Far Right? Proud Boys

[Care4all]

Racists tend to be far right.

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Wrong again. Liberals are the most racist people in the world.

Fyi...
At the time of the kkk, the Democrats were the conservatives, the party of Lincoln... republicans, were the liberals.

Parties, did a reversal, since then...

 

[Correll]

Nationalism is a blight. It's appealing to small people who need to hook up with something bigger than themselves to feel significant. No matter how empty and worthless you are, you are part of great nation! Yeah, sure buddy.

Your position on that is noted.


Are you claiming that nationalism, by itself, is proof of being Far Right?

 

[The Purge]

The Portland police are USELESS ....DemonRAT interference at its best.

Looks like we are in full retreat while getting the James Fields treatment.

 

[Jitss617]

If democrats believed in diversity they wouldn’t label everyone

 

[Correll]

Your smugness is blinding you.

I do enjoy irony.
.

Not nearly as much as I do.

Mac, I fully expect the Proud Boys to DRIFT right in the wake of their founder resigning, and their people being arrested and jailed. That is HOW TO RADICALIZE someone.


So, I am fully open to the possibility that it has already happened or is happening as we speak.


Your assumption otherwise, is just you being wrong.

 

[Marion Morrison]

LMAO!

Just because the SPLC says, doesn't make it so.

Have you ever looked at the evidence the SPLC has for saying it? No. I'm sure you haven't.

Anyone believing anything the splc claims is a gullible fool. You are probably their leader.

What ****? Who are you talking about?

Wait, how come everyone can type **** and when I do, it gets starred out?
What is going on here?

Old ladies are not supposed to talk like that...LOL!

I was simply quoting. This is weird, no?

Were you calling mike a dick?

Hmm..no.

 

[jknowgood]

Racists tend to be far right.

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Wrong again. Liberals are the most racist people in the world.

Fyi...
At the time of the kkk, the Democrats were the conservatives, the party of Lincoln... republicans, were the liberals.

Parties, did a reversal, since then...

Nice try. You are the party of hate. You keep minorities uneducated and on welfare all for a vote. You ruined the black family unit all for a vote and if one turns on you and gets successful on his own and quits thinking the way you want him to. He becomes an uncle Tom. Like I said, nice try.

 

[Correll]

Jut an opinion..don't care all that much. My life experience with dumb-asses that spout ideology in pursuit of license is all I can fall back on. Well...let me not be disingenuous....there is a whole body of psychology that supports my position..but I'm way too lazy to trot it out...for folks that don't care.

I stand by what i said..don't like it..drop your funny and move along...LOL!

If you care enough to participate in my thread, I would expect some participation.


The op did not ask for OPINION, but actual supporting evidence.

Rules? Your thread..LOL. If you wish that sort of discussion..I suggest the structured debate forum..if you dare. Perhaps..you might support your case?? If you have one..and are not just seeking someone to knock down in your transparently obvious attempt to legitimize the Proud Boys and troll the 'Leftys".

I give a shit as to your 'expectations'

My case is a question as to what supposedly makes the Proud Boys, "far right".


So far, the majority of the response has been, because people like us say so.


There have been TWO real attempts at this, and I am following up with those posters.

Proud Boys forbid and exclude female membership and are hence, opposed to diversity, a far-right concept and position.

So do the Masons, moron.

And the Lakers.

 

[Camp]

Ok, so I keep hearing the confrontation in Portland described as being between far right and at best, far left counter demonstrators, if not "anti-fascist".


So, a call out to everyone who supports the idea that the Proud Boys are far right.


So, what about their message, or operations or organization, is far right.


Please, no moronic walls of text, especially on what other people think about them.



Give me your BEST example, concisely for discussion purposes, of them being far right.

The term 'Far Right' is apocryphal.
There is no Far Right in this country. It is a useful term to hide the evil of what does exist: a Far Left.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left




1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?

2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.


Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,


LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.

5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..


6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.


A radical and Progressive position.


He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."


7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...


Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.


8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,

"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.


Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???


Oh...wait....he did build concentration camps for innocent civilians....his own citizens.


9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"


Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???


Could there?



10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.

A clear affront to the honor bestowed on the press by the first amendment.





And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

If you cannot......there is no "Far Right."

The definitions of "far-right and far-left" are subjective opinions. As usual, you try and make a point that your subjective opinion is the only accurate opinion and everyone who has a different opinion is wrong. Your long-winded explanations only show how you came to your opinion and is not an objective analysis.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

If you cannot......there is no "Far Right."



You can't....hence you've proven my premise.

Dismissed.

Congressional Representative Steve King is an example of a far righr-wing politician.

I didn't ask who you don't like....I was very clear.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

If you cannot......there is no "Far Right."



You can't....hence you've proven my premise.



Either answer the question, or admit I've smashed yet another custard pie in your ugly kisser.

Right-wing and left-wing are again, subjective opinions. Denying equal rights to selected demographics such as women is a far-right concept. Makes no difference how many examples I provide, you will say na-uh and reject them.

 

[dblack]

Nationalism is a blight. It's appealing to small people who need to hook up with something bigger than themselves to feel significant. No matter how empty and worthless you are, you are part of great nation! Yeah, sure buddy.

Your position on that is noted.


Are you claiming that nationalism, by itself, is proof of being Far Right?

I have no idea what you mean by "Far Right". Hell, I get accused of it every day.

I'm just pointing out why nationalism is so appealing to insecure people. It gives them a sense of significance, and the false hope that their pathetic lot will improve by being part of group. Pretty standard identity politics really.

 

[Marion Morrison]

The Portland police are USELESS ....DemonRAT interference at its best.

Looks like we are in full retreat while getting the James Fields treatment.

Well, there's a lot of those Antifags, popo can't be everywhere. I saw them kicking Antifa ass yesterday.

Throwing flashbangs and making arrests.

Really the governor of Oregon should be impeached for not calling out the National Guard and taking the leash off.

Antifa needs some Kent State type love.

 

[Correll]

Racists tend to be far right.

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Wrong again. Liberals are the most racist people in the world.

Fyi...
At the time of the kkk, the Democrats were the conservatives, the party of Lincoln... republicans, were the liberals.

Parties, did a reversal, since then...

No, they did not. That is a lie told by liars.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ok, so I keep hearing the confrontation in Portland described as being between far right and at best, far left counter demonstrators, if not "anti-fascist".


So, a call out to everyone who supports the idea that the Proud Boys are far right.


So, what about their message, or operations or organization, is far right.


Please, no moronic walls of text, especially on what other people think about them.



Give me your BEST example, concisely for discussion purposes, of them being far right.

The term 'Far Right' is apocryphal.
There is no Far Right in this country. It is a useful term to hide the evil of what does exist: a Far Left.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left




1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?

2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.


Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,


LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.

5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..


6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.


A radical and Progressive position.


He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."


7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...


Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.


8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,

"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.


Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???


Oh...wait....he did build concentration camps for innocent civilians....his own citizens.


9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"


Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???


Could there?



10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.

A clear affront to the honor bestowed on the press by the first amendment.





And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

If you cannot......there is no "Far Right."

The definitions of "far-right and far-left" are subjective opinions. As usual, you try and make a point that your subjective opinion is the only accurate opinion and everyone who has a different opinion is wrong. Your long-winded explanations only show how you came to your opinion and is not an objective analysis.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

If you cannot......there is no "Far Right."



You can't....hence you've proven my premise.

Dismissed.

HALIFAX — Until this week, few Canadians had heard of the Proud Boys. That changed on Canada Day, when five young men in matching black polo shirts disrupted an Aboriginal ceremony in Halifax.

That brief, 10-minute confrontation has put the military career of each man in doubt — and it has shone a spotlight on a retrograde group that sprung up last year amid the rise of Donald Trump and the many in-your-face, far-right groups that support him.

Will Sommer, a journalist in Washington, D.C., who has followed the small movement, said the group was founded in the U.S. by Gavin McInnes, a Canadian who helped establish Vice Media and is now an outspoken political pundit with an internet talk show and regular stints on Fox News and Canada’s Rebel Media website. (Vice severed ties with McInnes in 2008.)

Proud Boys: ‘Willing to go places and disrupt things’
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They are alt right.

Do you have any original thoughts or do you just follow whatever the media or internet tell you?

I read and then form my opinions, how do you form your opinions? From the air?

I've never met anyone as well-read as I am,...

....well, maybe one....

....and whenever you'd care to compare educational resumes, be sure to let me know.

The term 'Far Right' is apocryphal.
There is no Far Right in this country. It is a useful term to hide the evil of what does exist: a Far Left.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left




1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?

2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.


Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,


LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.

5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..


6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.


A radical and Progressive position.


He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."


7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...


Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.


8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,

"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.


Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???


Oh...wait....he did build concentration camps for innocent civilians....his own citizens.


9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"


Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???


Could there?



10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.

A clear affront to the honor bestowed on the press by the first amendment.





And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

If you cannot......there is no "Far Right."

The definitions of "far-right and far-left" are subjective opinions. As usual, you try and make a point that your subjective opinion is the only accurate opinion and everyone who has a different opinion is wrong. Your long-winded explanations only show how you came to your opinion and is not an objective analysis.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

If you cannot......there is no "Far Right."



You can't....hence you've proven my premise.

Dismissed.

Congressional Representative Steve King is an example of a far righr-wing politician.

I didn't ask who you don't like....I was very clear.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

If you cannot......there is no "Far Right."



You can't....hence you've proven my premise.



Either answer the question, or admit I've smashed yet another custard pie in your ugly kisser.

Right-wing and left-wing are again, subjective opinions. Denying equal rights to selected demographics such as women is a far-right concept. Makes no difference how many examples I provide, you will say na-uh and reject them.

How deftly I force you to put your foot in your mouth.

"Denying equal rights to selected demographics such as women is a far-right concept. "

It was Republicans who forced Democrats to give women the right to vote, you dunce.


1. It was a Republican who introduced what became the 19th Amendment, women’s suffrage. On May 21, 1919, U.S. Representative James R. Mann (1856-1922), a Republican from Illinois and chairman of the Suffrage Committee, proposed the House resolution to approve the Susan Anthony Amendment granting women the right to vote. The measure passed the House 304-89—a full 42 votes above the required two-thirds majority. http://www.history.com/topics/19th-amendment

2. The 1919 vote in the House of Representatives was possible because Republicans had retaken control of the House. Attempts to get it passed through Democrat-controlled Congresses had failed.

3. The Senate vote was approved only after a Democrat filibuster; and 82% of the Republican Senators voted for it….and 54% of the Democrats.

4. 26 of the 36 states that ratified the 19th Amendment had Republican legislatures.

5. Two weeks later, on June 4, 1919, the Senate passed the 19th Amendment by two votes over its two-thirds required majority, 56-25. The amendment was then sent to the states for ratification. Within six days of the ratification cycle, Illinois, Michigan and Wisconsin each ratified the amendment. Kansas, New York and Ohio followed on June 16, 1919. By March of the following year, a total of 35 states had approved the amendment, one state shy of the two-thirds required for ratification. Southern states were adamantly opposed to the amendment, however, and seven of them—Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, South Carolina and Virginia—had already rejected it before Tennessee's vote on August 18, 1920. It was up to Tennessee to tip the scale for woman suffrage. Op. Cit.

6. The outlook appeared bleak, given the outcomes in other Southern states and given the position of Tennessee's state legislators in their 48-48 tie. The state's decision came down to 23-year-old Representative Harry T. Burn (1895-1977), a Republican from McMinn County, to cast the deciding vote. Although Burn opposed the amendment, his mother convinced him to approve it. (Mrs. Burn reportedly wrote to her son: "Don't forget to be a good boy and help Mrs. Catt put the 'rat' in ratification.") With Burn's vote, the 19th Amendment was ratified. Certification by U.S. Secretary of State Bainbridge Colby (1869-1950) followed on August 26, 1920. Op. Cit.

7. The National Women's Party led by Alice Paul became the first "cause" to picket outside the White House. Paul and Lucy Burns led a series of protests against the Wilson Administration in Washington. Wilson ignored the protests for six months, but on June 20, 1917, as a Russian delegation drove up to the White House, suffragettes unfurled a banner which stated; "We women of America tell you that America is not a democracy. Twenty million women are denied the right to vote. President Wilson is the chief opponent of their national enfranchisement".[24] Another banner on August 14, 1917, referred to "Kaiser Wilson" and compared the plight of the German people with that of American women. With this manner of protest, the women were subject to arrests and many were jailed.[25] On October 17, Alice Paul was sentenced to seven months and on October 30 began a hunger strike, but after a few days prison authorities began to force feed her.[24] After years of opposition, Wilson changed his position in 1918 to advocate women's suffrage as a war measure.[26] Women's suffrage in the United States - Wikipedia 24. ^ a b James Ciment, Thaddeus Russell (2007). "The home front encyclopedia: United States, Britain, and Canada in World Wars I and II, Volume 1". p.163. ABC-CLIO, 2007

25. ^ Stevens et al., Jailed for Freedom: American Women Win the Vote, NewSage Press (March 21, 1995).

26. ^ Lemons, J. Stanley (1973). "The woman citizen: social feminism in the 1920s" p.13. University of Virginia Press, 1973

a. During the 1912 presidential campaign against Theodore Roosevelt, Wilson and his opponent agreed on many reform measures such as child-labor laws and pro-union legislation. They differed, however, on the subject of women's suffrage, as Roosevelt was in favor of giving women the vote. http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/president-woodrow-wilson-picketed-by-women-suffragists



Republicans led the fight for women’s rights, and most suffragists were Republicans. In fact, Susan B. Anthony bragged about how, after voting (illegally) in 1872, she had voted a straight Republican ticket. The suffragists included two African-American women who were also co-founders of the NAACP: Ida Wells and Mary Terrell, great Republicans, both of them.

Republican Senator Aaron Sargent wrote the women’s suffrage amendment in 1878,though it would not be passed by Congress until Republicans again won control of both houses 40 years later. It was in 1916 that the first woman was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives, Republican Jeannette Rankin. The first woman mayor was elected in 1926, the Honorable Bertha Landes of Seattle, another great Republican.

http://www.everythingiknowiswrong.com/2005/02/history_of_the_.html




Both Woodrow Wilson and William Howard Taft are opposed to federal women's suffrage. And then going into 1915, it finally gets on the ballot and the referendum in New York State and TR campaigns for it. It is defeated. In 1917 it's again on the ballot and this time it's passed. And so TR helps bring it in until there are enough states to go, to amend the Constitution. Woodrow Wilson gets on the bandwagon at the last minute and, in fact, Congress gets on it at the last minute because there are -- that's the important point -- there are very few males in politics who favor the women's issue. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/presidents/26_t_roosevelt/filmmore/ra_jgabwomen.html




There is no Far Right in this nation....only an evil Far Left.

 

[miketx]

Proud Boys - Wikipedia

need I say no more.

If you want to make your case, then you have to say SOMETHING.


A link is to support a point you make. Not be it.


All you did there was state that you are present, and that you hate them.

did you read the link, I think not.

HALIFAX — Until this week, few Canadians had heard of the Proud Boys. That changed on Canada Day, when five young men in matching black polo shirts disrupted an Aboriginal ceremony in Halifax.

That brief, 10-minute confrontation has put the military career of each man in doubt — and it has shone a spotlight on a retrograde group that sprung up last year amid the rise of Donald Trump and the many in-your-face, far-right groups that support him.

Will Sommer, a journalist in Washington, D.C., who has followed the small movement, said the group was founded in the U.S. by Gavin McInnes, a Canadian who helped establish Vice Media and is now an outspoken political pundit with an internet talk show and regular stints on Fox News and Canada’s Rebel Media website. (Vice severed ties with McInnes in 2008.)

Proud Boys: ‘Willing to go places and disrupt things’
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They are alt right.

You left out this part:

HALIFAX — Until this week, few Canadians had heard of the Proud Boys. That changed on Canada Day, when five young men in matching black polo shirts disrupted an Aboriginal ceremony in Halifax.

That brief, 10-minute confrontation has put the military career of each man in doubt — and it has shone a spotlight on a retrograde group that sprung up last year amid the rise of Donald Trump and the many in-your-face, far-right groups that support him.

Will Sommer, a journalist in Washington, D.C., who has followed the small movement, said the group was founded in the U.S. by Gavin McInnes, a Canadian who helped establish Vice Media and is now an outspoken political pundit with an internet talk show and regular stints on Fox News and Canada’s Rebel Media website. (Vice severed ties with McInnes in 2008.)

Proud Boys: ‘Willing to go places and disrupt things’
---------------------------------------------------

They are alt right.

You left out this part:

"He suggested that the Aboriginal mourning ceremony was actually an “anti-Canada Day celebration,” which among other things included two people holding up an upside down Canadian flag with the word “decolonize” written on it."

Ofc the PC SJW Canadians will be all

Canada is full of the descendants of people that couldn't hack being American.

ople holding up an upside down Canadian flag with the word “decolonize” written on it."

Ofc the PC SJW Canadians will be all

Canada is full of the descendants of people that couldn't hack being American.

And they had no right to protest those people, but they are emboldened since the tramp presidency.

And it was none of their business:

But I also omitted this tidbit:

The Proud Boys’ libertarian code also includes: advocating for the closure of all prisons; giving everyone a gun; legalizing drugs; ending welfare; closing the borders to immigrants; outlawing censorship; glorifying entrepreneurs; recognizing “the West is the best;” and “shutting down the government.”

I will admit that closing all prisons and legalizing drugs and shutting down government does seem somewhat radical. Got a link to support that claim?

The second one I gave. You asked for supporting evidence, I gave it to you.

A biased link is only proof to addle minded fools such as you.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

I give a shit as to your 'expectations'

You could provide 10,000 examples and none would be "good enough".

That's just a given on these kinds of threads.
.

Penelope claimed that the Proud Boys support closing all prisons, legalizing drugs and shutting down the government.


I have admitted that if she can post a link to support that, that that would be "Far right".


Your smugness is blinding you.

Racists tend to be far right.

View attachment 274891
Wrong again. Liberals are the most racist people in the world.

Fyi...
At the time of the kkk, the Democrats were the conservatives, the party of Lincoln... republicans, were the liberals.

Parties, did a reversal, since then...

No, they did not. That is a lie told by liars.

LOL...nope..it is the truth known and accepted by everyone except idiots with an agenda. I'll not bother, once again, posting the relevant history..as it would make no difference to you.

 

[Jitss617]

Racists tend to be far right.

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Wrong again. Liberals are the most racist people in the world.

Fyi...
At the time of the kkk, the Democrats were the conservatives, the party of Lincoln... republicans, were the liberals.

Parties, did a reversal, since then...

Lol WHAT!! The parties have never changed blacks have been complaining about democrat
Oppression since we had slaves..

 

[deanrd]

Racists tend to be far right.

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Wrong again. Liberals are the most racist people in the world.

I’m curious, what did you think of the Republicans marching through Charlottesville carrying torches and screaming “Jews will not replace us“?

 

[Jitss617]

Racists tend to be far right.

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Wrong again. Liberals are the most racist people in the world.

I’m curious, what did you think of the Republicans marching through Charlottesville carrying torches and screaming “Jews will not replace us“?

Free speech different people, diversity, just like mainstream rap music.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Racists tend to be far right.

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Wrong again. Liberals are the most racist people in the world.

I’m curious, what did you think of the Republicans marching through Charlottesville carrying torches and screaming “Jews will not replace us“?

How do you know the party affiliations?

I know the party of this guy...

"D.C. lawmaker who said Jews control the weather "
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-lawmaker-who-said-jews-control-the-weather-visits-holocaust-museum/2018/04/19/0b69ddde-4329-11e8-8569-26fda6b404c7_story.html?noredirect=on

 

[Dana7360]

Ok, so I keep hearing the confrontation in Portland described as being between far right and at best, far left counter demonstrators, if not "anti-fascist".


So, a call out to everyone who supports the idea that the Proud Boys are far right.


So, what about their message, or operations or organization, is far right.


Please, no moronic walls of text, especially on what other people think about them.



Give me your BEST example, concisely for discussion purposes, of them being far right.

What's wrong with being anti fascist?

One of my uncles was killed by fascists in Germany during WW II. So I guess my opinion about fascists isn't the same as yours.

Seems you don't have any problems with fascists even though we fought against them in WW II and they killed thousands of Americans.

These "proud boys" are fascists and far right radical extremists.

Just like you.