Evidence Suggests FDR Let Pearl Harbor Happen to Force America into WWII

[J.S.]

In That War, the Japanese Lost Their Worst People, While America Lost Its Best




A later generation of Japanese achieved high standing the civilized way, by taking advantage of our decadent economic leadership. Your worship of Wall Street is the ulterior motive behind your tin-foil demonization.

I don't even know what that means, so I guess I should laugh.

 

[J.S.]

Why? Are you suggesting a US president wouldn't get Americans killed for their own goals? I mean, Bush Dubya did it. How many people died in Iraq after he pushed for WMDs in Iraq?

Exactly. There were never any weapons of "mass destruction" found in Iraq.

 

[J.S.]

You are a piece of shit

Just when I thought this thread could not get any dumber.

 

[J.S.]

Hilarious

Okay, I stand corrected on my dumb comment.

 

[J.S.]

Oh, I see this was moved to conspiracy theories. Looks like a butthurt snitch told teacher.

 

[J.S.]

In 1941, there were no satellites to observe every inch of the earth so the only things intelligence could use were radio intercepts and visual observations.

Well, of course! They are all observing things from their kitchen windows while doing the dishes!

 

[AZrailwhale]

Well, of course! They are all observing things from their kitchen windows while doing the dishes!

Or from ships at sea which is why the Kido Butai went far to the north of the normal shipping lanes. Ships don’t wander all over the ocean, they take the shortest, most fuel conserving routes. That’s why surface raiders and submarines had little trouble finding targets,

 

[J.S.]

Or from ships at sea which is why the Kido Butai went far to the north of the normal shipping lanes. Ships don’t wander all over the ocean, they take the shortest, most fuel conserving routes. That’s why surface raiders and submarines had little trouble finding targets,

So? You still have to approach and reach your destination, no matter how circuitous the route.

 

[J.S.]

I'll give you one for "conspiracy theory." Show me a single document showing that the Germans systematically planned to kill all the Jews. If you can't find that document, then label your theory as conspiracy.

 

[Care4all]

Pearl Harbor and the ‘Back Door to War’ Theory | Description & Facts | Britannica

The ‘back door to war’ theory—while not supported by most historians—states that U.S. Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt provoked the Japanese military to attack the U.S. naval base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, which led to American involvement in World War II. Learn more about the theory in this article.

www.britannica.com

 

[AZrailwhale]

So? You still have to approach and reach your destination, no matter how circuitous the route.

Five minutes warning versus hours or days makes a huge difference for the attack.

 

[otto105]

Your dislike of evidence doesn't invalidate that evidence.

What evidence?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I don't even know what that means, so I guess I should laugh.

Tricks of the Netrix

You're lying because your inferior mind has no way of answering it, or you are too lazy to think about anything that disturbs your smug submission to your Influencers.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I'll give you one for "conspiracy theory." Show me a single document showing that the Germans systematically planned to kill all the Jews. If you can't find that document, then label your theory as conspiracy.

A Document Means It's Been Doctored

 

[Foxfyre]

Evidence Suggests FDR Let Pearl Harbor Happen to Force America into WWII​

REPORT: Evidence Suggests FDR Let Pearl Harbor Happen to Force America into WWII | The Gateway Pundit | by Assistant Editor

83 years ago yesterday, America was brought into war with what was described then, and has been described consistently since, as a “sneak attack” by Imperial Japan.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

8 Dec 2024

83 years ago yesterday, America was brought into war with what was described then, and has been described consistently since, as a “sneak attack” by Imperial Japan.
Then-President Franklin Roosevelt gave a speech on December 8th before Congress where he described it as a “Day of Infamy” where America was suddenly and deliberately attacked.
What Roosevelt failed to mention is that he knew the attack was going to happen, the government had received copious warnings about what was going to happen, and those warnings were not only ignored but steps were taken to facilitate the Japanese attack.
A series of events and factual matters strongly suggest that Roosevelt not only wanted war, but employed his top officials to help him in that effort.
The Chief of Naval Operations, Lt. Cmdr. Arthur H. McCollum wrote the eight-action-points-memo on Oct. 7, 1940 to try to get Japan to attack the United States first.
You can read the entire important McCollum memo about baiting Japan into war here. This memo was originally uncovered by historian Robert Stinnett (1924-2018) and published in his 1999 work, “Day of Deceit.” Here’s the key section:
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There is this meme that the U.S. was just absolutely surprised and shocked that the Japanese chose war.
It came as no surprise to anyone in power at the time.
Here’s a Virginian paper the day before December 7, 1941:

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Roosevelt knew. And he could have done anything to stop it. But he didn’t want to stop it. He wanted to use it.


Commentary:
There have been whispers and innuendo through the years that FDR was well aware of the coming attack of Dec 7th, 1941. That he did in fact allow the Surprise Attack to proceed.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt was surrounded by a powerful Cabal.
As for Pearl Harbor, having campaigned on a promise to keep America out of war, which poll after poll at the time showed that 84% of Americans opposed entering, Rosenvelt did all he could to maneuver Japan into firing the first shot.
Destroying Japan also paved the way for the Chinese takeover of Asia
The Soviet archives demonstrate that Stalin desired a war between the US and Japan. He believed that the chaos of such a conflict would ripen the conditions for Communist revolutions in Asia.
Much of this information has been kept from the public all these years and there's no one alive today tp confirm or deny the facts that occurred in the 1930s and 40s.
What I do know is that during that time Washington was a hotbed of conspiracies and Communist infiltration.
What we also know is that the 'Democrat Party' hasn’t changed one iota, they still worship and bow before evil.
Historically we know that WWII began in 1939, when Poland was invaded. But any statue in Russia declares the 'Great War' to be 1941-1945, omitting the years 1939 and 1940, when the Soviet Union and Germany, under a mutual pact, invaded Poland and cleanly divided it between the two of them.
FDR's cabinet was full of communists. They were probably interested in going to war only once Hitler betrayed Stalin and attacked him, in 1941. That was the turning point for FDR. That was when FDR wanted to jump in and help his communist allies.
In fact Joe McCarthy was correct that Washington D.C. and the halls of Congress were teaming with Russian Communist spies.
The question is , under the Biden/Obama administration we were no better off today than our parents or grand-parents living during those dark years of the 1930's and 40's.

That one isn't a new conspiracy theory. I've heard/read that theory kicked around for decades now. As for the 'Communists' in government, I don't know about that. I know that was McCarthy's and some other's claims as I recall 4 or 5 years after the war but his investigations never turned up much while many injustices were done.

But I do think it is plausible that FDR wanted into the war. Did he allow Pearl Harbor? I don't know but many historians have asserted that he and the Pentagon/State Dept were not as 'surprised' as they claimed. It is really hard to sort out which historians writing about it have the actual goods on what really happened.

One of the most thorough accounts is in this book that says there were three conspiracies: 1) provoking Japan to attack 2) keeping the Pearl Harbor commanders/officers from knowing the attack was coming 3) Keeping the American people from finding out that the attack was provoked:

 

[Doc7505]

The declaration of war was supposed to be delivered to Cordell Hull, the Secretary of State just before the attack commenced, NOT on Monday.

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It was said that the Ambassador from Japan because Embassy staff had difficulty decoding and transcribing the declaration of war from Japanese to English.
Also note that Nazi Germany declared war on the U.S. December 11, 21941

Japan declares war, 1941 | Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History

Japan declares war, 1941 | | On December 7, 1941, two hours after the Japanese attack on American military installations at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, Japan declared war on the United States and Great Britain, marking America’s entry into World War II. The Japanese government had originally intended...

www.gilderlehrman.org

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Germany declares war on the United States | December 11, 1941 | HISTORY

Adolf Hitler declares war on the United States, bringing America, which had been neutral, into the European conflict. The bombing of Pearl Harbor surprised even Germany. Although Hitler had made an oral agreement with his Axis partner Japan that Germany would join a war against the United...

www.history.com

 

[Doc7505]

I'll give you one for "conspiracy theory." Show me a single document showing that the Germans systematically planned to kill all the Jews. If you can't find that document, then label your theory as conspiracy.

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That's Bull Scatology. The Wannsee Conference laid out the plan to complete the extermination of Jews in Europe.

"At the time of the Wannsee Conference, most participants were already aware that the Nazi regime had engaged in mass murder of Jews and other civilians in the German-occupied areas of the Soviet Union and in Serbia. Some had learned of the actions of the Einsatzgruppen and other police and military units, which were already slaughtering tens of thousands of Jews in the German-occupied Soviet Union. Others were aware that units of the German Army and the SS and police were killing Jews in Serbia. None of the officials present at the meeting objected to the "Final Solution" View this term in the glossary policy that Heydrich announced."​

Wannsee Conference and the "Final Solution"

At the Wannsee conference of January 1942, Nazi Party and German government officials gathered to coordinate implementation of the “Final Solution to the Jewish Question.”

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

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Coordinating the Destruction of an Entire People: The Wannsee Conference | The National WWII Museum | New Orleans

On January 20, 1942, a group of Nazi leaders met to coordinate a continent-wide genocide.

www.nationalww2museum.org

 

[otto105]

That one isn't a new conspiracy theory. I've heard/read that theory kicked around for decades now. As for the 'Communists' in government, I don't know about that. I know that was McCarthy's and some other's claims as I recall 4 or 5 years after the war but his investigations never turned up much while many injustices were done.

But I do think it is plausible that FDR wanted into the war. Did he allow Pearl Harbor? I don't know but many historians have asserted that he and the Pentagon/State Dept were not as 'surprised' as they claimed. It is really hard to sort out which historians writing about it have the actual goods on what really happened.

One of the most thorough accounts is in this book that says there were three conspiracies: 1) provoking Japan to attack 2) keeping the Pearl Harbor commanders/officers from knowing the attack was coming 3) Keeping the American people from finding out that the attack was provoked:
View attachment 1053632

It has been and only will be a wingnut conspiracy to try to tarnish the legacy of FDR.

 

[J.S.]

Five minutes warning versus hours or days makes a huge difference for the attack.

"Five minutes." LOL. They knew an attack was coming that weekend.

 

[J.S.]

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That's Bull Scatology. The Wannsee Conference laid out the plan to complete the extermination of Jews in Europe.

"At the time of the Wannsee Conference, most participants were already aware that the Nazi regime had engaged in mass murder of Jews and other civilians in the German-occupied areas of the Soviet Union and in Serbia. Some had learned of the actions of the Einsatzgruppen and other police and military units, which were already slaughtering tens of thousands of Jews in the German-occupied Soviet Union. Others were aware that units of the German Army and the SS and police were killing Jews in Serbia. None of the officials present at the meeting objected to the "Final Solution" View this term in the glossary policy that Heydrich announced."​

Wannsee Conference and the "Final Solution"

At the Wannsee conference of January 1942, Nazi Party and German government officials gathered to coordinate implementation of the “Final Solution to the Jewish Question.”

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

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Coordinating the Destruction of an Entire People: The Wannsee Conference | The National WWII Museum | New Orleans

On January 20, 1942, a group of Nazi leaders met to coordinate a continent-wide genocide.

www.nationalww2museum.org

No, the conference did not do that. Come up with more authoritative sources.