Ex-homeless people give their take on Newsom's 'investment' in homelessness

[Nova78]

I talked to two ex-homeless people about Newsom's 'investment' in homelessness. Their answers will shock you

I talked to two ex-homeless people about Newsom's 'investment' in homelessness. Their answers will shock you about California, but they do offer some hope.

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Newsom’s homelessness strategy leaves California in a shambles​

As the cold fury of the January storms ripped through San Francisco’s Tenderloin district — the epicenter of the state’s drug and homelessness crisis — much of the trash and drug paraphernalia debris had washed away.
But within minutes of the storms subsiding, the open-air drug use and the drug dealer huddles re-appeared. Debris, including drug paraphernalia and human feces, began to litter the streets again. Panhandlers quickly followed, as tourist traffic picked up, passing over the shit stained street

Newson is a pile feces

 

[Moonglow]

How come you didn't talk about what Newsome is doing wrong?

 

[Nova78]

How come you didn't talk about what Newsome is doing wrong?

It would take hours of typing.

 

[Moonglow]

It would take hours of typing.

Then why waste time starting but not finishing the subject of your OP?

 

[Polishprince]

California has driven out millions of residents, and is anxious to attract more residents and have decided to target the homeless as well as nation's pimps, hoes and johns with their legalization of open hoeing.

We'll see how successful they are.

 

[Nova78]

Let’s start by looking at some of Newsom’s non-pandemic related failures.
California’s governor is expected to sign into law a bill that critics say would make it difficult, if not impossible, for trucking companies in the state to use independent contractor owner-operator truck drivers.
if you’re one of the estimated 76,000 owners of a truck with a “pre-2010 emissions-spec engine” and are a California resident or operate a vehicle there, California could ban you from driving your truck starting on January 1, 2023.

It’s official: California dreamin’ has become a nightmare.

According to the California Policy Lab, which is affiliated with the University of California, the number of people leaving the state is up 12 percent since before COVID-19.

In fact, there are more people heading out than coming in.

Even before the pandemic, a survey from Edelman Intelligence found that more than half of residents in California said they wanted to high-tail it to another state. Among millennial residents, it was almost two-thirds.

Chalk it up to cost of living — the 13.3 percent max income tax rate is the country’s highest — as well as safety and other quality of life issues. And then there are the housing prices: Per Zillow, the median home value in San Francisco is almost $1.4 million. (No wonder “Should I move out?” has topped the Google search rankings there.)
Just under 700,000 people loaded up a moving truck and said goodbye to the Golden State last year.

U.S. census data shows that only a half million moved to California during that same time.

That means there are 200,000 more residents going out than coming in.

• The Energy Crisis

Newsom touts the state as a nationwide leader in the area of green energy. But despite all that praise, California can’t even keep the lights on. Back in August, at least one million residents were left in the dark, and this was not a lone occurrence. The Wall Street Journal reported that California struggled to find 8,000 megawatts of electricity on those dark August evenings, and at times the state was short up to 15,000 megawatts after sunset. That’s because California relies heavily on solar power, and solar power doesn’t work at night.

“Two numbers help explain why California finds itself scrounging for megawatts on many evenings,” said Rebecca Smith and Katherine Blunt. “Between 2014 and 2018, the state reduced its consumption of electricity from natural gas-fired power plants by 21% according to the state’s energy commission. Over the same period, it increased renewable energy consumption by 54%.”

• Wildfires

We are all too familiar with wildfires here in California. While climate change is a factor, there is a bigger factor at play; forest management. Forest management practices in California are not ideal, to say the least. Newsom has even acknowledged that, saying “I am not going to say that the forest management practices in California over the last 100 years have been ideal. Not for one second. But there’s something else going on, not just bad past practices.”

Notice how he mentions “over the last 100 years” and “past practices.” This was a clear attempt to shirk responsibility by blaming it on past leaders, but that shouldn’t fool anyone.

He then proceeded to push the narrative the climate change is the problem, saying “We’re going to have to fast track our efforts in terms of meeting our [clean energy] goals much sooner.”

What he did not talk about fast-tracking, however, are improvements to the state’s forest management practices. He just took advantage of the situation to push his radical climate agenda.

• Water shortages

Not only has Newsom not worked to remedy the water shortages faced by the state, but he has actively worked to make the problem worse. Back in April, Newsom issued new water restrictions as part of a newly released Incidental Take Permit (ITP).

The purpose of these new restrictions was to ensure “that our state water infrastructure operates in a manner protective of fish species listed under the state’s endangered species law,” said Department of Water Resources Director Karla Nemeth and California Department of Fish and Wildlife Director Charlton H. Bonham.

So Newsom decided that limiting the already scarce water supply was necessary to protect fish.

To make matters worse, California has had one of the rainiest centuries in 7,000 years according to a UC Davis study. The problem is, Newsom refuses to build water storage facilities and instead allows trillions of gallons of water to be directed to the ocean. Why you ask? To please environmentalists.

Now let’s take a look at Newsom’s failures relating to the pandemic.

• The massive EDD fraud scandal

California’s handling of unemployment benefits throughout the pandemic has been abysmal. Last week, a state auditor blasted the Employment Development Department for the extremely preventable failures that took place in 2020. The state paid out unemployment benefits to crime syndicates in foreign countries, prison inmates both in and out of the state, and other “bad actors” who took advantage of the system.

“While this helped many individuals in need during the pandemic, bad actors took advantage of the crisis to abuse the system,” wrote Newsom.

Again, look at how Newsom shirks responsibility. While it is true that people took advantage of the system, that wouldn’t have been possible if it was operated in a secure and efficient manner.

Overall, California is estimated to have paid out billions in fraudulent unemployment claims (our tax dollars), and it will take at least several months to get to the bottom of it. Not only that, but 1.7 million Californians may have to repay $5.5 billion in benefits that they were mistakenly granted.

• Vaccine distribution

California has been ranked dead last out of all 50 states for vaccine distribution. Enough said.
And then there are the homeless. If laws prohibiting vagrancy, petty theft, intoxication, and sale of hard drugs could be enforced again, the deterrent effect would mean, overnight, that half California’s homeless would suddenly find find shelter with friends and family. The rest of them could be housed in inexpensive barracks in inexpensive parts of California’s cities. The billions of dollars saved could be used to help them. But that would disrupt the profits of the Homeless Industrial Complex. So in Newsom’s California, expect to see more chaos on our streets, as countless lives are allowed to be destroyed under the pretext of “compassion” and “liberty.”

When it comes to the basic needs of Californians, water, energy, food, shelter, transportation, and safety, the Newsom machine has failed completely. A future with Newsom and his people in charge would mean soaking taxpayers for additional billions – ok, tens of billions – on “affordable housing” and “permanent supportive housing,” while the cost of housing would remain prohibitive. They’d continue to build these boondoggles at a cost, well documented, of over 500,000 per unit, along with “innovative tiny homes,” only 64 square feet in size, at a total project cost of over $200,000 per unit.

Step back a moment and think about this. Even in California, a crew of honest tradesmen could go buy a 120 square foot shed at Home Depot for around $5,000, and for another $20,000, if not much less, they could transport it, put it on a foundation, install plumbing, electric hookups, a bathroom and kitchenette, hook it up to the utility grid and someone could move in. But no. These “tiny homes,” half that size, cost ten times that much, and we’re supposed to be thrilled.

This is what out-of-control corruption looks like. This is the true face of California’s “progressive” movement. It is a movement whose public rhetoric comes from smarmy politicians like Gavin Newsom and passionate grassroots activists, but whose financial and political power rests in the hands of monopolistic corporations and entrenched government bureaucracies.

Why not deregulate housing, invest in enabling infrastructure, and allow more construction on raw land on the perimeter of existing cities and along freeway corridors? Why not reduce the excessive building fees and eliminate unnecessary, crippling delays in getting projects approved? Why not quarry aggregate, mine lithium, extract natural gas, and log and mill timber here in California? These steps would take hundreds of thousands of dollars off the price of a new home. But they would also undermine the power of the special interests that profit from scarcity.

This is life in Newsom’s California. This is the future he offers you. Anybody would be better. If you don’t like Republicans, vote for Paffrath, who is a Democrat with bold new ideas. At his political core, Gavin Newsom represents corporate corruption. A machine that spews progressive rhetoric on the topics of climate change, race, and gender while completely failing to meet the basic needs of every Californian regardless of where they come from or what they believe.

 

[struth]

When dems are openly allowing China to spy on us they are destroying our cities and states wirh the policies that drive up the amount is human fece on their street

 

[1srelluc]

Let’s start by looking at some of Newsom’s non-pandemic related failures.
California’s governor is expected to sign into law a bill that critics say would make it difficult, if not impossible, for trucking companies in the state to use independent contractor owner-operator truck drivers.
if you’re one of the estimated 76,000 owners of a truck with a “pre-2010 emissions-spec engine” and are a California resident or operate a vehicle there, California could ban you from driving your truck starting on January 1, 2023.

It’s official: California dreamin’ has become a nightmare.

According to the California Policy Lab, which is affiliated with the University of California, the number of people leaving the state is up 12 percent since before COVID-19.

In fact, there are more people heading out than coming in.

Even before the pandemic, a survey from Edelman Intelligence found that more than half of residents in California said they wanted to high-tail it to another state. Among millennial residents, it was almost two-thirds.

Chalk it up to cost of living — the 13.3 percent max income tax rate is the country’s highest — as well as safety and other quality of life issues. And then there are the housing prices: Per Zillow, the median home value in San Francisco is almost $1.4 million. (No wonder “Should I move out?” has topped the Google search rankings there.)
Just under 700,000 people loaded up a moving truck and said goodbye to the Golden State last year.

U.S. census data shows that only a half million moved to California during that same time.

That means there are 200,000 more residents going out than coming in.

• The Energy Crisis

Newsom touts the state as a nationwide leader in the area of green energy. But despite all that praise, California can’t even keep the lights on. Back in August, at least one million residents were left in the dark, and this was not a lone occurrence. The Wall Street Journal reported that California struggled to find 8,000 megawatts of electricity on those dark August evenings, and at times the state was short up to 15,000 megawatts after sunset. That’s because California relies heavily on solar power, and solar power doesn’t work at night.

“Two numbers help explain why California finds itself scrounging for megawatts on many evenings,” said Rebecca Smith and Katherine Blunt. “Between 2014 and 2018, the state reduced its consumption of electricity from natural gas-fired power plants by 21% according to the state’s energy commission. Over the same period, it increased renewable energy consumption by 54%.”

• Wildfires

We are all too familiar with wildfires here in California. While climate change is a factor, there is a bigger factor at play; forest management. Forest management practices in California are not ideal, to say the least. Newsom has even acknowledged that, saying “I am not going to say that the forest management practices in California over the last 100 years have been ideal. Not for one second. But there’s something else going on, not just bad past practices.”

Notice how he mentions “over the last 100 years” and “past practices.” This was a clear attempt to shirk responsibility by blaming it on past leaders, but that shouldn’t fool anyone.

He then proceeded to push the narrative the climate change is the problem, saying “We’re going to have to fast track our efforts in terms of meeting our [clean energy] goals much sooner.”

What he did not talk about fast-tracking, however, are improvements to the state’s forest management practices. He just took advantage of the situation to push his radical climate agenda.

• Water shortages

Not only has Newsom not worked to remedy the water shortages faced by the state, but he has actively worked to make the problem worse. Back in April, Newsom issued new water restrictions as part of a newly released Incidental Take Permit (ITP).

The purpose of these new restrictions was to ensure “that our state water infrastructure operates in a manner protective of fish species listed under the state’s endangered species law,” said Department of Water Resources Director Karla Nemeth and California Department of Fish and Wildlife Director Charlton H. Bonham.

So Newsom decided that limiting the already scarce water supply was necessary to protect fish.

To make matters worse, California has had one of the rainiest centuries in 7,000 years according to a UC Davis study. The problem is, Newsom refuses to build water storage facilities and instead allows trillions of gallons of water to be directed to the ocean. Why you ask? To please environmentalists.

Now let’s take a look at Newsom’s failures relating to the pandemic.

• The massive EDD fraud scandal

California’s handling of unemployment benefits throughout the pandemic has been abysmal. Last week, a state auditor blasted the Employment Development Department for the extremely preventable failures that took place in 2020. The state paid out unemployment benefits to crime syndicates in foreign countries, prison inmates both in and out of the state, and other “bad actors” who took advantage of the system.

“While this helped many individuals in need during the pandemic, bad actors took advantage of the crisis to abuse the system,” wrote Newsom.

Again, look at how Newsom shirks responsibility. While it is true that people took advantage of the system, that wouldn’t have been possible if it was operated in a secure and efficient manner.

Overall, California is estimated to have paid out billions in fraudulent unemployment claims (our tax dollars), and it will take at least several months to get to the bottom of it. Not only that, but 1.7 million Californians may have to repay $5.5 billion in benefits that they were mistakenly granted.

• Vaccine distribution

California has been ranked dead last out of all 50 states for vaccine distribution. Enough said.
And then there are the homeless. If laws prohibiting vagrancy, petty theft, intoxication, and sale of hard drugs could be enforced again, the deterrent effect would mean, overnight, that half California’s homeless would suddenly find find shelter with friends and family. The rest of them could be housed in inexpensive barracks in inexpensive parts of California’s cities. The billions of dollars saved could be used to help them. But that would disrupt the profits of the Homeless Industrial Complex. So in Newsom’s California, expect to see more chaos on our streets, as countless lives are allowed to be destroyed under the pretext of “compassion” and “liberty.”

When it comes to the basic needs of Californians, water, energy, food, shelter, transportation, and safety, the Newsom machine has failed completely. A future with Newsom and his people in charge would mean soaking taxpayers for additional billions – ok, tens of billions – on “affordable housing” and “permanent supportive housing,” while the cost of housing would remain prohibitive. They’d continue to build these boondoggles at a cost, well documented, of over 500,000 per unit, along with “innovative tiny homes,” only 64 square feet in size, at a total project cost of over $200,000 per unit.

Step back a moment and think about this. Even in California, a crew of honest tradesmen could go buy a 120 square foot shed at Home Depot for around $5,000, and for another $20,000, if not much less, they could transport it, put it on a foundation, install plumbing, electric hookups, a bathroom and kitchenette, hook it up to the utility grid and someone could move in. But no. These “tiny homes,” half that size, cost ten times that much, and we’re supposed to be thrilled.

This is what out-of-control corruption looks like. This is the true face of California’s “progressive” movement. It is a movement whose public rhetoric comes from smarmy politicians like Gavin Newsom and passionate grassroots activists, but whose financial and political power rests in the hands of monopolistic corporations and entrenched government bureaucracies.

Why not deregulate housing, invest in enabling infrastructure, and allow more construction on raw land on the perimeter of existing cities and along freeway corridors? Why not reduce the excessive building fees and eliminate unnecessary, crippling delays in getting projects approved? Why not quarry aggregate, mine lithium, extract natural gas, and log and mill timber here in California? These steps would take hundreds of thousands of dollars off the price of a new home. But they would also undermine the power of the special interests that profit from scarcity.

This is life in Newsom’s California. This is the future he offers you. Anybody would be better. If you don’t like Republicans, vote for Paffrath, who is a Democrat with bold new ideas. At his political core, Gavin Newsom represents corporate corruption. A machine that spews progressive rhetoric on the topics of climate change, race, and gender while completely failing to meet the basic needs of every Californian regardless of where they come from or what they believe.

Save all that for when he runs for the dem POTUS nomination.

 

[Disir]

There was a little 3 minute thing with an addict that was homeless on TikTok. He talked about Obama telling China to get bent and the US wasn't going to pay back any money owed. The response was China blocked heroin from entering the US as much as possible and making sure that fentanyl made it in. He noted that the addicts had no idea what they were dealing with and it just started killing people left and right and that China seemed to be taking out as many Americans as possible.

I'm not a Newsome fan. Don't get it twisted. Some of these federal programs that were put in place have had significant changes over the years due to elections. For example, an election brings significant changes to the HUD agency itself. Not to mention changes brought about by elections in the individual states.

The mental health situation is not going to change because there is no real money in it. These people are homeless. At best should they become a threat to others then they might be admitted and then treated and released.

There is not going to be any changes here. None. They are going to kick this can down the road. There is no intention to really fix this situation. At all. There never was.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Maybe instead of being such a damn liberal and trying to shelter the homeless when the weather is cold, Newsom should just bus them to Texas or Miami! He can give them free tickets and free food baskets to encourage them to move. Maybe even hire jets planes, then local buses to drop them off on the pavement in front of the Governors’ mansions of those great states!

It might not be the most “ecological” way to deal with the poor and unwanted, our mentally ill, drug addicts and refugee populations, but if “busing” is good enough for Repubs … why shouldn’t Dems do the same?

Maybe then the tax burden will go down in California and the wealthy & middle class types who have left will return to L.A. & San Francisco. Yes, that’s a perfect solution!

It would allow the rest of us who still have homes to enjoy a bit of nostalgia, and return America to the good old days. We can return to endless surfing on beaches with beautiful girls in bikinis, or just hang out in anti-war coffee houses listening to Joan Baez … “California Dreaming.”

It might even help basic industry come back to “Make America Great Again.” We can sit back and enjoy watching MAGA states in the “Old South” deal with the problem as they used to, maybe setting up chain gangs of undesirables to pick cotton for our textile industry …

/s

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

There was a little 3 minute thing with an addict that was homeless on TikTok. He talked about Obama telling China to get bent and the US wasn't going to pay back any money owed. The response was China blocked heroin from entering the US as much as possible and making sure that fentanyl made it in. He noted that the addicts had no idea what they were dealing with and it just started killing people left and right and that China seemed to be taking out as many Americans as possible.

I'm not a Newsome fan. Don't get it twisted. Some of these federal programs that were put in place have had significant changes over the years due to elections. For example, an election brings significant changes to the HUD agency itself. Not to mention changes brought about by elections in the individual states.

The mental health situation is not going to change because there is no real money in it. These people are homeless. At best should they become a threat to others then they might be admitted and then treated and released.

There is not going to be any changes here. None. They are going to kick this can down the road. There is no intention to really fix this situation. At all. There never was.

Truth.
Absent Deus Ex Machina--Earthquake, Pandemic etc. nothing is going to change in California.

The real problem started with the passage of Prop 13, the Taxpayer's Revolt. It caps property taxes at the assessed value at time of purchase--forever.

So, you have people living in homes valued at 1m+ paying tax on the $250,000 the house was purchased for..in the 1990's.
Repealing Prop 13 is a non-starter--since that would toss a few million people out into the streets, as they cannot actually afford the taxes on their homes.

So no affordable housing forthcoming--and you have working people making $15 an hour--living on the streets. Middle class flight resulting in a few very rich..and the majority of working poor scrabbling. Building new housing is a non-starter, since the costs are so high, and the taxes on new construction so high, that no-one can afford it---or will afford it.

There is really not a solution, political, cultural or otherwise.

 

[Disir]

Maybe instead of being such a damn liberal and trying to shelter the homeless when the weather is cold, Newsom should just bus them to Texas or Miami! He can give them free tickets and free food baskets to encourage them to move. Maybe even hire jets planes, then local buses to drop them off on the pavement in front of the Governors’ mansions of those great states!

It might not be the most “ecological” way to deal with the poor and unwanted, our mentally ill, drug addicts and refugee populations, but if “busing” is good enough for Repubs … why shouldn’t Dems do the same?

Maybe then the tax burden will go down in California and the wealthy & middle class types who have left will return to L.A. & San Francisco. Yes, that’s a perfect solution!

It would allow the rest of us who still have homes to enjoy a bit of nostalgia, and return America to the good old days. We can return to endless surfing on beaches with beautiful girls in bikinis, or just hang out in anti-war coffee houses listening to Joan Baez … “California Dreaming.”

It might even help basic industry come back to “Make America Great Again.” We can sit back and enjoy watching MAGA states in the “Old South” deal with the problem as they used to, maybe setting up chain gangs of undesirables to pick cotton for our textile industry …

/s

Seriously? Didn't we have several threads a few years ago on Nevada bussing mentally ill patients to California a few years back. There are states that buy tickets for homeless people and ship them to another state. That's been going on for some 30 years.

 

[Disir]

Truth.
Absent Deus Ex Machina--Earthquake, Pandemic etc. nothing is going to change in California.

The real problem started with the passage of Prop 13, the Taxpayer's Revolt. It caps property taxes at the assessed value at time of purchase--forever.

So, you have people living in homes valued at 1m+ paying tax on the $250,000 the house was purchased for..in the 1990's.
Repealing Prop 13 is a non-starter--since that would toss a few million people out into the streets, as they cannot actually afford the taxes on their homes.

So no affordable housing forthcoming--and you have working people making $15 an hour--living on the streets. Middle class flight resulting in a few very rich..and the majority of working poor scrabbling. Building new housing is a non-starter, since the costs are so high, and the taxes on new construction so high, that no-one can afford it---or will afford it.

There is really not a solution, political, cultural or otherwise.

Nope there isn't. The vision held by one one person for even a couple of terms in any level of government that can really zero in on the problem is not going to be the same vision from the incoming people that are slinging the failure of the those they are ousting.

The really jacked up thing is that the incoming crew often has no clue what they are talking about. The first thing they do is resort to some awkward marketing scheme where they dream up some new terminology (secretary=office manager, trash man=waste management engineer) and change the State logo continue to sell what is clearly a line of crap.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Seriously? Didn't we have several threads a few years ago on Nevada bussing mentally ill patients to California a few years back. There are states that buy tickets for homeless people and ship them to another state. That's been going on for some 30 years.

I guess truth in this country is as strange as any fiction, and my feeble attempts at satire have a hard time keeping ahead of reality. Guess I’m just too old and slow in my ways.

Thanks for pointing this out.

 

[Disir]

I guess truth in this country is as strange as any fiction, and my feeble attempts at satire have a hard time keeping ahead of reality. Guess I’m just too old and slow in my ways.

Thanks for pointing this out.

Fine.

I will just try not to kick you under the imaginary table that represents the distance. I apologize for trying to make your post more serious than it was.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Truth.
Absent Deus Ex Machina--Earthquake, Pandemic etc. nothing is going to change in California.

The real problem started with the passage of Prop 13, the Taxpayer's Revolt. It caps property taxes at the assessed value at time of purchase--forever.

So, you have people living in homes valued at 1m+ paying tax on the $250,000 the house was purchased for..in the 1990's.
Repealing Prop 13 is a non-starter--since that would toss a few million people out into the streets, as they cannot actually afford the taxes on their homes.

So no affordable housing forthcoming--and you have working people making $15 an hour--living on the streets. Middle class flight resulting in a few very rich..and the majority of working poor scrabbling. Building new housing is a non-starter, since the costs are so high, and the taxes on new construction so high, that no-one can afford it---or will afford it.

There is really not a solution, political, cultural or otherwise.

Prop 13 was a grass roots movement that happened because California and local governments were taxing people out of their houses. Taxes were being assessed on the ever escalating “value” of homes every year. Regardless of sales, people saw their taxes increase tenfold very rapidly. I lived in California then and I witnessed it and saw the public outrage at the abuse of homeowners by government. The government has no right to taxes, the people allow it the privilege of taxing them for money to provide necessary services. The compact was that government would only tax for absolutely necessary services. FDR broke that compact with his “new deal” and he broke America right along with it.