Everything Old Is New Again....

[Truthseeker420]

Did you know that he defeated the 'Evil Empire,' and won the Cold War without firing a shot?

And, looks like 58% know this, as well:

"Between the early 1980s and 2007 we lived in an economic Golden Age. Never before have so many people advanced so far economically in so short a period of time as they have during the last 25 years. Until the credit crisis, 70 million people a year were joining the middle class. The U.S. kicked off this long boom with the economic reforms of Ronald Reagan, particularly his enormous income tax cuts. We burst from the economic stagnation of the 1970s into a dynamic, innovative, high-tech-oriented economy. Even in recent years the much-maligned U.S. did well. Between year-end 2002 and year-end 2007 U.S. growth exceeded the entire size of China's economy.”
How Capitalism Will Save Us - Forbes.com

Golden age for who? The 1% transnational corporation did fine. Families saw the destruction of their one income lifestyles turned into dad,mom and the kids working to support their families and living off their credit cards.

Let me guess: you received your 'education' in government schools....
..am I right?


Check out post #13.

I'm fully aware of the statistics neocons use to support the myth of Reagan.

I'll take a government education over a Fox News "education" any day...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ahh, 'Chic, from your post I would almost imply that you believe 'history' is 'truth'. That confuses me, because I know you're much too intelligent to think such a thing.

What was I thinking???

Nah...you're right....from now on, I'll get my history lessons the same place you do: bazooka comics, and the DNC.

Now, you know perfectly well my opinion of the two political parties that divide and conquer America, so the DNC is not a source of much for me. And I never liked comics even as a kid (I was more into Nietzsche and Camus).
But all my studies of 'history' show that one needs to examine many accounts and then try to discern what the combination of facts might be, if any. Even the Encyclopedia Britannica has errors.
What sources do you choose to believe (other than the ones that support a limited view of the world and the universe)?

"...studies of 'history' show that one needs to examine many accounts and then try to discern what the combination of facts might be,..."


Now, that's very different from the import of your previous post.


Good to see you back-pedaling furiously!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Golden age for who? The 1% transnational corporation did fine. Families saw the destruction of their one income lifestyles turned into dad,mom and the kids working to support their families and living off their credit cards.

Let me guess: you received your 'education' in government schools....
..am I right?


Check out post #13.

I'm fully aware of the statistics neocons use to support the myth of Reagan.

I'll take a government education over a Fox News "education" any day...

Speaking of education....I notice you use Chomsky as a sig.....

That says a great deal about your need of education.

1. Chomsky has figured out how to make an exceptional fortune while living as a self-described ‘anarchist-socialist’ dissident in a capitalist society he has described as a ‘police state.’

a. He claims to be constantly threatened with censorship, while publishing dozens of books.

b. He denounces the Pentagon as the epitome of evil, while making million from his work for the very same institution. As a tenured MIT professor he actually works for the Research Laboratory of Electronics at MIT, and same is entirely funded by the Pentagon and a few multinational corporations.

c. His first book, “Syntactic Structures,” was written with grants from the US Army (Signal Corp), the Air Force (Office of Scientific Research, Air Research, and Development Command), and Office of Naval Research.



2. A Professor of Linguistics, Chomsky is vital to the air force and others to improve their “increasingly large investment in so-called ‘command and control’ computer systems” that were being used in Vietnam. Since the computer cannot ‘understand’ English, the commanders’ communications must be translated into a language that the computer can use.
Noam Chomsky: Politics or Science?



3. A self-described admirer of the Black Panthers, who says that intellectuals must combat ‘all forms of racism,’ and complains that America excluded blacks from large parts of the country, owns a home in a town with a black population of 1.1%
Bill Frezza, “A Lion in Winter,” The Tech (MIT student newspaper), February 20, 2004



4. In response to U.S. declarations of a War on Terrorism in 1981 and the redeclaration in 2001, Chomsky has argued that the major sources of international terrorism are the world's major powers, led by the United States. Politics of Noam Chomsky


5. Chomsky praised the North Vietnamese for their efforts in building material prosperity, social justice, and cultural progress. He also went on to discuss and support the political writing of Le Duan. [-Pacific Daily Report of the U.S. government's Foreign Broadcast Information Service, April 16, 1970, pages K2-K3]


6. Chomsky was one of the chief deniers of the Cambodian genocide of the 1970s, which took place in the wake of the Communist victory and American withdrawal from Indochina. He directed vitriolic attacks towards the reporters and witnesses who testified to the human catastrophe that was taking place there. Initially, Chomsky tried to minimize the deaths (a “few thousand”) and compared those killed by Pol Pot and his followers to the collaborators who had been executed by resistance movements in Europe at the end of World War II.
By 1980, however, it was no longer possible to deny that some 2 million of Cambodia's 7.8 million people had perished at the hands of the Communists. But Professor Chomsky continued to deny the genocide, proposing that the underlying problem may have been a failure of the rice crop. As late as 1988, Chomsky returned to the subject and insisted that whatever had happened in Cambodia, the U.S. was to blame.

a. This conclusion is the principal theme of what may be loosely termed Chomsky's intellectual oeuvre: Whatever evil exists in the world, the United States is to blame. His intellectual obsession is America and its “grand strategy of world domination.” In 1967 Professor Chomsky wrote that America “needed a kind of denazification.” The Third Reich has provided him with his central metaphor for his own country ever since.

b. The Soviet dictatorship was not only "morally equivalent" to democratic America, in Chomsky’s view, but actually better because it was less powerful. The chief sin of Stalinism in his eyes was not the murder of millions, but the fact that he had given socialism a bad name.
Noam Chomsky - Discover the Networks

What kind of buffoon would use Chomsky as a source of knowledge?

Yup....government schooling.

 

[there4eyeM]

It seems you sure like that term, 'Chic; 'backpedal'. I do ride a bicycle quite a lot and so understand the inutility of such action other than to reposition the pedals for a better takeoff.

From your use, it would seem you don't understand 'cycling.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It seems you sure like that term, 'Chic; 'backpedal'. I do ride a bicycle quite a lot and so understand the inutility of such action other than to reposition the pedals for a better takeoff.

From your use, it would seem you don't understand 'cycling.

And, in that vein....
I used to drive to work, but now I bring my lunch.

 

[Truthseeker420]

Let me guess: you received your 'education' in government schools....
..am I right?


Check out post #13.

I'm fully aware of the statistics neocons use to support the myth of Reagan.

I'll take a government education over a Fox News "education" any day...

Speaking of education....I notice you use Chomsky as a sig.....

That says a great deal about your need of education.

1. Chomsky has figured out how to make an exceptional fortune while living as a self-described ‘anarchist-socialist’ dissident in a capitalist society he has described as a ‘police state.’

a. He claims to be constantly threatened with censorship, while publishing dozens of books.

b. He denounces the Pentagon as the epitome of evil, while making million from his work for the very same institution. As a tenured MIT professor he actually works for the Research Laboratory of Electronics at MIT, and same is entirely funded by the Pentagon and a few multinational corporations.

c. His first book, “Syntactic Structures,” was written with grants from the US Army (Signal Corp), the Air Force (Office of Scientific Research, Air Research, and Development Command), and Office of Naval Research.



2. A Professor of Linguistics, Chomsky is vital to the air force and others to improve their “increasingly large investment in so-called ‘command and control’ computer systems” that were being used in Vietnam. Since the computer cannot ‘understand’ English, the commanders’ communications must be translated into a language that the computer can use.
Noam Chomsky: Politics or Science?



3. A self-described admirer of the Black Panthers, who says that intellectuals must combat ‘all forms of racism,’ and complains that America excluded blacks from large parts of the country, owns a home in a town with a black population of 1.1%
Bill Frezza, “A Lion in Winter,” The Tech (MIT student newspaper), February 20, 2004



4. In response to U.S. declarations of a War on Terrorism in 1981 and the redeclaration in 2001, Chomsky has argued that the major sources of international terrorism are the world's major powers, led by the United States. Politics of Noam Chomsky


5. Chomsky praised the North Vietnamese for their efforts in building material prosperity, social justice, and cultural progress. He also went on to discuss and support the political writing of Le Duan. [-Pacific Daily Report of the U.S. government's Foreign Broadcast Information Service, April 16, 1970, pages K2-K3]


6. Chomsky was one of the chief deniers of the Cambodian genocide of the 1970s, which took place in the wake of the Communist victory and American withdrawal from Indochina. He directed vitriolic attacks towards the reporters and witnesses who testified to the human catastrophe that was taking place there. Initially, Chomsky tried to minimize the deaths (a “few thousand”) and compared those killed by Pol Pot and his followers to the collaborators who had been executed by resistance movements in Europe at the end of World War II.
By 1980, however, it was no longer possible to deny that some 2 million of Cambodia's 7.8 million people had perished at the hands of the Communists. But Professor Chomsky continued to deny the genocide, proposing that the underlying problem may have been a failure of the rice crop. As late as 1988, Chomsky returned to the subject and insisted that whatever had happened in Cambodia, the U.S. was to blame.

a. This conclusion is the principal theme of what may be loosely termed Chomsky's intellectual oeuvre: Whatever evil exists in the world, the United States is to blame. His intellectual obsession is America and its “grand strategy of world domination.” In 1967 Professor Chomsky wrote that America “needed a kind of denazification.” The Third Reich has provided him with his central metaphor for his own country ever since.

b. The Soviet dictatorship was not only "morally equivalent" to democratic America, in Chomsky’s view, but actually better because it was less powerful. The chief sin of Stalinism in his eyes was not the murder of millions, but the fact that he had given socialism a bad name.
Noam Chomsky - Discover the Networks

What kind of buffoon would use Chomsky as a source of knowledge?

Yup....government schooling.

I admire Chomsky's intelligence but I'm not a Chomsky sheep. I don't use Chomsky as my only source nor do I adhere to his every word.

But let's stick to the thread topic....

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm fully aware of the statistics neocons use to support the myth of Reagan.

I'll take a government education over a Fox News "education" any day...

Speaking of education....I notice you use Chomsky as a sig.....

That says a great deal about your need of education.

1. Chomsky has figured out how to make an exceptional fortune while living as a self-described ‘anarchist-socialist’ dissident in a capitalist society he has described as a ‘police state.’

a. He claims to be constantly threatened with censorship, while publishing dozens of books.

b. He denounces the Pentagon as the epitome of evil, while making million from his work for the very same institution. As a tenured MIT professor he actually works for the Research Laboratory of Electronics at MIT, and same is entirely funded by the Pentagon and a few multinational corporations.

c. His first book, “Syntactic Structures,” was written with grants from the US Army (Signal Corp), the Air Force (Office of Scientific Research, Air Research, and Development Command), and Office of Naval Research.



2. A Professor of Linguistics, Chomsky is vital to the air force and others to improve their “increasingly large investment in so-called ‘command and control’ computer systems” that were being used in Vietnam. Since the computer cannot ‘understand’ English, the commanders’ communications must be translated into a language that the computer can use.
Noam Chomsky: Politics or Science?



3. A self-described admirer of the Black Panthers, who says that intellectuals must combat ‘all forms of racism,’ and complains that America excluded blacks from large parts of the country, owns a home in a town with a black population of 1.1%
Bill Frezza, “A Lion in Winter,” The Tech (MIT student newspaper), February 20, 2004



4. In response to U.S. declarations of a War on Terrorism in 1981 and the redeclaration in 2001, Chomsky has argued that the major sources of international terrorism are the world's major powers, led by the United States. Politics of Noam Chomsky


5. Chomsky praised the North Vietnamese for their efforts in building material prosperity, social justice, and cultural progress. He also went on to discuss and support the political writing of Le Duan. [-Pacific Daily Report of the U.S. government's Foreign Broadcast Information Service, April 16, 1970, pages K2-K3]


6. Chomsky was one of the chief deniers of the Cambodian genocide of the 1970s, which took place in the wake of the Communist victory and American withdrawal from Indochina. He directed vitriolic attacks towards the reporters and witnesses who testified to the human catastrophe that was taking place there. Initially, Chomsky tried to minimize the deaths (a “few thousand”) and compared those killed by Pol Pot and his followers to the collaborators who had been executed by resistance movements in Europe at the end of World War II.
By 1980, however, it was no longer possible to deny that some 2 million of Cambodia's 7.8 million people had perished at the hands of the Communists. But Professor Chomsky continued to deny the genocide, proposing that the underlying problem may have been a failure of the rice crop. As late as 1988, Chomsky returned to the subject and insisted that whatever had happened in Cambodia, the U.S. was to blame.

a. This conclusion is the principal theme of what may be loosely termed Chomsky's intellectual oeuvre: Whatever evil exists in the world, the United States is to blame. His intellectual obsession is America and its “grand strategy of world domination.” In 1967 Professor Chomsky wrote that America “needed a kind of denazification.” The Third Reich has provided him with his central metaphor for his own country ever since.

b. The Soviet dictatorship was not only "morally equivalent" to democratic America, in Chomsky’s view, but actually better because it was less powerful. The chief sin of Stalinism in his eyes was not the murder of millions, but the fact that he had given socialism a bad name.
Noam Chomsky - Discover the Networks

What kind of buffoon would use Chomsky as a source of knowledge?

Yup....government schooling.

I admire Chomsky's intelligence but I'm not a Chomsky sheep. I don't use Chomsky as my only source nor do I adhere to his every word.

But let's stick to the thread topic....

Why?

You've already lost any cachet on the subject when you wrote "I'm fully aware of the statistics neocons use to support the myth of Reagan."

There is no myth.....every everything in the post was documented.

Your use of Chomsky, even though you are attempting to repent now, is the dispositive event.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Forbes?

jesus your brain washed

Oh....gee....you don't read Forbes?


How about this?
You've heard of the US government, haven't you?


“As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.” US Department of the Treasury

1. The benefits from Reaganomics:

a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
b. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
c. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) FDsys - Browse ERP

f. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116

Ms. Truthie....where did you scurry off to???

Did I scare you away with these facts?



The last time you disappeared like that was when Dorothy dumped a pail of water on you.

 

[Wry Catcher]

1. "Everyone loves the '80s — even those who didn't live through it.
From the bad hair and loud clothing to the politicians and leaders — a new survey shows that three-quarters of Americans believe the country was better off in the '80s than now.

2. So what defined the beloved '80s?
Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, Princess Diana, Cabbage Patch Kids, Rubik's Cubes, Pac-Man, Super Mario Bros., Reese's Pieces and dance moves like the Robot and Moonwalk.

3. As for the decade's most significant moment, about 37% of those surveyed listed the fall of the Berlin Wall, 24% said the identification of AIDS, and 17% said the Challenger explosion.

4. More than half of the nation thinks that the personal computer has had the biggest impact on American life today with the cellphone coming in at 27%. The microwave, Walkman and VCR all ranked around 5%.

5. Michael Jackson was named by 60% of Americans as the musician from the '80s... Close to half of the nation, 46%, believes that the naming of Sandra Day O'Connor to the Supreme Court was a more important '80s milestone for women than Sally Ride going to space,...


And....


6. When asked if a presidential election were held today, 58% said they would vote for Reagan over Barack Obama."
'Cheers' to the '80s: We'd zap back if we could)

Gee, was I wrong? I thought you believed the 1880's was nirvana. No unions, few regulations, no income tax, a poll taxes to keep the, uh ... um ... Rif Raff(?) from voting, small government - no FDA, no CDC, no FBI. The wonderful Gilded Age, when the ultra rich stayed filthy rich and the rest of the nation died broke (or nearly so).

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. "Everyone loves the '80s — even those who didn't live through it.
From the bad hair and loud clothing to the politicians and leaders — a new survey shows that three-quarters of Americans believe the country was better off in the '80s than now.

2. So what defined the beloved '80s?
Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, Princess Diana, Cabbage Patch Kids, Rubik's Cubes, Pac-Man, Super Mario Bros., Reese's Pieces and dance moves like the Robot and Moonwalk.

3. As for the decade's most significant moment, about 37% of those surveyed listed the fall of the Berlin Wall, 24% said the identification of AIDS, and 17% said the Challenger explosion.

4. More than half of the nation thinks that the personal computer has had the biggest impact on American life today with the cellphone coming in at 27%. The microwave, Walkman and VCR all ranked around 5%.

5. Michael Jackson was named by 60% of Americans as the musician from the '80s... Close to half of the nation, 46%, believes that the naming of Sandra Day O'Connor to the Supreme Court was a more important '80s milestone for women than Sally Ride going to space,...


And....


6. When asked if a presidential election were held today, 58% said they would vote for Reagan over Barack Obama."
'Cheers' to the '80s: We'd zap back if we could)

Gee, was I wrong? I thought you believed the 1880's was nirvana. No unions, few regulations, no income tax, a poll taxes to keep the, uh ... um ... Rif Raff(?) from voting, small government - no FDA, no CDC, no FBI. The wonderful Gilded Age, when the ultra rich stayed filthy rich and the rest of the nation died broke (or nearly so).

Did you actually begin with "Gee, was I wrong?"????


Even you can't be that incognizant.


You provided me with the gift "Gee, was I wrong?"


Of course you're wrong!!!!


You're always wrong!!!
If I had a folder filled with your erroneous posts, I could stand on it to change a light bulb!
Be honest...the only time you were ever right was when you ordered the Rootin'-tootin' Fresh 'n Fruitin' Breakfast at IHOP!



"Gee, was I wrong?"
Here's a clue: look down- do your socks match???
Heck...do your shoes match???
See what I mean.


But you're not totally useless....you could be used as a model for someone who wanted to build an idiot.



On the other hand...you could redeem some inkling of respect.....all you have to do is prove the charges you made in the post.

Otherwise....your perfect record of ineptitude remains unblemished.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

The 1980s: ten years that confirmed what Nixon, Ford and Carter caused rational Americans suspect: the nation was in decline.

The evidence
1. Michael Jackson
2. Reagan
3. Thatcher
4. Neocons
5. Milken
6. Big hair

 

[Old Rocks]

1. "Everyone loves the '80s — even those who didn't live through it.
From the bad hair and loud clothing to the politicians and leaders — a new survey shows that three-quarters of Americans believe the country was better off in the '80s than now.

2. So what defined the beloved '80s?
Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, Princess Diana, Cabbage Patch Kids, Rubik's Cubes, Pac-Man, Super Mario Bros., Reese's Pieces and dance moves like the Robot and Moonwalk.

3. As for the decade's most significant moment, about 37% of those surveyed listed the fall of the Berlin Wall, 24% said the identification of AIDS, and 17% said the Challenger explosion.

4. More than half of the nation thinks that the personal computer has had the biggest impact on American life today with the cellphone coming in at 27%. The microwave, Walkman and VCR all ranked around 5%.

5. Michael Jackson was named by 60% of Americans as the musician from the '80s... Close to half of the nation, 46%, believes that the naming of Sandra Day O'Connor to the Supreme Court was a more important '80s milestone for women than Sally Ride going to space,...


And....


6. When asked if a presidential election were held today, 58% said they would vote for Reagan over Barack Obama."
'Cheers' to the '80s: We'd zap back if we could)

It's amazing that things are so bad now that we could look back on the 80s with this kind of nostalgia. We forget the rampage of AIDS, the devastating Blood/Crip wars and the invasion of crack cocaine. As bad as it was then, it is so much worse now, that the 80s developed a kind of sweetness.

Oh bullshit. Bad at present for those that cling to old bullshit ideas about people's "places". You know, a 'black man in the White House'. A woman being his major competition for the Presidency. All kinds of people that aren't old, white, and fat making major decisions for us all at present. How horrible for the 'old school'.

 

[Truthseeker420]

Forbes?

jesus your brain washed

Oh....gee....you don't read Forbes?


How about this?
You've heard of the US government, haven't you?


“As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.” US Department of the Treasury

1. The benefits from Reaganomics:

a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
b. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
c. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) FDsys - Browse ERP

f. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116

a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)

Reagan tripled the national debt

Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%

Americans had no money so low demand lowered inflation, until Reagan could flood America with cheap Chinese crap.

Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)

Yes, plenty of minimum wage Walmart jobs, unemployment was as high as 11 % under Reagan.

d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95)

Again the 1% Transnational corporations did fine under Reaganomics

 

[PoliticalChic]

Forbes?

jesus your brain washed

Oh....gee....you don't read Forbes?


How about this?
You've heard of the US government, haven't you?


“As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.” US Department of the Treasury

1. The benefits from Reaganomics:

a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
b. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
c. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) FDsys - Browse ERP

f. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116

Reagan tripled the national debt



Americans had no money so low demand lowered inflation, until Reagan could flood America with cheap Chinese crap.

Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)

Yes, plenty of minimum wage Walmart jobs, unemployment was as high as 11 % under Reagan.

d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95)

Again the 1% Transnational corporations did fine under Reaganomics

1. Gee....thanks for your bloviations!
What is that...stream of unconsciousness?

What's remains, but for me to enroll you in the Federal Wit-Less Protection Program.




2. I provide specific documented data based on government tables....you, 'Is not, is not.'





3.'His policies worked spectacularly! The Reagan recovery started officially in November of 1982 and lasted 92 months without any more than a shallow, short recession, until July 1990, when tax increases of the ’92 budget deal killed it.
Robert Bartley, “The Seven Fat Years,” p. 135, 144.




4. This was a new record for the longest peacetime expansion, the previous being 58 months. During this seven year recovery, the economy grew by nearly one third.
The poverty rate, which had started to rise under Carter, declined every year from 1984 to 1989, dropping by one sixth from its peak. http://www.presidentreagan.info/poverty.cfm






5. And now, if I may paraphrase Edmond Rostand...as I end my refrain....thrust home:

Let’s be clear: the broadest and most accurate measure of living standard is real per capita consumption. That measure soared by 74% from 1980 to 2004. The Equality Of Reaganomics - Forbes
http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb...ce=N&AllYearsChk=YES&Update=Update&JavaBox=no

a. A study of table 7.1 would show that between 1973 and 2004, it doubled. And between 1929 and 2004, real per capita consumption by American workers increased five fold. The fastest growth periods were 1983-1990 and 1992-2004, known as the Reagan boom.

b. For those who insist that wealth has fallen, this in a discussion of the recession:
“The decline in home prices and stock portfolios in 2008 wiped out gains in net worth from the previous three years, the Fed said. Median household net worth increased 17.7 percent between 2004 and 2007, but fell 3.2 percent from 2004 through last October, according to the Federal Reserve's Survey of Consumer Finances.” Average American Net Worth Drops 23% - CBS News

c.”Today, the country has gone a long way toward an appearance of classlessness. Americans of all sorts are awash in luxuries that would have dazzled their grandparents.
“http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/15/national/class/OVERVIEW-FINAL.html?pagewanted=all

Thanks to the magnificent Ronaldus Maximus!
'Put Ron on the Rock!'





So what have we learned today?

Simply that, as is the case of so very many of Leftists, blinded by both the fear of giving deserved credit to the successful conservative programs, and of making a hero of the man who ended your vaunted, but failed Soviet communist experiment....

....you decline to acknowledge truth.


Folks like you have "both oars in the water", but they're on the same side of the boat!
And it's the Left side!