Eviscerating 'The Roosevelt Alibi'

[Penelope]

Penelope, you are the anti-semite to the PC extreme reactionary right.

Please. . . both of you . . . actually use sources objectively and critically.

I am , see my signature and I have listed links on other places.

 

[rightwinger]

Penelope, you are the anti-semite to the PC extreme reactionary right.

Please. . . both of you . . . actually use sources objectively and critically.

I am , see my signature and I have listed links on other places.

Please go troll another thread

 

[JakeStarkey]

Penelope, you are the anti-semite to the PC extreme reactionary right.

Please. . . both of you . . . actually use sources objectively and critically.

I am , see my signature and I have listed links on other places.

Your sig is an assertion that your conclusions (Jews be da demon) do not support.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So....what have we learned today?


11. "Between June 22, 1941, and January 31, 1942, the Germans had lost 6,000 airplanes and more than 3,200 tanks and similar vehicles; and no less than 918,000 men had been killed, wounded, or gone missing in action, amounting to 28.7 percent of the average strength of the army, namely, 3,2 million men.[33]

(In the Soviet Union, Germany would lose no less than 10 million of its total 13.5 million men killed, wounded, or taken prisoner during the entire war; and the Red Army would end up claiming credit for 90 per cent of all Germans killed in the Second World War.)
Clive Ponting, 'Armageddon: The Second World War,' p. 130; Stephen E. Ambrose 'Americans at War,' p. 72. ”



And this, the only logical conclusion:

"....realistically middle sized Germany could not defeat the much larger Ussr in the long term. Germany would have eventually surrendered to the western allies to prevent total occupation by the USSR ..."
So did the Red Army really singlehandedly defeat the Third Reich Stuff I Done Wrote - The Michael A. Charles Online Presence (comment)


Clearly, any explanation of Roosevelt's pro-Soviet policy cannot rely on the fear of Stalin quitting the war.

So...one more Liberal myth put to rest......yet the worship of Roosevelt continues unabated.


Liberalism is based on the unthinking acceptance of myth and fabrication.

Always.

 

[JakeStarkey]

PC, you finally have tried. You write, ""....realistically middle sized Germany could not defeat the much larger Ussr in the long term. Germany would have eventually surrendered to the western allies to prevent total occupation by the USSR ...".

That's just it, though. Germany would not surrender, now, did they? They had to be crushed on the battle field. Your fabricated myth fails.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PC, you finally have tried. You write, ""....realistically middle sized Germany could not defeat the much larger Ussr in the long term. Germany would have eventually surrendered to the western allies to prevent total occupation by the USSR ...".

That's just it, though. Germany would not surrender, now, did they? They had to be crushed on the battle field. Your fabricated myth fails.

Because you say so????

But everyone knows you're a congenital liar.....

...that's how you earned the appellation "Fakey."

 

[JakeStarkey]

PC, you finally have tried. You write, ""....realistically middle sized Germany could not defeat the much larger Ussr in the long term. Germany would have eventually surrendered to the western allies to prevent total occupation by the USSR ...".

That's just it, though. Germany would not surrender, now, did they? They had to be crushed on the battle field. Your fabricated myth fails.

Because you say so???? But everyone knows you're a congenital liar..... ...that's how you earned the appellation "Fakey."

Why the personal attack? Because you lost again. The facts, in actually the situation you describe, show the Germans were crushed. They never offered to surrender to terms they were willing to accept.

Those are the facts, PC.

 

[rightwinger]

So....what have we learned today?


11. "Between June 22, 1941, and January 31, 1942, the Germans had lost 6,000 airplanes and more than 3,200 tanks and similar vehicles; and no less than 918,000 men had been killed, wounded, or gone missing in action, amounting to 28.7 percent of the average strength of the army, namely, 3,2 million men.[33]

(In the Soviet Union, Germany would lose no less than 10 million of its total 13.5 million men killed, wounded, or taken prisoner during the entire war; and the Red Army would end up claiming credit for 90 per cent of all Germans killed in the Second World War.)
Clive Ponting, 'Armageddon: The Second World War,' p. 130; Stephen E. Ambrose 'Americans at War,' p. 72. ”



And this, the only logical conclusion:

"....realistically middle sized Germany could not defeat the much larger Ussr in the long term. Germany would have eventually surrendered to the western allies to prevent total occupation by the USSR ..."
So did the Red Army really singlehandedly defeat the Third Reich Stuff I Done Wrote - The Michael A. Charles Online Presence (comment)


Clearly, any explanation of Roosevelt's pro-Soviet policy cannot rely on the fear of Stalin quitting the war.

So...one more Liberal myth put to rest......yet the worship of Roosevelt continues unabated.


Liberalism is based on the unthinking acceptance of myth and fabrication.

Always.

So...where are we

Germany fights the USSR and loses. Somehow, PC thinks the USSR will not take Western Europe which is occupied by Germany

The US Army is 3000 miles away, what makes you think they have any bargaining power over what goes on in Europe?

 

[gipper]

So....what have we learned today?


11. "Between June 22, 1941, and January 31, 1942, the Germans had lost 6,000 airplanes and more than 3,200 tanks and similar vehicles; and no less than 918,000 men had been killed, wounded, or gone missing in action, amounting to 28.7 percent of the average strength of the army, namely, 3,2 million men.[33]

(In the Soviet Union, Germany would lose no less than 10 million of its total 13.5 million men killed, wounded, or taken prisoner during the entire war; and the Red Army would end up claiming credit for 90 per cent of all Germans killed in the Second World War.)
Clive Ponting, 'Armageddon: The Second World War,' p. 130; Stephen E. Ambrose 'Americans at War,' p. 72. ”



And this, the only logical conclusion:

"....realistically middle sized Germany could not defeat the much larger Ussr in the long term. Germany would have eventually surrendered to the western allies to prevent total occupation by the USSR ..."
So did the Red Army really singlehandedly defeat the Third Reich Stuff I Done Wrote - The Michael A. Charles Online Presence (comment)


Clearly, any explanation of Roosevelt's pro-Soviet policy cannot rely on the fear of Stalin quitting the war.

So...one more Liberal myth put to rest......yet the worship of Roosevelt continues unabated.


Liberalism is based on the unthinking acceptance of myth and fabrication.

Always.

So...where are we

Germany fights the USSR and loses. Somehow, PC thinks the USSR will not take Western Europe which is occupied by Germany

The US Army is 3000 miles away, what makes you think they have any bargaining power over what goes on in Europe?

So Stalin's Stooge went to war in Europe to keep his buddy Uncle Joe from conquering all of Europe.

{I know you did not state this, but I am using your usual tactic of debate}

You recognize that Stalin was a heinous ruthless murderer right? You clearly think he would have overrun all of Europe, had FDR not invaded. So...you must agree that FDR's slavish love and support of Uncle Joe, was a terrible mistake. Right?

 

[toxicmedia]

Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)

That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

Wow....how did history forget so many things?

It seems the FDR hero worship from the left, is almost as strong as the right's hero worship of Reagan

 

[toxicmedia]

If you folks want to really hear a fantastic bit of post war history from the Russian perspective, try to Google Stephen Ambrose's 20 minute or so appearance on the old BBC World at War series from the 70's. Ambrose is still a hippie, and his research really does defend the Russian point of view, and not so much Stalin's about the post war division of Europe.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If you folks want to really hear a fantastic bit of post war history from the Russian perspective, try to Google Stephen Ambrose's 20 minute or so appearance on the old BBC World at War series from the 70's. Ambrose is still a hippie, and his research really does defend the Russian point of view, and not so much Stalin's about the post war division of Europe.

Post-war USSR history in eastern Europe has to begin with the communist continuation of Russian imperialism and a search for defensible borders.

 

[rightwinger]

So....what have we learned today?


11. "Between June 22, 1941, and January 31, 1942, the Germans had lost 6,000 airplanes and more than 3,200 tanks and similar vehicles; and no less than 918,000 men had been killed, wounded, or gone missing in action, amounting to 28.7 percent of the average strength of the army, namely, 3,2 million men.[33]

(In the Soviet Union, Germany would lose no less than 10 million of its total 13.5 million men killed, wounded, or taken prisoner during the entire war; and the Red Army would end up claiming credit for 90 per cent of all Germans killed in the Second World War.)
Clive Ponting, 'Armageddon: The Second World War,' p. 130; Stephen E. Ambrose 'Americans at War,' p. 72. ”



And this, the only logical conclusion:

"....realistically middle sized Germany could not defeat the much larger Ussr in the long term. Germany would have eventually surrendered to the western allies to prevent total occupation by the USSR ..."
So did the Red Army really singlehandedly defeat the Third Reich Stuff I Done Wrote - The Michael A. Charles Online Presence (comment)


Clearly, any explanation of Roosevelt's pro-Soviet policy cannot rely on the fear of Stalin quitting the war.

So...one more Liberal myth put to rest......yet the worship of Roosevelt continues unabated.


Liberalism is based on the unthinking acceptance of myth and fabrication.

Always.

So...where are we

Germany fights the USSR and loses. Somehow, PC thinks the USSR will not take Western Europe which is occupied by Germany

The US Army is 3000 miles away, what makes you think they have any bargaining power over what goes on in Europe?

So Stalin's Stooge went to war in Europe to keep his buddy Uncle Joe from conquering all of Europe.

{I know you did not state this, but I am using your usual tactic of debate}

You recognize that Stalin was a heinous ruthless murderer right? You clearly think he would have overrun all of Europe, had FDR not invaded. So...you must agree that FDR's slavish love and support of Uncle Joe, was a terrible mistake. Right?

By going into WWII, FDR saved Western Europe
How does that make him a stooge

Stalin did 90% of the fighting and dying and we ended up with half the continent

Pretty crafty by FDR

 

[Camp]

If you folks want to really hear a fantastic bit of post war history from the Russian perspective, try to Google Stephen Ambrose's 20 minute or so appearance on the old BBC World at War series from the 70's. Ambrose is still a hippie, and his research really does defend the Russian point of view, and not so much Stalin's about the post war division of Europe.

You can see it here. The "20 minute or so..." part starts at about 5 minutes in. The whole episode is relevant to the topic of this thread.

youtube.com/watch?v=e3jbehzcAKc

 

[PoliticalChic]

Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)

That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

Wow....how did history forget so many things?

It seems the FDR hero worship from the left, is almost as strong as the right's hero worship of Reagan

1. The winner writes the history.

Stalin was the winner.


2. The right never worships it's leaders....the Left does.

" Liberals worship so many political deities that they must refer to them by initials, just to save time- FDR, JFK, RFK, MLK, LBJ, and O.J.
Ever hear a conservative get weepy about “RWR” or refer to something as hokey as “Camelot”? Passionate adoration are the primitive emotions of a mob, sentiments generally associated with women, children, and savages,..."
Coulter


Need to be reminded of all the Liberals who called Obama 'savior, messiah, or Jesus"?

 

[rightwinger]

Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)

That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

Wow....how did history forget so many things?

It seems the FDR hero worship from the left, is almost as strong as the right's hero worship of Reagan

1. The winner writes the history.

Stalin was the winner.


2. The right never worships it's leaders....the Left does.

" Liberals worship so many political deities that they must refer to them by initials, just to save time- FDR, JFK, RFK, MLK, LBJ, and O.J.
Ever hear a conservative get weepy about “RWR” or refer to something as hokey as “Camelot”? Passionate adoration are the primitive emotions of a mob, sentiments generally associated with women, children, and savages,..."
Coulter


Need to be reminded of all the Liberals who called Obama 'savior, messiah, or Jesus"?

Lets see who won

Stalin
- Lost 20 million casualties
- Much of his country destroyed
- Gained Eastern Europe for 45 years
- Communism ultimately collapsed

FDR
- Lost 400,000
- Emerged with strongest military in the world
- Emerged with strongest economy
- Avoided any damage to the US
- Saved Western Europe and ended up with Germany and Japan as an allies

FDR wins once again

 

[Moonglow]

So....what have we learned today?


11. "Between June 22, 1941, and January 31, 1942, the Germans had lost 6,000 airplanes and more than 3,200 tanks and similar vehicles; and no less than 918,000 men had been killed, wounded, or gone missing in action, amounting to 28.7 percent of the average strength of the army, namely, 3,2 million men.[33]

(In the Soviet Union, Germany would lose no less than 10 million of its total 13.5 million men killed, wounded, or taken prisoner during the entire war; and the Red Army would end up claiming credit for 90 per cent of all Germans killed in the Second World War.)
Clive Ponting, 'Armageddon: The Second World War,' p. 130; Stephen E. Ambrose 'Americans at War,' p. 72. ”



And this, the only logical conclusion:

"....realistically middle sized Germany could not defeat the much larger Ussr in the long term. Germany would have eventually surrendered to the western allies to prevent total occupation by the USSR ..."
So did the Red Army really singlehandedly defeat the Third Reich Stuff I Done Wrote - The Michael A. Charles Online Presence (comment)


Clearly, any explanation of Roosevelt's pro-Soviet policy cannot rely on the fear of Stalin quitting the war.

So...one more Liberal myth put to rest......yet the worship of Roosevelt continues unabated.


Liberalism is based on the unthinking acceptance of myth and fabrication.

Always.

So...where are we

Germany fights the USSR and loses. Somehow, PC thinks the USSR will not take Western Europe which is occupied by Germany

The US Army is 3000 miles away, what makes you think they have any bargaining power over what goes on in Europe?

So Stalin's Stooge went to war in Europe to keep his buddy Uncle Joe from conquering all of Europe.

{I know you did not state this, but I am using your usual tactic of debate}

You recognize that Stalin was a heinous ruthless murderer right? You clearly think he would have overrun all of Europe, had FDR not invaded. So...you must agree that FDR's slavish love and support of Uncle Joe, was a terrible mistake. Right?

By going into WWII, FDR saved Western Europe
How does that make him a stooge

Stalin did 90% of the fighting and dying and we ended up with half the continent

Pretty crafty by FDR

Why Polichic could have beaten Hitler and his military machine single handed, just like Superman did during the war..

 

[PoliticalChic]

Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)

That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

Wow....how did history forget so many things?

It seems the FDR hero worship from the left, is almost as strong as the right's hero worship of Reagan

1. The winner writes the history.

Stalin was the winner.


2. The right never worships it's leaders....the Left does.

" Liberals worship so many political deities that they must refer to them by initials, just to save time- FDR, JFK, RFK, MLK, LBJ, and O.J.
Ever hear a conservative get weepy about “RWR” or refer to something as hokey as “Camelot”? Passionate adoration are the primitive emotions of a mob, sentiments generally associated with women, children, and savages,..."
Coulter


Need to be reminded of all the Liberals who called Obama 'savior, messiah, or Jesus"?

Lets see who won

Stalin
- Lost 20 million casualties
- Much of his country destroyed
- Gained Eastern Europe for 45 years
- Communism ultimately collapsed

FDR
- Lost 400,000
- Emerged with strongest military in the world
- Emerged with strongest economy
- Avoided any damage to the US
- Saved Western Europe and ended up with Germany and Japan as an allies

FDR wins once again

Stop lying.

Stalin didn't have 20 million casualites...

...he had 20 million victims.

That's only the Russian victims.



By insisting that Roosevelt demand 'unconditional surrender,' thereby extending the war 3-5 years....

150,00-200,000 American soldiers were also his victims.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If you folks want to really hear a fantastic bit of post war history from the Russian perspective, try to Google Stephen Ambrose's 20 minute or so appearance on the old BBC World at War series from the 70's. Ambrose is still a hippie, and his research really does defend the Russian point of view, and not so much Stalin's about the post war division of Europe.

You're not serious, are you?????


All history taught in American universities since the 40s has been "from the Russian perspective."

 

[Moonglow]

Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)

That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

Wow....how did history forget so many things?

It seems the FDR hero worship from the left, is almost as strong as the right's hero worship of Reagan

1. The winner writes the history.

Stalin was the winner.


2. The right never worships it's leaders....the Left does.

" Liberals worship so many political deities that they must refer to them by initials, just to save time- FDR, JFK, RFK, MLK, LBJ, and O.J.
Ever hear a conservative get weepy about “RWR” or refer to something as hokey as “Camelot”? Passionate adoration are the primitive emotions of a mob, sentiments generally associated with women, children, and savages,..."
Coulter


Need to be reminded of all the Liberals who called Obama 'savior, messiah, or Jesus"?

Yes, post the multitudes of felicitations from all American liberals...prove the lies that come out of your mouth with cut-n-paste articles...from Ann no doubt...