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[Jarlaxle]

This is why organized sports is such a good thing when it comes to character building.

Work the dogshit out of them and they don't have the energy to fight or get into trouble.

That's idiotic. The WORST bullies (often protected and even cultivated by the faculty) are usually the jocks.

I know things have changed, I am old, but back when I was in HS if we got in a fight, or a fight was brewing between some kids the principal and the gym teacher took us to the gym and put us in the boxing ring with gloves and headgear until both of us were beaten and worn down to a nub. Usually those kids were back on good terms in a few days at the most.
Why won't that work now?

Liability.

And the fact that you might be putting a 5'1". 110lb 14 year old in the ring with a guy who is 5'10", 180lbs, sadistic, psychotic, and perfectly happy to put brass knuckles in his gloves.

Lawsuits...simple as that. The school would be seen as facilitating violence.

Not to mention that many physical confrontations are bullying--and putting a small, weak freshman up against a 200lb senior solves nothing.

Which is why every child should know how to make and use a garotte by age ten.

So you're saying kids today are better than the kids in the 60s and 70s?

I've been thru plenty of tough military schools, and I've played on a couple of football teams in high school and college, and I know what works and what doesn't work.

When I was on a team that was easy on their players we won 1 game.

When I was on a team that was tough and had a mean head coach we went undefeated.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

If you kiss your kids asses they're going to be brats.

If you teach kids to be dependent on someone else they're going to fail as soon as they're on their own.

I recall a "mean" coach. One of his players complained he wasn't feeling well. The coach called him a "fucking worthless pussy" and suggested he either get on the field or wear a dress and heels.

After the helicopter took him, said player was in the intensive care ward overnight due to kidney failure. Several days later, he was discharged from the hospital, but he was on dialysis for the rest of his life. (He died of sepsis and liver failure at 39.)

 

[mudwhistle]

That's idiotic. The WORST bullies (often protected and even cultivated by the faculty) are usually the jocks.

Liability.

And the fact that you might be putting a 5'1". 110lb 14 year old in the ring with a guy who is 5'10", 180lbs, sadistic, psychotic, and perfectly happy to put brass knuckles in his gloves.

Which is why every child should know how to make and use a garotte by age ten.

I recall a "mean" coach. One of his players complained he wasn't feeling well. The coach called him a "fucking worthless pussy" and suggested he either get on the field or wear a dress and heels.

After the helicopter took him, said player was in the intensive care ward overnight due to kidney failure. Several days later, he was discharged from the hospital, but he was on dialysis for the rest of his life. (He died of sepsis and liver failure at 39.)

There's a difference between a jock and a thug. Football players may be jerks at times, but they don't usually try to knife someone over their lunch money.

And a coach who scares the shit out of you earns your respect, and this causes you to pay closer attention to detail.

Another thing, no coach will remain a coach if he doesn't look out for the health of his players.

Most of the time high school coaches that suck don't have the experience needed to lead a decent football team. I was lucky enough to be on a team where the coach knew how to train everyone properly, and he had an offensive scheme nobody could stop. On average, we always won by 20-30 points per game. We had a running play that went for a TD every single time.

 

[Jarlaxle]

There's a difference between a jock and a thug. Football players may be jerks at times, but they don't usually try to knife someone over their lunch money.

Naah, the difference is often who is describing him. Not all the jocks were bullies, but ALL of the bullies were jocks, with no exceptions. Because they were jocks, they were essentially untouchable. (The fact one of the worst was the son of a cop didn't help.)

And a coach who scares the shit out of you earns your respect, and this causes you to pay closer attention to detail.

Or ignore your body's huge warning signs and end up in the ICU, or dead.

Another thing, no coach will remain a coach if he doesn't look out for the health of his players.

Now, true. Then, not true, short of a dead body.

 

[mudwhistle]

Naah, the difference is often who is describing him. Not all the jocks were bullies, but ALL of the bullies were jocks, with no exceptions. Because they were jocks, they were essentially untouchable. (The fact one of the worst was the son of a cop didn't help.)



Or ignore your body's huge warning signs and end up in the ICU, or dead.



Now, true. Then, not true, short of a dead body.

This is bull shit.

The biggest problem I had in school was the dirty little punks that liked shoving kids in lockers and running then down after school. I had a run-in with a couple of them once. I ended up in the hospital.

When I ratted them out, one of them who did most of the damage had a father who claimed I was picking on his kid.

His father felt his rotten kid could do no wrong.

Anyway, the little shit got suspended.

I heard the POS ended up in prison.

If I were to come across him to this day, I'd put him in the hospital or a morgue without a second thought.

 

[Unkotare]

The WORST bullies (often protected and even cultivated by the faculty) are usually the jocks.

Bullshit.

 

[Unkotare]

...Not all the jocks were bullies, but ALL of the bullies were jocks, with no exceptions. Because they were jocks, they were essentially untouchable. ...

Bullshit.

 

[mudwhistle]

There's a difference between a jock and a thug. Football players may be jerks at times, but they don't usually try to knife someone over their lunch money.

And a coach who scares the shit out of you earns your respect, and this causes you to pay closer attention to detail.

Another thing, no coach will remain a coach if he doesn't look out for the health of his players.

Most of the time high school coaches that suck don't have the experience needed to lead a decent football team. I was lucky enough to be on a team where the coach knew how to train everyone properly, and he had an offensive scheme nobody could stop. On average, we always won by 20-30 points per game. We had a running play that went for a TD every single time.

We had an Basic Wishbone offense. One FB and two HBs.

We had one play that you couldn't tell which one of them had the ball till they were already 10 yds downfield. By the time the D figured out who had it, he was long gone.

You could do the same exact formation and the QB tells them who gets the ball when he called the signals at the line.

Sometimes it was a direct hand-off, or a reverse, or sometimes a double-reverse. It just depended on the Defensive formation.

We'd do this play once or twice a game, so nobody had a chance to figure it out. By that time, they were already behind by two TDs.

It also helped that we had 3 good runners that averaged over 8 yds per carry.

 

[ozro]

Almost NO schools have boxing rings now. How old are you?

That's just mean. Lol

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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I was a teacher and administrator. You continue to be nothing.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Bullshit.

He went to school in the 50s.

 

[mudwhistle]

I was a teacher and administrator. You continue to be nothing.

No wonder you're such a fucking prick.

You're part of the problem, asshole.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No wonder you're such a fucking prick.

You're part of the problem, asshole.

Nope. I retired. Got out of the game before it was ruined by uneducated morons who think they know how to educate. People like you!