EX CIA director John Brennan claims probe into Trump Russia collusion hoax is attempt to “harass and hurt reputationally, professionally, financially”

[Man With A Plan]

Except that didn’t happen

The dossier was NOT leaked before the election

Oh for god's sake...how many times does that have to be debunked? News of the "dossier" was leaked in an article written in Mother Jones before the election. Oct. 31 to be exact!

 

[Man With A Plan]

Except that didn’t happen

The dossier was NOT leaked before the election

I notice that you couldn't provide examples of other Presidential campaigns doing what Clinton and the DNC did in that election, Lesh! Why is that? You made the claim it was commonplace. So let's see you back that up...

 

[Lesh]

I notice that you couldn't provide examples of other Presidential campaigns doing what Clinton and the DNC did in that election, Lesh! Why is that? You made the claim it was commonplace. So let's see you back that up...

I made no such claim

The claim was made that th dossier was used to discredit Trump prior to the election

That is a lie

It was not made public until after the election was well ove

 

[Slade3200]

People in the Jeb Bush campaign didn't pay to have lies concocted about Trump...they paid to have embarrassing truths exposed. (Oh, and just to set the record straight...they didn't find any!) That's a common thing with campaigns. What Hillary Clinton and the DNC did however went WAY beyond opposition research! They did something that I've NEVER seen in a US election! They paid a foreign agent to fabricate phony "dossiers"...planned to have them released to compliant media right before a Presidential election to smear an unsuspecting Trump. THAT my friend is election interference on steroids! They LIED to the American people about who Trump was because they didn't think the voters would vote for Hillary Clinton after seeing her lies about running the State Department through private servers hidden at her home!

That’s total BS… if you want to talk about crossing lines let’s really look at how the two campaigns conducted their oppo research….

Trump’s 2019 Ukraine pressure campaign exceeded ethical and normative boundaries far more than the Clinton campaign’s Steele dossier funding.


Steele Dossier (2016)


• Private opposition research: Clinton campaign and DNC paid U.S. firm Fusion GPS (via Perkins Coie) for research on Trump; Fusion subcontracted ex-British spy Christopher Steele for Russia-related memos.


• No government power used; no foreign government solicited.


• Consequence: FEC fines for misreporting payments as “legal services” ($8,000 to Clinton campaign, $105,000 to DNC). A campaign finance disclosure violation—not impeachable.


This was aggressive (and flawed) but routine campaign oppo research.


Trump Ukraine (2019)


• Abuse of presidential power: Trump withheld ~$400 million in congressionally approved military aid to Ukraine (a U.S. ally facing Russia) and delayed a White House meeting, pressing President Zelensky to publicly announce investigations into Joe Biden and 2016 election theories (“I would like you to do us a favor, though”).


• Used official U.S. foreign policy leverage for personal reelection benefit.


• Consequence: House impeachment for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.


Why Trump’s Actions Crossed Farther


The dossier was flawed private spending with disclosure issues. Trump’s effort weaponized the presidency—subordinating national security aid and diplomacy to solicit foreign help against a rival. One involved bad campaign practices; the other abused constitutional office in a way impeachment exists to check.


Both damaged norms, but Trump’s crossed into direct executive misconduct.

 

[Slade3200]

I did. Democrats are much worse than Republicans. Did you forget the Covid insanity of the Biden admin and Democrat governors and mayors???

I remember it will. They got strict during a crisis. Doesn’t hold a candle to the bullshit Trump is getting away with