Explain to me, the lawful meaning of "SHALL"
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Oddball
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The last reading I did of Black's, the word "must" is on a par with "shall"....Neither are imperative if you are forced to surrender your rights.
Harry Dresden
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he has no idea what he is talking about....
Harry Dresden
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like they said.....shall is one of the most litigated words in the English language....because it can also mean "may, will or must."
B. Kidd
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Don't mock me just because a mod has their head up their ass.
Harry Dresden
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like i asked you in the thread you ran from....show a post of mine kissing trumps ass....are you going to run from this thread now?....
Oddball
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The legal language in this matter was set long before Trump showed up on the scene, shitferbrains.
CrusaderFrank
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Are you still talking about the Mueller "No Collusion No Obstruction" Report
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Oh, so actual law and precedent is repulsive huh, Nat? Were you interested in the actual definition or not? No?
Of course not.
Duly noted.
CrusaderFrank
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Jake, it's going to be very bad. Find a secluded cabin with no TV or electronics for, well the damage should last for the next 25 years
Harry Dresden
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take it up with the supreme court nat....and when are you going to back up what you said about me?...
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What else has he been talking about for the past month?
Harry Dresden
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if nat doesnt agree with it,he is against it....just like those deplorables he talks about...
kyzr
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nat, what about democrat policies?
Instead of whining about Trump in 10 new threads a day, put up some of the "no brainer" democrat policies you support.
Here is a list to pick from. If you can't defend them, then don't whine about why we voted for Trump.
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes to 70% on the wealthy, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
13. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
14. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
15. No new pipelines
16. No offshore drilling
17. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
18. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
19. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
20. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
21. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
22. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
23. Refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
24. Give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but not help US citizens living in tent cities
25. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
26. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
27. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
28. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
29. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infanticide"
30. Change the Electoral College to popular vote
31. All prisoners get to vote, even the Boston Marathon Bomber, so says Bernie
Instead of whining about Trump in 10 new threads a day, put up some of the "no brainer" democrat policies you support.
Here is a list to pick from. If you can't defend them, then don't whine about why we voted for Trump.
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes to 70% on the wealthy, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
13. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
14. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
15. No new pipelines
16. No offshore drilling
17. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
18. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
19. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
20. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
21. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
22. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
23. Refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
24. Give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but not help US citizens living in tent cities
25. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
26. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
27. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
28. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
29. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infanticide"
30. Change the Electoral College to popular vote
31. All prisoners get to vote, even the Boston Marathon Bomber, so says Bernie
nat4900
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REALLY?????..................THAT'S what the Mueller report "concluded"????
Find a 5th grader to explain to you even what the stooge Barr stated in his little, cute "summary."
(how dumb are these Trump ass kissers?? ...and fellow morons, "cheer")........LMAO
Lesh
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What's the only word that means mandatory? Here's what law and policy say about "shall, will, may and must."
It only became so in legal writings after 2010
Until recently, law schools taught attorneys that "shall" means "must." That's why many attorneys and executives think "shall" means "must." It's not their fault. The Federal Plain Writing Act and the Federal Plain Language Guidelines only appeared in 2010. And the fact is, even though "must" has come to be the only clear, valid way to express "mandatory," most parts of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFRs) that govern federal departments still use the word "shall" for that purpose.
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Curious, you're a 5th grader aren't you?
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