Falling in cold water and dying ??

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If you fall into cold water ( say 40 F) ..you are in big trouble.
You must get out of water within 5-10 min
Then you must strip off all cloths immediately or you will go into shock and coma . Dry off

Yet you can easily survive colder air ??

why Is that ??

You have to understand that water is over a thousand times denser than air
This means far more molecules are making contact with your body and sucking off heat
This is why you even get shock jumping into a swimming pool
The molecules in both colder air and water are taking heat out of your body
In water , it is death
 

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If you fall into cold water ( say 40 F) ..you are in big trouble.
You must get out of water within 5-10 min
Then you must strip off all cloths immediately or you will go into shock and coma . Dry off

Yet you can easily survive colder air ??

why Is that ??

You have to understand that water is over a thousand times denser than air
This means far more molecules are making contact with your body and sucking off heat
This is why you even get shock jumping into a swimming pool
The molecules in both colder air and water are taking heat out of your body
In water , it is death
No, that can't be right!

The AGW loons tell us that atmospheric CO2 is warming the oceans. Something is terribly wrong. How can it be dense?
 
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If you fall into cold water ( say 40 F) ..you are in big trouble.
You must get out of water within 5-10 min
Then you must strip off all cloths immediately or you will go into shock and coma . Dry off

Yet you can easily survive colder air ??

why Is that ??

You have to understand that water is over a thousand times denser than air
This means far more molecules are making contact with your body and sucking off heat
This is why you even get shock jumping into a swimming pool
The molecules in both colder air and water are taking heat out of your body
In water , it is death
No, that can't be right!

The AGW loons tell us that atmospheric CO2 is warming the oceans. Something is terribly wrong. How can it be dense?
Compared to air
 

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Then why is it when I get in a hot tub I don’t burn to death? Lol Your post makes sense. I don’t know I ever thought about the explanation you laid out but seems simple enough.
 
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If you fall into cold water ( say 40 F) ..you are in big trouble.
You must get out of water within 5-10 min
Then you must strip off all cloths immediately or you will go into shock and coma . Dry off

Yet you can easily survive colder air ??

why Is that ??

You have to understand that water is over a thousand times denser than air
This means far more molecules are making contact with your body and sucking off heat
This is why you even get shock jumping into a swimming pool
The molecules in both colder air and water are taking heat out of your body
In water , it is death
No, that can't be right!

The AGW loons tell us that atmospheric CO2 is warming the oceans. Something is terribly wrong. How can it be dense?
Compared to air
So it takes more energy to warm because its denser, right
 
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If you fall into cold water ( say 40 F) ..you are in big trouble.
You must get out of water within 5-10 min
Then you must strip off all cloths immediately or you will go into shock and coma . Dry off

Yet you can easily survive colder air ??

why Is that ??

You have to understand that water is over a thousand times denser than air
This means far more molecules are making contact with your body and sucking off heat
This is why you even get shock jumping into a swimming pool
The molecules in both colder air and water are taking heat out of your body
In water , it is death
No, that can't be right!

The AGW loons tell us that atmospheric CO2 is warming the oceans. Something is terribly wrong. How can it be dense?
Compared to air
So it takes more energy to warm because its denser, right
Yes !! You have to excite and vibrate a far larger amount of molecules and atoms
 

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If you fall into cold water ( say 40 F) ..you are in big trouble.
You must get out of water within 5-10 min
Then you must strip off all cloths immediately or you will go into shock and coma . Dry off

Yet you can easily survive colder air ??

why Is that ??

You have to understand that water is over a thousand times denser than air
This means far more molecules are making contact with your body and sucking off heat
This is why you even get shock jumping into a swimming pool
The molecules in both colder air and water are taking heat out of your body
In water , it is death
it's not shock it hypothermia.

Water around the freezing point will rob the body of heat rapidly and once the body's core drops below 95 degrees the symptoms start

 

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If you fall into cold water ( say 40 F) ..you are in big trouble.
You must get out of water within 5-10 min
Then you must strip off all cloths immediately or you will go into shock and coma . Dry off

Yet you can easily survive colder air ??

why Is that ??

You have to understand that water is over a thousand times denser than air
This means far more molecules are making contact with your body and sucking off heat
This is why you even get shock jumping into a swimming pool
The molecules in both colder air and water are taking heat out of your body
In water , it is death
No, that can't be right!

The AGW loons tell us that atmospheric CO2 is warming the oceans. Something is terribly wrong. How can it be dense?
And still, another lemming who won't acknowledge the relationship between climate change and weather.
Just focus on the constant right wing drumbeat of "global warming". Y-A-W-N.

Shock occurs when the temperature difference between your body and the water is great enough that your body
(and usually your heart) can't handle the overload of trying to adjust to the new temperature. Hypothermia is a slow
killer that robs the body of heat. The colder the water, the faster the kill.
 
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If you fall into cold water ( say 40 F) ..you are in big trouble.
You must get out of water within 5-10 min
Then you must strip off all cloths immediately or you will go into shock and coma . Dry off

Yet you can easily survive colder air ??

why Is that ??

You have to understand that water is over a thousand times denser than air
This means far more molecules are making contact with your body and sucking off heat
This is why you even get shock jumping into a swimming pool
The molecules in both colder air and water are taking heat out of your body
In water , it is death
No, that can't be right!

The AGW loons tell us that atmospheric CO2 is warming the oceans. Something is terribly wrong. How can it be dense?
And still, another lemming who won't acknowledge the relationship between climate change and weather.
Just focus on the constant right wing drumbeat of "global warming". Y-A-W-N.

Shock occurs when the temperature difference between your body and the water is great enough that your body
(and usually your heart) can't handle the overload of trying to adjust to the new temperature. Hypothermia is a slow
killer that robs the body of heat. The colder the water, the faster the kill.
Can you explain the physics by which atmospheric CO2 generates the energy necessary to heat the deep ocean?

Thank you
 

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If you fall into cold water ( say 40 F) ..you are in big trouble.
You must get out of water within 5-10 min
Then you must strip off all cloths immediately or you will go into shock and coma . Dry off

Yet you can easily survive colder air ??

why Is that ??

You have to understand that water is over a thousand times denser than air
This means far more molecules are making contact with your body and sucking off heat
This is why you even get shock jumping into a swimming pool
The molecules in both colder air and water are taking heat out of your body
In water , it is death
No, that can't be right!

The AGW loons tell us that atmospheric CO2 is warming the oceans. Something is terribly wrong. How can it be dense?
And still, another lemming who won't acknowledge the relationship between climate change and weather.
Just focus on the constant right wing drumbeat of "global warming". Y-A-W-N.

Shock occurs when the temperature difference between your body and the water is great enough that your body
(and usually your heart) can't handle the overload of trying to adjust to the new temperature. Hypothermia is a slow
killer that robs the body of heat. The colder the water, the faster the kill.
Can you explain the physics by which atmospheric CO2 generates the energy necessary to heat the deep ocean?

Thank you
CO2 doesn't generate thermal energy.

The sun does and CO2 in the atmosphere slows down radiational cooling so the heat generated by the sun isn't removed from the atmosphere as quickly
 

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CO2 doesn't generate thermal energy.
He knows that. We all know that, brainless.

The sun does and CO2 in the atmosphere slows down radiational cooling so the heat generated by the sun isn't removed from the atmosphere as quickly
Just one set of specific conditions.

I like to know if you drive an electric car?
 
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I am not a scientist
I just keep it basic and I am into natural science phenomenons
 
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Co2 traps more heat
Only sun produces thermal heat
 

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CO2 doesn't generate thermal energy.
He knows that. We all know that, brainless.

The sun does and CO2 in the atmosphere slows down radiational cooling so the heat generated by the sun isn't removed from the atmosphere as quickly
Just one set of specific conditions.

I like to know if you drive an electric car?
What does what I drive matter?
If I was into global warming, then driving an electric car would mean I live what I believe in.
 

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CO2 doesn't generate thermal energy.
He knows that. We all know that, brainless.

The sun does and CO2 in the atmosphere slows down radiational cooling so the heat generated by the sun isn't removed from the atmosphere as quickly
Just one set of specific conditions.

I like to know if you drive an electric car?
What does what I drive matter?
If I was into global warming, then driving an electric car would mean I live what I believe in.
not necessarily.

An EV doesn't make sense for everyone and sometimes a used car that get 35 mpg can have less impact on the environment than a new EV.

Nothing is black and white in the real world.

And I do believe that we as a population have an effect on the environment it's kind of naive to say we don't. We've dumped so much toxic shit into the ground and the oceans that are affecting not only animal populations but also the health of people.

I don't know how much warming we will see of what the results will be. But seriously what is the downside of less pollution and less waste?

I have been a conservationist for most of my life and I don't have a problem with the idea of leaving my environment cleaner than when I got here.
 
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If you fall into cold water ( say 40 F) ..you are in big trouble.
You must get out of water within 5-10 min
Then you must strip off all cloths immediately or you will go into shock and coma . Dry off

Yet you can easily survive colder air ??

why Is that ??

You have to understand that water is over a thousand times denser than air
This means far more molecules are making contact with your body and sucking off heat
This is why you even get shock jumping into a swimming pool
The molecules in both colder air and water are taking heat out of your body
In water , it is death

I trained my molecules to do better than that.
 

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Can you explain the physics by which atmospheric CO2 generates the energy necessary to heat the deep ocean?
Thank you
It's a question of equilibrium ... heat will always travel from "hot" to "cold" ... the deep ocean is cold, the surface and atmosphere are hot ... energy will move down the water column ... albeit very slowly ...
 

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