Extremist party Likud calls for stealing land in Gaza

[Carl in Michigan]

Even an idiot knows the Jews from the bible are NOT the Jews in Israel now.

And Americans today weren't living 200 years ago.

The land is ISRAELS. Arab squatters need to move to Arab lands.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Extremist party Likud calls for stealing land in Gaza
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OH, this is nonsense!!! While the Hong Kong analogy might have been a bit of an exaggeration, given peace, the amount of investment and the potential for new 21st Century innovations in oi drilling, pumping and collection technology, shipping and harbor management was quite huge. But few are going to invest any capital in the Gaza Strip given the fact that

So when some say that Gaza could have become the Hong Kong on the Mediterranean is just shoveling shit.

(COMMENT)

The reason that no clear progress towards this reality was observed is because the Arab Palestinians thought it was more important to pursue political and diplomatic objectives at the point of a gun, rather than peaceful means.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Coyote]

RE: Extremist party Likud calls for stealing land in Gaza
※→ Coyote, et al,

This is true to a degree.

The U.S. Just Agreed to Give Israel $38 Billion in Military Aid

(COMMENT)

That is the value of the annuity over a ten-year period. AND, it is not all discretionary funds (cash). Some of it is credit or grants towards US Foreign Military Financing for Sales (purchases on US Contacts). There is a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU). This new MOU will replace the expiring MOU $30 Billion that expires this year (2018); with the limitation that no grant money can be used to buy fuel. However,some of the annual military aid will go forward towards joint considerations (annual combined funding) for joint American-Israeli (like the joint missile defense programs).

Since the end of the 1948/49 War of Independence, the US has given in grants and services, about $127+ Billion actual dollar value adjusted for inflation.

I know some people keep hearing about a new multi-Billion dollar agreement every other year of so; but, those replace the previous agreements that expire or are affected through changes in critical factors that exploit vulnerabilities or changes in technology.

Most Respectfully,
R

I was just pointing out to the one I was responding to that the prior Administration was hardly anti-Israel

Obama Has Most Pro-Israel UN Record
Obama Has a Stronger Record on Israel Than You Might Have Been Led to Think

Obama Has a Stronger Record on Israel Than You Might Have Been Led to Think

 

[Coyote]

Even an idiot knows the Jews from the bible are NOT the Jews in Israel now.

And Americans today weren't living 200 years ago.

The land is ISRAELS. Arab squatters need to move to Arab lands.

Mass expulsions?

 

[Coyote]

The only thing this indicates is that Netenyahu never had any intention of supporting a two-state solution.

Netanyahu neither initiated this voting nor expressed support of it. He even didn't attend the meeting.

He is known for preventing moves he doesn’t want from reaching the floor, he allowed this to move forward.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You see, the Israelis made a unilateral withdrawal from in late 2005.

Big fat Israeli lie. Israel still actively patrols Palestinian airspace and territorial waters. (boots on the ground) Israel still patrols Gaza on land shooting farmers working their own land.

Why do you base your conclusions on false premise?

Bullshit! Let's see your proof!

It is constantly in the news. How could you miss it?
--------------------
The border areas with Israel witnessed protests against the U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem s the capital of Israel and move the U.S. Embassy to it. During the protests, the Israeli forces used force against the protestors. Due to opening fire to disperse the protests, 89 civilians, including 14 children, were wounded; 57 of them were hit with live bullets, 12 were hit with rubber-coated metal bullets, and 20 were directly hit with tear gas canisters.

As part of targeting fishermen in the sea, Israeli naval forces heavily opened fire at Palestinian fishing boats, northwest of Beit Lahia, north of the Gaza Strip. They surrounded a fishing boat and then arrested 2 fishermen. The boat was sailing within 300 meters offshore and 1200 meters away from the northern Gaza Strip. Opening fire at Palestinian fishing boats repeated on 22 and 26 December 2017. Moreover, on 23 December 2017, the Israeli naval forces targeted fishing boats in al-Sudaniyia area, west of Jabalia, north of the Gaza Strip.

As part of targeting the border areas, on 21 December 2017, Israeli soldiers stationed along the border fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel, east of Gaza Valley (Johor al-Deek), opened fire at Palestinian farmers and shepherds. On 27 December 2017, Israeli soldiers stationed along the border fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel opened fire at empty lands, east of al-Maghazi in the central Gaza Strip. No casualties were reported. On 27 December 2017, Israeli forces stationed along the border fence between the Gaza strip and Israel, east of Beit Hanoun village in the northern Gaza strip, opened fire at the border area. No casualties were reported.

In the Gaza Strip, on 26 December 2017, Israeli forces moved into the southeast of Beit Hanoun village in the northern Gaza Strip. They headed to the south side and stationed near Abu Safiyah site, east of Jabalia. The bulldozers leveled the lands that were leveled earlier. On 27 December 2017, Israeli forces moved into the east of Khuza’ah village, east of Khan Yunis, south of the Gaza Strip. They patrolled the area and then levelled lands.

» PCHR Weekly Report On Israeli Human Rights Violations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (21 – 27 December 2017)– IMEMC News

 

[P F Tinmore]

As to what has changed - the US has changed. Now there is nothing holding Israel back from doing as she wishes. There is absolutely zero Trump support for a peace plan or a two state solution. So it behooves Netanyahu to strike while the iron is hot so to speak.

Who knows - it might be for the best. Just depends on what happens to the Palestinian people.

I disagree. There is NOTHING Trump would like better to suck on his ego than to be the one who made the peace plan for the Arab/Israel conflict in a two state solution. He has been horny for that since day one.

But yes, he is one of the things which has changed. What's the more important one?

I think the important change that shifted things is Trump. Because suddenly all pressure is off Israel. The open recognition of Jerusalem along with other things Trump has said made it clear that he's giving Israel a free hand to do as she wishes. Trump has invested a lot of energy in supporting Israel and zero in supporting the Palestinians - in fact he's barely acknowledged them. There is no longer any pressure from the US on Israel regarding settlements or negotiating for peace. Trump may want a peace plan but he certainly doesn't care enough to put the effort in.

With Trump's unilateralism - the US has shown itself to be incapable of negotiating in good faith with the Palestinians. This is probably the best opportunity Israel will have for acting unilaterally, resolving things to her satisfaction and there will be no repurcussions because a Trump administration will supply the veto

Where have you been the last 8 years when there was an Israel hater in the white house? I never once saw you criticize his equally one-sided position.

Good grief, on his last day in office, he even tried to sneak millions of dollars to be used to take out Israel.

The U.S. Just Agreed to Give Israel $38 Billion in Military Aid

Every penny of which goes directly to Boeing, Raytheon, and Northrup. Israel is the celebrity endorsement for US weapons manufacturers.

Indeed, right out of the pockets of the people and into the pockets of the Military Industrial Complex. (The 1%.)

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You see, the Israelis made a unilateral withdrawal from in late 2005.

Big fat Israeli lie. Israel still actively patrols Palestinian airspace and territorial waters. (boots on the ground) Israel still patrols Gaza on land shooting farmers working their own land.

Why do you base your conclusions on false premise?

Bullshit! Let's see your proof!

It is constantly in the news. How could you miss it?
--------------------
The border areas with Israel witnessed protests against the U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem s the capital of Israel and move the U.S. Embassy to it. During the protests, the Israeli forces used force against the protestors. Due to opening fire to disperse the protests, 89 civilians, including 14 children, were wounded; 57 of them were hit with live bullets, 12 were hit with rubber-coated metal bullets, and 20 were directly hit with tear gas canisters.

As part of targeting fishermen in the sea, Israeli naval forces heavily opened fire at Palestinian fishing boats, northwest of Beit Lahia, north of the Gaza Strip. They surrounded a fishing boat and then arrested 2 fishermen. The boat was sailing within 300 meters offshore and 1200 meters away from the northern Gaza Strip. Opening fire at Palestinian fishing boats repeated on 22 and 26 December 2017. Moreover, on 23 December 2017, the Israeli naval forces targeted fishing boats in al-Sudaniyia area, west of Jabalia, north of the Gaza Strip.

As part of targeting the border areas, on 21 December 2017, Israeli soldiers stationed along the border fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel, east of Gaza Valley (Johor al-Deek), opened fire at Palestinian farmers and shepherds. On 27 December 2017, Israeli soldiers stationed along the border fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel opened fire at empty lands, east of al-Maghazi in the central Gaza Strip. No casualties were reported. On 27 December 2017, Israeli forces stationed along the border fence between the Gaza strip and Israel, east of Beit Hanoun village in the northern Gaza strip, opened fire at the border area. No casualties were reported.

In the Gaza Strip, on 26 December 2017, Israeli forces moved into the southeast of Beit Hanoun village in the northern Gaza Strip. They headed to the south side and stationed near Abu Safiyah site, east of Jabalia. The bulldozers leveled the lands that were leveled earlier. On 27 December 2017, Israeli forces moved into the east of Khuza’ah village, east of Khan Yunis, south of the Gaza Strip. They patrolled the area and then levelled lands.

» PCHR Weekly Report On Israeli Human Rights Violations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (21 – 27 December 2017)– IMEMC News

You use a Palestinian website to support your claim? Come on! Do you take us to be morons like yourselves?

I'll bet you would have believed the Germans when they said Auschwitz was a spa resort for the German Jews.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Extremist party Likud calls for stealing land in Gaza
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OH, this is nonsense!!! While the Hong Kong analogy might have been a bit of an exaggeration, given peace, the amount of investment and the potential for new 21st Century innovations in oi drilling, pumping and collection technology, shipping and harbor management was quite huge. But few are going to invest any capital in the Gaza Strip given the fact that

So when some say that Gaza could have become the Hong Kong on the Mediterranean is just shoveling shit.

(COMMENT)

The reason that no clear progress towards this reality was observed is because the Arab Palestinians thought it was more important to pursue political and diplomatic objectives at the point of a gun, rather than peaceful means.

Most Respectfully,
R

More Israeli bullshit, of course. Israel locked the doors on its way out. No more trade = no more money to run their economy.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You see, the Israelis made a unilateral withdrawal from in late 2005.

Big fat Israeli lie. Israel still actively patrols Palestinian airspace and territorial waters. (boots on the ground) Israel still patrols Gaza on land shooting farmers working their own land.

Why do you base your conclusions on false premise?

Bullshit! Let's see your proof!

It is constantly in the news. How could you miss it?
--------------------
The border areas with Israel witnessed protests against the U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem s the capital of Israel and move the U.S. Embassy to it. During the protests, the Israeli forces used force against the protestors. Due to opening fire to disperse the protests, 89 civilians, including 14 children, were wounded; 57 of them were hit with live bullets, 12 were hit with rubber-coated metal bullets, and 20 were directly hit with tear gas canisters.

As part of targeting fishermen in the sea, Israeli naval forces heavily opened fire at Palestinian fishing boats, northwest of Beit Lahia, north of the Gaza Strip. They surrounded a fishing boat and then arrested 2 fishermen. The boat was sailing within 300 meters offshore and 1200 meters away from the northern Gaza Strip. Opening fire at Palestinian fishing boats repeated on 22 and 26 December 2017. Moreover, on 23 December 2017, the Israeli naval forces targeted fishing boats in al-Sudaniyia area, west of Jabalia, north of the Gaza Strip.

As part of targeting the border areas, on 21 December 2017, Israeli soldiers stationed along the border fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel, east of Gaza Valley (Johor al-Deek), opened fire at Palestinian farmers and shepherds. On 27 December 2017, Israeli soldiers stationed along the border fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel opened fire at empty lands, east of al-Maghazi in the central Gaza Strip. No casualties were reported. On 27 December 2017, Israeli forces stationed along the border fence between the Gaza strip and Israel, east of Beit Hanoun village in the northern Gaza strip, opened fire at the border area. No casualties were reported.

In the Gaza Strip, on 26 December 2017, Israeli forces moved into the southeast of Beit Hanoun village in the northern Gaza Strip. They headed to the south side and stationed near Abu Safiyah site, east of Jabalia. The bulldozers leveled the lands that were leveled earlier. On 27 December 2017, Israeli forces moved into the east of Khuza’ah village, east of Khan Yunis, south of the Gaza Strip. They patrolled the area and then levelled lands.

» PCHR Weekly Report On Israeli Human Rights Violations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (21 – 27 December 2017)– IMEMC News

You use a Palestinian website to support your claim? Come on! Do you take us to be morons like yourselves?

I'll bet you would have believed the Germans when they said Auschwitz was a spa resort for the German Jews.

I know, if it is not from israelibullshit.il, it is not a credible source.

 

[Coyote]

You see, the Israelis made a unilateral withdrawal from in late 2005.

Big fat Israeli lie. Israel still actively patrols Palestinian airspace and territorial waters. (boots on the ground) Israel still patrols Gaza on land shooting farmers working their own land.

Why do you base your conclusions on false premise?

Bullshit! Let's see your proof!

It is constantly in the news. How could you miss it?
--------------------
The border areas with Israel witnessed protests against the U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem s the capital of Israel and move the U.S. Embassy to it. During the protests, the Israeli forces used force against the protestors. Due to opening fire to disperse the protests, 89 civilians, including 14 children, were wounded; 57 of them were hit with live bullets, 12 were hit with rubber-coated metal bullets, and 20 were directly hit with tear gas canisters.

As part of targeting fishermen in the sea, Israeli naval forces heavily opened fire at Palestinian fishing boats, northwest of Beit Lahia, north of the Gaza Strip. They surrounded a fishing boat and then arrested 2 fishermen. The boat was sailing within 300 meters offshore and 1200 meters away from the northern Gaza Strip. Opening fire at Palestinian fishing boats repeated on 22 and 26 December 2017. Moreover, on 23 December 2017, the Israeli naval forces targeted fishing boats in al-Sudaniyia area, west of Jabalia, north of the Gaza Strip.

As part of targeting the border areas, on 21 December 2017, Israeli soldiers stationed along the border fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel, east of Gaza Valley (Johor al-Deek), opened fire at Palestinian farmers and shepherds. On 27 December 2017, Israeli soldiers stationed along the border fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel opened fire at empty lands, east of al-Maghazi in the central Gaza Strip. No casualties were reported. On 27 December 2017, Israeli forces stationed along the border fence between the Gaza strip and Israel, east of Beit Hanoun village in the northern Gaza strip, opened fire at the border area. No casualties were reported.

In the Gaza Strip, on 26 December 2017, Israeli forces moved into the southeast of Beit Hanoun village in the northern Gaza Strip. They headed to the south side and stationed near Abu Safiyah site, east of Jabalia. The bulldozers leveled the lands that were leveled earlier. On 27 December 2017, Israeli forces moved into the east of Khuza’ah village, east of Khan Yunis, south of the Gaza Strip. They patrolled the area and then levelled lands.

» PCHR Weekly Report On Israeli Human Rights Violations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (21 – 27 December 2017)– IMEMC News

You use a Palestinian website to support your claim? Come on! Do you take us to be morons like yourselves?

I'll bet you would have believed the Germans when they said Auschwitz was a spa resort for the German Jews.

Do you use Jewish websites?

 

[Shusha]

Um. Can someone tell me what the heck a "Jewish website" is?

You all DO realize that this is some of the subtle antisemitism that graces this board, and our society in general, right?

There are sites which are factual and relatively unbiased. There are sites which are biased against Israel. And there are sites that are biased for Israel. But use of the term "Jewish website" reeks of old canards.

 

[Coyote]

Um. Can someone tell me what the heck a "Jewish website" is?

You all DO realize that this is some of the subtle antisemitism that graces this board, and our society in general, right?

There are sites which are factual and relatively unbiased. There are sites which are biased against Israel. And there are sites that are biased for Israel. But use of the term "Jewish website" reeks of old canards.

Many of the pro-Israeli websites are Jewish. In this instance I was thinking of the often used Jewish Virtual Library.

What should I call them when countering generic smears of Palestinian websites?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Um. Can someone tell me what the heck a "Jewish website" is?

You all DO realize that this is some of the subtle antisemitism that graces this board, and our society in general, right?

There are sites which are factual and relatively unbiased. There are sites which are biased against Israel. And there are sites that are biased for Israel. But use of the term "Jewish website" reeks of old canards.

Well, to be fair, there ARE Jewish newspapers like the Jewish Press and the Jewish Week that are biased towards Israel in their websites, just like the Electronic Intifada is biased towards Palestinians. So I would go for websites like those operated by the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, etc.

 

[Jroc]

RE: Extremist party Likud calls for stealing land in Gaza
※→ Coyote, et al,

This is true to a degree.

The U.S. Just Agreed to Give Israel $38 Billion in Military Aid

(COMMENT)

That is the value of the annuity over a ten-year period. AND, it is not all discretionary funds (cash). Some of it is credit or grants towards US Foreign Military Financing for Sales (purchases on US Contacts). There is a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU). This new MOU will replace the expiring MOU $30 Billion that expires this year (2018); with the limitation that no grant money can be used to buy fuel. However,some of the annual military aid will go forward towards joint considerations (annual combined funding) for joint American-Israeli (like the joint missile defense programs).

Since the end of the 1948/49 War of Independence, the US has given in grants and services, about $127+ Billion actual dollar value adjusted for inflation.

I know some people keep hearing about a new multi-Billion dollar agreement every other year of so; but, those replace the previous agreements that expire or are affected through changes in critical factors that exploit vulnerabilities or changes in technology.

Most Respectfully,
R

I was just pointing out to the one I was responding to that the prior Administration was hardly anti-Israel

Obama Has Most Pro-Israel UN Record
Obama Has a Stronger Record on Israel Than You Might Have Been Led to Think

Obama Has a Stronger Record on Israel Than You Might Have Been Led to Think

Israeli Jews know who was pro Israel, pro civilization, pro democracy ...it certainly wasn't Obama

 

[Coyote]

Um. Can someone tell me what the heck a "Jewish website" is?

You all DO realize that this is some of the subtle antisemitism that graces this board, and our society in general, right?

There are sites which are factual and relatively unbiased. There are sites which are biased against Israel. And there are sites that are biased for Israel. But use of the term "Jewish website" reeks of old canards.

Well, to be fair, there ARE Jewish newspapers like the Jewish Press and the Jewish Week that are biased towards Israel in their websites, just like the Electronic Intifada is biased towards Palestinians. So I would go for websites like those operated by the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, etc.

There is a wide range of credible to down right fictional in terms of sources and there can still be bias in even the most credible.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You see, the Israelis made a unilateral withdrawal from in late 2005.

Big fat Israeli lie. Israel still actively patrols Palestinian airspace and territorial waters. (boots on the ground) Israel still patrols Gaza on land shooting farmers working their own land.

Why do you base your conclusions on false premise?

Bullshit! Let's see your proof!

It is constantly in the news. How could you miss it?
--------------------
The border areas with Israel witnessed protests against the U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem s the capital of Israel and move the U.S. Embassy to it. During the protests, the Israeli forces used force against the protestors. Due to opening fire to disperse the protests, 89 civilians, including 14 children, were wounded; 57 of them were hit with live bullets, 12 were hit with rubber-coated metal bullets, and 20 were directly hit with tear gas canisters.

As part of targeting fishermen in the sea, Israeli naval forces heavily opened fire at Palestinian fishing boats, northwest of Beit Lahia, north of the Gaza Strip. They surrounded a fishing boat and then arrested 2 fishermen. The boat was sailing within 300 meters offshore and 1200 meters away from the northern Gaza Strip. Opening fire at Palestinian fishing boats repeated on 22 and 26 December 2017. Moreover, on 23 December 2017, the Israeli naval forces targeted fishing boats in al-Sudaniyia area, west of Jabalia, north of the Gaza Strip.

As part of targeting the border areas, on 21 December 2017, Israeli soldiers stationed along the border fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel, east of Gaza Valley (Johor al-Deek), opened fire at Palestinian farmers and shepherds. On 27 December 2017, Israeli soldiers stationed along the border fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel opened fire at empty lands, east of al-Maghazi in the central Gaza Strip. No casualties were reported. On 27 December 2017, Israeli forces stationed along the border fence between the Gaza strip and Israel, east of Beit Hanoun village in the northern Gaza strip, opened fire at the border area. No casualties were reported.

In the Gaza Strip, on 26 December 2017, Israeli forces moved into the southeast of Beit Hanoun village in the northern Gaza Strip. They headed to the south side and stationed near Abu Safiyah site, east of Jabalia. The bulldozers leveled the lands that were leveled earlier. On 27 December 2017, Israeli forces moved into the east of Khuza’ah village, east of Khan Yunis, south of the Gaza Strip. They patrolled the area and then levelled lands.

» PCHR Weekly Report On Israeli Human Rights Violations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (21 – 27 December 2017)– IMEMC News

You use a Palestinian website to support your claim? Come on! Do you take us to be morons like yourselves?

I'll bet you would have believed the Germans when they said Auschwitz was a spa resort for the German Jews.

Do you use Jewish websites?

No. BTW, I am not Jewish either.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Um. Can someone tell me what the heck a "Jewish website" is?

You all DO realize that this is some of the subtle antisemitism that graces this board, and our society in general, right?

There are sites which are factual and relatively unbiased. There are sites which are biased against Israel. And there are sites that are biased for Israel. But use of the term "Jewish website" reeks of old canards.

The male Jewish websites are circumcised.

 

[Jroc]

Um. Can someone tell me what the heck a "Jewish website" is?

You all DO realize that this is some of the subtle antisemitism that graces this board, and our society in general, right?

There are sites which are factual and relatively unbiased. There are sites which are biased against Israel. And there are sites that are biased for Israel. But use of the term "Jewish website" reeks of old canards.

Well, to be fair, there ARE Jewish newspapers like the Jewish Press and the Jewish Week that are biased towards Israel in their websites, just like the Electronic Intifada is biased towards Palestinians. So I would go for websites like those operated by the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, etc.

There is a wide range of credible to down right fictional in terms of sources and there can still be bias in even the most credible.

There's plenty of leftist, Jewish organizations, new papers ect that are Pro "Palestinian" if it were the other way around those people would be killed and drugged through the streets

 

[evenflow1969]

There doesn't appear to be anything in the article about Gaza. I believe the OP title is incorrect.

Gaza/West Bank what does it matter...theft is theft.

Some people are obviously too stupid to realize that Gaza is not part of the West Bank

Of course, a decided lack of intelligence is the primary requirement for an antisemite.

On the contrary you have to be extremely enlightened to understand the Jewish question. You have to be a pathetic lockstep stooge to never ask questions.

Granny says ya can't steal sumpin'

... dat already belongs to ya.

Dat's God's land...

... an' he give it to the Jews...

... Bible says so.

End o' discussion.

Take your book of fiction and shove it up your ass.

If the Arabs did not want to lose control of the Gaza strip, maybe they should not have attacked Isreal in 1967. Isreal took this area over in response to attack and as penalty for attack. Isreal was attacked and won the war then held gaza for it's own for defense purposes. Attack me and fail, I will take your shit and not give it back either. There has to be a penalty for attacking me or you will keep doing it.