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1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????
 
1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????
Is there such a thing as too much freedom?
 
1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????

Mooslims be skeery
 
1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????
2.Islamic civilization
been there, and that is a oxymoron if there ever is one.
 
1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????
Is there such a thing as too much freedom?


Is this what you have in mind?


To embrace tolerance is to cease to believe in anything.

Chesterton
 
1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????
2.Islamic civilization
been there, and that is a oxymoron if there ever is one.



Actually, it is a well regulated and disciplined civilization, just the opposite, though, of Western.


I believe I will post a few threads on exactly what it is.


Found this an excellent source:

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It is a horror story brought home.
 
1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????
Is there such a thing as too much freedom?


Is this what you have in mind?


To embrace tolerance is to cease to believe in anything.

Chesterton
More like too much of a good thing-for some people's liking.
 
...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable
, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”





4. . Of course, one can blame Islam...but consider the view from the other side. True, one may see the problem with an atavistic 7th century view of the world...but, for the Muslim it is the fault of the West rejecting the idea of God's immutable will, revealed to his Prophet in the form of an unchangeable code of law.
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."





As a result, we find the very same barbarism of the seventh century visited on our contemporary civilization….



"Ultimate sleeper cell: U.S.-born kids of immigrants are fertile jihadist recruiting grounds"
American-born children of immigrants proving fruitful recruiting ground for jihad in U.S.





'IT IS MY DREAM TO BEHEAD SOMEONE' – AMERICAN MUSLIM
The dark Islamic world of Khalil Abu-Rayyan.

Federal authorities arrested a Michigan man believed to be an ISIS supporter who had planned to carry out an attack on a 6,000-member Detroit church. Khalil Abu-Rayyan, 21, of Dearborn Heights, was allegedly in possession of guns and a large knife, and told an undercover FBI agent that he "tried to shoot up a church one day." "I bought a bunch of bullets. I practiced reloading and unloading," he said in an online conversation. Investigators did not specify which church Abu-Rayyan was eyeing, but said it has a capacity of 6,000 members. In conversations with an undercover agent, he said, "If I can't do jihad in the Middle East, I would do my jihad over here." He also had armed himself with a knife and told the undercover agent, "It is my dream to behead someone."
'It Is My Dream to Behead Someone' – American Muslim





Why is this not addressed in Liberal occupied schools and media?????
 
1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????
Is there such a thing as too much freedom?


Is this what you have in mind?


To embrace tolerance is to cease to believe in anything.

Chesterton
More like too much of a good thing-for some people's liking.




How so?
 
1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????
Melanie Phillips - Wikipedia

Another right wing hack?

Who cares
 
1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????
Is there such a thing as too much freedom?


Is this what you have in mind?


To embrace tolerance is to cease to believe in anything.

Chesterton
More like too much of a good thing-for some people's liking.




How so?
Your quote said it-the tolerance here is too much for a Muslim mind steeped in intolerance.
 
1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????
Is there such a thing as too much freedom?


Is this what you have in mind?


To embrace tolerance is to cease to believe in anything.

Chesterton
More like too much of a good thing-for some people's liking.




How so?
Your quote said it-the tolerance here is too much for a Muslim mind steeped in intolerance.



I see.

Can't disagree.
 
And juxtaposed with the atavistic Muslim mind-set is the Leftist fundamental belief that the worst secular "sin" is to be JUDGMENTAL. Hence, any thought of a political condemnation of Muslim philosophy as being antithetical to human dignity and progress dies before ever being expressed by a Prog, because to criticize or condemn this backward, anti-intellectual world movement would be...JUDGMENTAL...and hence, verboten, even if true!
 
1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????
Melanie Phillips - Wikipedia

Another right wing hack?

Who cares
I care. Herr Lesh. Very much so.
 
1.How is it possible to have opinions about public policy if one has been trained to ignore the facts?
'Cause that is the training that government schooling and the media has imposed on the public.



Writing about the intermittent, yet constant, jihadi attacks throughout the world, Melanie Phillips notes, this is “merely the most visible sign of a much more intractable problem…within Western civilization. …the advance of the global jihad is being facilitated by a wholesale collapse of Western values and national identity….While attention is fixed on foreign battlegrounds, the war is in danger of being lost at home.”

Yet Liberal predomination in the schools and throughout the media has demanded that any recognition of, comments on, warning about, an enemy within, is tantamount to bigotry, racism, and one sort of phobia or another.




2.Islamic civilization exists under a common religious belief authorized in a sacred text whose law is never to be altered. Rather than freedom, it is defined by submission. Understanding can be found by looking deeply into the Arabic verb 'salima,' from which are derived 'Islam,' 'salm,' and 'salaam,' meaning submission, peace, and safety. ["The Handy Religion Answer Book" By John Renard, P. 193], implying 'to be secure,' 'unharmed,' or 'blameless.' Therefore, to be Muslim is to have surrendered, submitted, and obtained security.

The concepts, doctrines, and views are timeless, and remain unchanged since the seventh century. Any who believe that this movement has changed and moved into modernity, are sadly….perhaps terminally….mistaken.



3. "How does that compare with the rewards offered by Western society? Western civilization has left behind its religious belief and its sacred text to place its trust, not in religious certainties, but in "open discussion, trial and error, and the ubiquitousness of doubt."
Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.

Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.”
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."






Would this be possible if not for the either agreement with, or lack of concern by, the political elites?

Why is that????
Melanie Phillips - Wikipedia

Another right wing hack?

Who cares
I care. Herr Lesh. Very much so.

Save your Nazi references for Trump asshole
 
Oh wow, a Muslim bashing thread from PoliticalChic . Must be a day ending in "y"...which also means Trump is lying about something again. Ah, things you can always count on like the sun coming up. Good times!



How are you using the term 'bashing'?

It would seem that your obligation, if you are not a lying low life, is to indicate any errors in the posts with which you disagree.


You can't?

Witness is dismissed.





Oh....and I have four more posts for this thread.
Hope you get to see them....'cause, you know.....your ignorance deserves the pain I provide.
 

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