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People may have missed it because the media refuses to talk about it except in negative terms.
Everyone's talking about the 15% tariff rate. But they're missing the massive shift happening behind the scenes.
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Twisted Gypsy Child
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**** of MAGA. Trump has no one to blame but himself. I explained why. Summary Trump and his son rallied the MAGAs on "we are going to release the client list" "bad people on that list" I posted all the videos. YOU look for it. Now the shit hits the fan and "no list" and then "list" this is TRUMPs **** up. Poor handling of communication. Trump owns it, and you own it.
Twisted Gypsy Child
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**** you as well MAGA skank
jknowgood
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Trump wanted to release all the files, Democrats voted against it. Why? Look it up. If course they talk the talk, but vote differently. Like I said if there was anything to get Trump. He would be gone, that would be a lot easier than trying to kill him.
Winco
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Here is what is being said.
1. What the Deal Actually Says
- The European Union announced a plan to purchase $750 billion in U.S. energy products—notably oil, LNG (liquefied natural gas), and nuclear fuel—over the next three years (roughly $250 billion per year) by 2028Wikipedia+15The White House+15POLITICO+15The Wall Street Journal+3ICIS Explore+3Kpler+3.
- This commitment is a framework political agreement, not a legally binding contract. It coincides with a broader trade deal under which the U.S. imposed 15% tariffs on most EU exports, avoiding a threatened 30% The Guardian+8Financial Times+8ICIS Explore+8.
2. What Constitutes the $750 B Energy Mix?
- Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) and crude oil are expected to form the bulk of the purchases.
- Nuclear fuel is explicitly referenced as part of the deal by European and industry officials ICIS ExploreNucNetAdvanced Biofuels USA.
3. Expert Assessment: Can the EU Meet This Target?
Multiple energy analysts and institutions raise serious doubts:- Current reality: In 2024, the EU imported only around $78–80 billion in total U.S. energy (oil, gas, coal). That means the pledge implies more than tripling current levels in just three yearsAxios+12Kpler+12MarketWatch+12MarketWatch+1IEEFA+1.
- Market constraints: U.S. LNG export capacity would likely have to double by 2028 to support such volumes, and EU refineries may be unable to process U.S. crude blends beyond existing levels (capped around 13–14% share)POLITICO+1Tasnim News+1.
- Legal and commercial limits: The EU cannot mandate that private companies buy U.S. energy unless backed by law or strong economic incentives. Most energy procurements are market-driven, not centrally controlledKplereuobserver.comPOLITICO.
4. Summary Table
| Element | Details |
|---|---|
| Timeframe | ~3 years (ending by 2028) |
| Annual target | ~$250 billion/year |
| Magnitude vs 2024 imports | ≈4× current levels ($78–80 billion/year) |
| Product types | Oil, LNG, nuclear fuel |
| Enforcement | Non-binding framework; dependent on private buyers |
| Feasibility concerns | Infrastructure limits, EU refinery compatibility, energy demand trends, legal constraints, decarbonization policy in EU |
5. Bottom Line
While politically significant, the $750 billion energy commitment is considered by many experts to be unrealisticgiven current market conditions. The gap between historic EU energy imports from the U.S. and the pledge is substantial, and without binding enforcement mechanisms, it's unclear whether EU companies will meet such levels. Analysts describe the deal more as a symbolic gesture to avert higher tariffs rather than a practical roadmap for energy procurement The Wall Street Journal+3ICIS Explore+3Kpler+3Tasnim News+1NucNet+1The Wall Street JournalPOLITICO+1Tasnim News+1.
John Edgar Slow Horses
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We have a statement he took a shower with her. That's all we have.
We know what kin of animal is Trump.
Time will tell. And what Biden did or did not do has nothing to do with Trump.
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jknowgood
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A statement written by her and two people were arrested for stealing it. If it wasn't real, why did they go to jail? Yes, that's all we have. Telling a victim, she is a liar.
John Edgar Slow Horses
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It does not matter as far as it goes with Trump.
He is out there digging his own political grave.
j-mac
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Are you saying you could be convinced to vote for a republican if it weren’t Trump?
I seriously doubt that.
Twisted Gypsy Child
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do you know what happens to the price of Natural gas when they export more of itHere is what is being said.
- The European Union announced a plan to purchase $750 billion in U.S. energy products—notably oil, LNG (liquefied natural gas), and nuclear fuel—over the next three years (roughly $250 billion per year) by 2028Wikipedia+15The White House+15POLITICO+15The Wall Street Journal+3ICIS Explore+3Kpler+3.
- This commitment is a framework political agreement, not a legally binding contract. It coincides with a broader trade deal under which the U.S. imposed 15% tariffs on most EU exports, avoiding a threatened 30% The Guardian+8Financial Times+8ICIS Explore+8.
The agreement has not provided detailed allocations by sector nor specific sourcing volumes or price mechanisms. Officials say those details will be worked out in coming weeks New York Post+14ICIS Explore+14Advanced Biofuels USA+14.
- Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) and crude oil are expected to form the bulk of the purchases.
- Nuclear fuel is explicitly referenced as part of the deal by European and industry officials ICIS ExploreNucNetAdvanced Biofuels USA.
Multiple energy analysts and institutions raise serious doubts:
- Current reality: In 2024, the EU imported only around $78–80 billion in total U.S. energy (oil, gas, coal). That means the pledge implies more than tripling current levels in just three yearsAxios+12Kpler+12MarketWatch+12MarketWatch+1IEEFA+1.
- Market constraints: U.S. LNG export capacity would likely have to double by 2028 to support such volumes, and EU refineries may be unable to process U.S. crude blends beyond existing levels (capped around 13–14% share)POLITICO+1Tasnim News+1.
- Legal and commercial limits: The EU cannot mandate that private companies buy U.S. energy unless backed by law or strong economic incentives. Most energy procurements are market-driven, not centrally controlledKplereuobserver.comPOLITICO.
Element Details Timeframe ~3 years (ending by 2028) Annual target ~$250 billion/year Magnitude vs 2024 imports ≈4× current levels ($78–80 billion/year) Product types Oil, LNG, nuclear fuel Enforcement Non-binding framework; dependent on private buyers Feasibility concerns Infrastructure limits, EU refinery compatibility, energy demand trends, legal constraints, decarbonization policy in EU
While politically significant, the $750 billion energy commitment is considered by many experts to be unrealisticgiven current market conditions. The gap between historic EU energy imports from the U.S. and the pledge is substantial, and without binding enforcement mechanisms, it's unclear whether EU companies will meet such levels. Analysts describe the deal more as a symbolic gesture to avert higher tariffs rather than a practical roadmap for energy procurement The Wall Street Journal+3ICIS Explore+3Kpler+3Tasnim News+1NucNet+1The Wall Street JournalPOLITICO+1Tasnim News+1.
the price goes up. And that means the US Consumer pays more.
That right there is MAGA winning.
US LNG exports raise electricity bills, gas prices and emissions, DOE report concludes
Increasing natural gas exports “exposes a triple-cost increase to U.S. consumers,” Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm said.
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You choose to play hardball. Now, more and more of my fellow Americans are waking up to that fact and realizing that they need to stop playing nice with people like you.
And every time you are an asshole, you are just encouraging us to show you no mercy.
Twisted Gypsy Child
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Gimp bring it
We are. And we're winning.
I assume you've heard the good news about how new voter registration is going?
The young will be maga for the rest of your life.
MAGA is on track to become the new normal.
The more of an ass you are, the more you encourage us to show no mercy.
Twisted Gypsy Child
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Laugh all you want. Barring dramatic changes, MAGA is on track to be the new normal.
Oil Output Records set in
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How exactly is Trump doing anything to drive energy output when output was already setting records and it currently is 00.12% higher than 6 months ago?
Twisted Gypsy Child
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MAGA is a perversion of normality.
Think of all the times you were an asshole over reasonable political differences in your life,
remember that, when you are tempted to whine about how we are showing you no mercy.
MAGA is likely to be the normal, for hte rest of your life.
Twisted Gypsy Child
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Trump's tarrifs are driving production down
Less US jobs in the oil patch
Though still a record high, the lower 2025 forecast comes as U.S. producers have had to navigate President Donald Trump's on-again, off-again tariffs that have sparked economic uncertainty, rising supply quotas from the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and its allies, and conflict between Iran and Israel.
US to produce less oil in 2025 than previously expected amid declining prices, EIA says
Republicans lost a seat in the house last election, lost the entire statewide offices in North Carolina, and have the smallest majority in 90 years that required the VP to tie break the Republican budget and included massive Alaska giveaways to buy the 50th vote.
That’s not a strong party. That is a party hanging on by an unraveling thread. Feel free to predict The midterms but the Pubs will need a historic performance to keep this failed experiment of morons running the government going.
