FACT - The federal govt CANNOT by itself amend the federal constitution

[Dante]

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Okay genius name ONE piece of legislation that exists that was NOT passed by the Congress

Are you serious? There are countless examples. Bureaucrats and judges write laws all the time. I was recently given a warning and threatened with a fine for camping in an area the ranger said was closed to camping. There is no congressional law that said that. The National forest service just wrote the "law".

Home schooled: you appear to be confused about laws and legislation.

Oh well...

 

[JakeStarkey]

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Okay genius name ONE piece of legislation that exists that was NOT passed by the Congress

Are you serious? There are countless examples. Bureaucrats and judges write laws all the time. I was recently given a warning and threatened with a fine for camping in an area the ranger said was closed to camping. There is no congressional law that said that. The National forest service just wrote the "law".

The executive can write its own regulations and rules. which require no legislation from Congress.

Don't camp where you are not supposed to camp, podjo.

 

[JakeStarkey]

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Okay genius name ONE piece of legislation that exists that was NOT passed by the Congress

Are you serious? There are countless examples. Bureaucrats and judges write laws all the time. I was recently given a warning and threatened with a fine for camping in an area the ranger said was closed to camping. There is no congressional law that said that. The National forest service just wrote the "law".

Home schooled: you appear to be confused about laws and legislation.

Oh well...

SS does not understand the separation and powers of the branches.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

The founding fathers took states rights for granted and that's why when they wrote the constitution, they listed two ways of amending the constitution and in both ways the states have final vote on whether the proposed amendment passes.

The states can amend the constitution all by themselves, the feds cannot.

Duh, Article V

The only method ever used is the congressional method.

Hey einstein. Even the congressional method requires the vote of the states. And the convention method can by done without congress. THINK

 

[eagle1462010]

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Okay genius name ONE piece of legislation that exists that was NOT passed by the Congress

Are you serious? There are countless examples. Bureaucrats and judges write laws all the time. I was recently given a warning and threatened with a fine for camping in an area the ranger said was closed to camping. There is no congressional law that said that. The National forest service just wrote the "law".

Home schooled: you appear to be confused about laws and legislation.

Oh well...

One day people like us are going to have a serious disagreement.

 

[Dante]

For the lunatic fringe: A history lesson: Administrative law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Dante]

Are you serious? There are countless examples. Bureaucrats and judges write laws all the time. I was recently given a warning and threatened with a fine for camping in an area the ranger said was closed to camping. There is no congressional law that said that. The National forest service just wrote the "law".

Home schooled: you appear to be confused about laws and legislation.

Oh well...

One day people like us are going to have a serious disagreement.

Your reactionary dream world exists only in your warped mind

 

[ShootSpeeders]

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The executive can write its own regulations and rules. which require no legislation from Congress.

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The very first words of the constitution after the preamble are "all legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states.".

That settles it. Neither the courts nor the feds nor bureaucrats can write laws, though they do it all the time. THINK

 

[eagle1462010]

EPA To Unilaterally Push Cap And Trade On Carbon Emissions | The Daily Caller

Despite being soundly rejected a few years ago, cap-and-trade will soon get its U.S. encore — but not in Congress. The Obama administration will likely use its executive power to unilaterally impose carbon dioxide emissions trading systems.

The Environmental Protection Agency will unveil regulations for existing U.S. power plants early next month. For months, onlookers have been speculating about what could be included in the EPA’s rule for existing power plants.

But over the past few days it has become clear that the Obama administration will use the EPA to push cap-and-trade systems and other anti-fossil fuel policies on U.S. states. Administration insiders have told news outlets that cap-and-trade will likely be one of the options the EPA gives states to cut their carbon dioxide emissions.

Can't get it passed by Congress. Use an Executive order to do it anyway............via court rulings and old laws...................putting up job killing regs that hurt the poor the most as they pay more for energy.

But the libs will say this is ok, because it's their agenda. If you can't pass your agenda in Congress then it shouldn't be implemented period.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Are you serious? There are countless examples. Bureaucrats and judges write laws all the time. I was recently given a warning and threatened with a fine for camping in an area the ranger said was closed to camping. There is no congressional law that said that. The National forest service just wrote the "law".

Home schooled: you appear to be confused about laws and legislation.

Oh well...

One day people like us are going to have a serious disagreement.

. . . about how home schooling failed you, yes

 

[Contumacious]

We need a Constitutional Convention of the States. To put a leash on the Federal Government.

HUH?

Are you aware that 47 to 50% of the populace are parasites, dependent on federal government largesse?


A WELFARE STATE = GOVERNMENT BUY THE PEOPLE

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Damn blind, the elderly who paid into the system, and those damn veterans.

You are correct in stating that the elderly who were FORCED to pay into the system , under penalty of law, are not parasites.

Unfortunately , they are now compelled to vote for welfare state politicians because they are afraid that if the system is abolished they will be summarily deprived of their property,

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[Dante]

You first. Start with the Federalist papers. Maybe you'll get your head out of your ass.

The Federalist papers were written arguing in support of a STRONG federal government.

The anti federalists had arguments too.

Hamilton was one of the fiercest proponents of adoption of the USC even though it was more of a document to Madison's liking than his own.

The framers (not the founders) brooked compromise.

now take a hike back to your home school

Can't get back through all the BS you are spouting.

There intent was clear. And they warned us not to do the things we have done. Especially over the last 100 years.

Now get off your damn high horse and tell us how we are going to pay for 127 Trillion in unfunded liabilities you dumb ass.

This is how libs rule...........

Oh, you poor thing. You need a cell phone in case of emergency. So the Gov't gives poor people cell phones.

You rule on emotion and not reality. Telling the tax payers that you have decided for them to pay for Cell phones to their fellow citizens. To me this is a clear example of why we need to put a leash on the Federal Gov't. They are spending on shit that should never even have been brought up. And they are destroying the dollar and the standard of living in this country.

The national debt will be paid off far before predictions. It will only bankrupt us if nothing is done. No one is proposing doing nothing.

 

[eagle1462010]

Home schooled: you appear to be confused about laws and legislation.

Oh well...

One day people like us are going to have a serious disagreement.

. . . about how home schooling failed you, yes

Fakey speaks in defense of his liberal buds...........

Who want pure democracy and piss on the constitution all the time. So you harass and try to instill hate and discontent in this country as you always do.

Your days are numbered. Your power will be diminished as always. Liberals like Fakey are always their own worst enemies. And that will never change.

BTW Madison was considered a liberal. Liberal. Your side has gone so far off the reservation on that term that calling yourselves liberals is a lie.

 

[Dante]

You first. Start with the Federalist papers. Maybe you'll get your head out of your ass.

The Federalist papers were written arguing in support of a STRONG federal government.

The anti federalists had arguments too.

Hamilton was one of the fiercest proponents of adoption of the USC even though it was more of a document to Madison's liking than his own.

The framers (not the founders) brooked compromise.

now take a hike back to your home school

The "Federalist Papers" are pretty neat archives but they were intended to be illustrations and agendas based on revolutionary propaganda. Hamilton was a walking contradiction. He was a patriot who fought beside Washington but he also admired the British centralized government. He was a federalist but switched parties (and beliefs?) when he opposed Adam's bid for reelection. The framers and the founders created the greatest document in the world. The Constitution is the law of the land regardless of the low information left's sudden interest in revolutionary history.

Madison and Jefferson were walking and talking contradictions as were most men who were both practical and idealists.

The USC comes out of an old Germanic tradition that went to England with the Anglo Saxon invasions. It was an idea of the consent of the governed.

The Federalist arguments were not revolutionary propaganda, they were answers to the inherent weakness of the Confederation of States

 

[eagle1462010]

The Federalist papers were written arguing in support of a STRONG federal government.

The anti federalists had arguments too.

Hamilton was one of the fiercest proponents of adoption of the USC even though it was more of a document to Madison's liking than his own.

The framers (not the founders) brooked compromise.

now take a hike back to your home school

Can't get back through all the BS you are spouting.

There intent was clear. And they warned us not to do the things we have done. Especially over the last 100 years.

Now get off your damn high horse and tell us how we are going to pay for 127 Trillion in unfunded liabilities you dumb ass.

This is how libs rule...........

Oh, you poor thing. You need a cell phone in case of emergency. So the Gov't gives poor people cell phones.

You rule on emotion and not reality. Telling the tax payers that you have decided for them to pay for Cell phones to their fellow citizens. To me this is a clear example of why we need to put a leash on the Federal Gov't. They are spending on shit that should never even have been brought up. And they are destroying the dollar and the standard of living in this country.

The national debt will be paid off far before predictions. It will only bankrupt us if nothing is done. No one is proposing doing nothing.

BS..........

Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding

Interest on the debt outstanding will eventually be the highest bill to be paid out of all the Gov't. Your side pisses itself if someone mentions cutting any damn thing.

 

[Dante]

Excuse me dingle berry.

They can ONLY legislate over issues which have been SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED.

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Okay genius name ONE piece of legislation that exists that was NOT passed by the Congress

OMG, where oh where do I begin,

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

No. 03—1454
ALBERTO R. GONZALES, ATTORNEY GENERAL, et al., PETITIONERS v. ANGEL McCLARY RAICH et al.

For example, Justice Thomas was right in Raich to refuse to stretch the interstate commerce clause to find a power granted to Congress to regulate purely local growth and consumption of marijuana.

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there you go...unconstitutional acts of Congress are brought before the courts. Then the acts are dismissed and not enforced

okay

 

[Contumacious]

The states can only amend the Constitution with We the People's agreement.

The state is only the agent of the People.

SCOTUS has always had the right of judicial review IAW with Article 3.

Judicial review requires that the CONSTITUTION BE APPLIED AS WRITTEN and if the issue is not clear then AS INTENDED BY THE FOUNDING FATHERS.

So, where was the Congress SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED TO ENACT OBAMA HELLCARE?

Where did the Founding Fathers authorize the SENATE to originate bills raising revenue?

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[Dante]

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The executive can write its own regulations and rules. which require no legislation from Congress.

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The very first words of the constitution after the preamble are "all legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states.".

That settles it. Neither the courts nor the feds nor bureaucrats can write laws, though they do it all the time. THINK

Administrative rules and laws are NOT legislation


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[Contumacious]

Okay genius name ONE piece of legislation that exists that was NOT passed by the Congress

OMG, where oh where do I begin,

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

No. 03—1454
ALBERTO R. GONZALES, ATTORNEY GENERAL, et al., PETITIONERS v. ANGEL McCLARY RAICH et al.

For example, Justice Thomas was right in Raich to refuse to stretch the interstate commerce clause to find a power granted to Congress to regulate purely local growth and consumption of marijuana.

.

there you go...unconstitutional acts of Congress are brought before the courts. Then the acts are dismissed and not enforced

okay

Excuse me fucktard, but according to the AG he STILL has the authority to prevent Coloradans from growing , consuming and distributing marihuana WITHIN the state borders,

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[eagle1462010]

Who Needs Congress: Legislation by Regulatory Fiat