unsupervised, they'll wander off to other states.

This measure is for their protection!
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No, it's fascism. And it seems as though you support it.
 
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IM2 said:
Texas Republicans have decided that Democrats must agree to be followed around by a police officer 24/7, or they cannot leave the Capitol.

Try telling me this isn't fascism. And watch the excuses, whataboutisms, and false equivalences flow.

Texas Democrat locked inside Capitol after refusing to sign slip for mandatory escort​


Democratic state Rep. Nicole Collier from Fort Worth returned to the Texas Capitol on Monday but says she remains locked inside the Capitol because she wouldn't sign a permission slip to be under escort by the Texas Department of Public Safety.

The escorts for all House Democrats who left the state of Texas last month — preventing a vote on a GOP-led redistricting effort — are meant as a guarantee that they will return to the House by 10 a.m. Wednesday for the next special session.
call to action icon

CBS News Texas spoke with Collier via Zoom on Monday, and she said the situation is wrong — just like the new Congressional maps she and other Democrats have tried to block from being passed. She also said that, according to DPS, she must stay in the House chambers or inside her office at the Capitol.

CBS News Texas has reached out to DPS for comment.

In a statement, the Texas House Democratic Caucus said the police escorts were the "latest Republican tactic to monitor and control Democratic lawmakers following their successful quorum break."

Collier and dozens of other House Democrats who returned to the Capitol on Monday received a Texas-sized welcome from their supporters as they walked from the rotunda into the House chamber minutes before the House session began around noon.

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