Zone1 Exactly WHAT is an American to you?

[Dr.Destructo]

So many discussions about Americans, being American, and supporting our American dreams, laws, and sociatal norms.
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But, WHAT IS a real American? To you, anyway.

-Someone who was just born within the confines of the American borders/territories?

-Someone who was born here from several generations that were born here?

-Someone who took the oath to become an American and protect the true American dream and way of life?

-Someone who came here to TRULY escape a country of filth and degredation, to become the American dream themselves?


WHAT is a real American to you?

 

[Woodznutz]

Someone who lives the ideals of America.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Technically, someone who is an American citizen.

More broadly, someone who is a legal immigrant or visa holder who is seeking citizenship.

Even more broadly but I would argue perhaps even more powerfully as they have zero benefit to gain: someone who believes in the principles that Americans stand for in terms of liberty, pursuit of happiness, justice for all and you Constitution.

There are many Russian spies in the 1980s and beyond who flipped to join the U.S. Why? Primarily due to freedom and opportunity. It is not natural, in fact, goes against G-ds commands to persecute people and bear false witness. Regularly done in Communist and centralized systems.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

Someone who lives the ideals of America.

Too generic.

WHAT are those ideals.............to YOU?

 

[Dr.Destructo]

Technically, someone who is an American citizen.

More broadly, someone who is a legal immigrant or visa holder who is seeking citizenship.

Even more broadly but I would argue perhaps even more powerfully as they have zero benefit to gain: someone who believes in the principles that Americans stand for in terms of liberty, pursuit of happiness, justice for all and you Constitution.

There are many Russian spies in the 1980s and beyond who flipped to join the U.S. Why? Primarily due to freedom and opportunity. It is not natural, in fact, goes against G-ds commands to persecute people and bear false witness. Regularly done in Communist and centralized systems.

Less broad, and more specific is what I'm looking for.

 

[Donald H]

Someone who lives the ideals of America.

Yes, the ideals of continuous wars of aggression.

And ambitions of world domination and all the suggestions offered by the OP that are coincidentally not American.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Less broad, and more specific is what I'm looking for.

Well obviously it is only reserved to someone who is an American citizen.

You answer your question by asking what a foreign country would view that persons citizenship if he they were crossing their border.

 

[Hafar1014]

Two parent families
Two genders
Free markets
Capitalism
Strong defense
Equal rights not DEI
The Electoral College not majority votes
Merit defines success
Limited government
Secure borders
Enforce laws against criminals
Gender separate bathrooms
Everything democrats oppose

 

[Woodznutz]

Yes, the ideals of continuous wars of aggression.

And ambitions of world domination and all the suggestions offered by the OP that are coincidentally not American.

We have fought against world domination by others. We're doing it in the Ukraine/Russia war. That we have dominated in many areas isn't intentional, just part of being the richest, most powerful nation on earth.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Two parent families
Two genders
Free markets
Capitalism
Strong defense
Equal rights not DEI
The Electoral College not majority votes
Merit defines success
Limited government
Secure borders
Enforce laws against criminals
Gender separate bathrooms
Everything democrats oppose

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Freedom of religion.


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[pknopp]

Not something I concern myself over.

 

[Woodznutz]

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Freedom of religion.


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Democracy as well, although we need to be ever vigilant, keeping an eye on the rascals we elect.

 

[Mac-7]

So many discussions about Americans, being American, and supporting our American dreams, laws, and sociatal norms.
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But, WHAT IS a real American? To you, anyway.

-Someone who was just born within the confines of the American borders/territories?

-Someone who was born here from several generations that were born here?

-Someone who took the oath to become an American and protect the true American dream and way of life?

-Someone who came here to TRULY escape a country of filth and degredation, to become the American dream themselves?


WHAT is a real American to you?
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-Someone who was just born within the confines of the American borders/territories?

Not necessarily

-Someone who was born here from several generations that were born here?

Yes

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Democracy as well, although we need to be ever vigilant, keeping an eye on the rascals we elect.

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If only the "democrats" could understand that democracy might need to be more than mob rule.

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[Donald H]

Two parent families- Over 50% odds of divorce, leads to .....................
Two genders- politically motivated to deny the science
Free markets- Needing trade war tariffs to prop it up.
Capitalism- Within the confines of Fascism
Strong defense; Military offense stalled out by a superior foe.
Equal rights not DEI- unequal rights propelled by endemic racism.
The Electoral College not majority votes- A system that can be manipulated so easily.
Merit defines success Lack of success against a more than capable foe.
Limited government- A president making all decisions.
Secure borders-- No effective attempts to stop cheap labour.
Enforce laws against criminals- Taking the side of criminals who are guilty of treason!
Gender separate bathrooms- Open discrimination against life choices of their fellow Americans.
Everything democrats oppose- Democratic freedoms opposed by both leftist and rightist extremists.

And a lack of consciousness in being able to understand and accept the rise of a fascist dictatrship.

 

[Woodznutz]

Two parent families- Over 50% odds of divorce, leads to .....................
Two genders- politically motivated to deny the science
Free markets- Needing trade war tariffs to prop it up.
Capitalism- Within the confines of Fascism
Strong defense; Military offense stalled out by a superior foe.
Equal rights not DEI- unequal rights propelled by endemic racism.
The Electoral College not majority votes- A system that can be manipulated so easily.
Merit defines success Lack of success against a more than capable foe.
Limited government- A president making all decisions.
Secure borders-- No effective attempts to stop cheap labour.
Enforce laws against criminals- Taking the side of criminals who are guilty of treason!
Gender separate bathrooms- Open discrimination against life choices of their fellow Americans.
Everything democrats oppose- Democratic freedoms opposed by both leftist and rightist extremists.

And a lack of consciousness in being able to understand and accept the rise of a fascist dictatrship.

And yet people are clamoring to get in.

 

[Donald H]

Not something I concern myself over.

But the OP carelessy displaying his/her concerns.

It's expected so watch for more variations on the same theme.

Specifically, a propping up of the notion that America's military can still call the shots. Denial of the fact that is gone now. Measured by America's rapid loss in its proxy war.

 

[Donald H]

And yet people are clamoring to get in.

As is true of all countries that appear to offer a better life for the starving masses.

We know that 'you' understand quite well.

 

[Rocko]

A US citizen.

 

[MarathonMike]

But the OP carelessy displaying his/her concerns.

It's expected so watch for more variations on the same theme.

Specifically, a propping up of the notion that America's military can still call the shots. Denial of the fact that is gone now. Measured by America's rapid loss in its proxy war.

Donald H(uong)? spewing his hatred and jealousy of America from Socialist Second Rate Canada.