Everyone making less then 25,000 per year

[Tom Horn]

That is the problem with most of the third world on this planet...The rich say let them die but then they have to live behind gated communities as most of the country is uneducated, shitty infrastructure and there's very little demand for their products within their home country....It is retarded economics.

Didn't Barry fix our infrastructure with all those "shovel-ready" jobs?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Everyone making less then 25,000 per year should get $300 per month in food stamps and be allowed to take skill based classes at their local community college backed by the tax payers. Skill based is computer, business, or any classes that help them get a better job to boost their income upwards.

This is the right thing to do....

Time to start helping people instead of hurting them.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."
"You can't turn a sows ear in to a silk purse."

Matthew...come on man...pull your head out of your ass...please!
Loser-hood is a choice made by ignorant, lazy low-life's. The sooner you realize it the better. You'll stop trying to cover up problems with other people's money and treat the issue at the root. There are countless numbers of free resources available in this country for anyone seeking success...anyone who genuinely wants to be successful is and anyone who wants to be an unsuccessful, lazy piece of shit is.
1. Make it truly illegal and criminalize parents who allow their children to drop out of school before 12th grade.
2. Make it illegal for minors (under 21) to give birth.
**** your human rights...you have no right to steal from me by sending me the invoice for your pathetic decision making.
Problem treated at root...case closed...see how easy this is?
It's time to stop being pussies and making excuses, grab your balls and do the right thing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No what happens is people living in more progressive areas get more progressive education, people living in more conservative areas get more conservative education.

Far from true.


Almost every university is populated by the same sort.

Every poll of professors shows the same bias.

The result is a body of graduates with knowledge, but without wisdom.

You don't want people to have an education, because educated people are, by and large, liberal, and not just in the US. It's not because education has a liberal bias, it's because the history of the world is one of overcoming conservatives of the era, and pushing forward new ideas.

History is always the victory of the new over the old. Whether that's a good thing, depends on the circumstances.

The Founding Fathers were liberals because they refused to accept the status quo, and wanted freedom. Freedom is a liberal concept.

Are you an example of what you call 'educated'?
If so....you make my point about Liberal...you are clearly a dunce.


Here, let's prove it together.

The Founding Fathers were believers in these principles....
Individualism
Free Markets
Limited constitutional government

They were classical liberals, what would be called conservatives today.


Communist John Dewey prevailed on the Socialist Party to change it's name to Liberal.


. "Before WW II, the same folks who championed Progressivism, viewed fascism as a noble economic agenda, and praised Mussolini. It was the horrors of the Holocaust that required both the rapid retreat from associations with the term fascism, and the rebranding by John Dewey of progressivism as liberalism.

W.E.B.DuBois suggested that National Socialism seemed an excellent model for economic organization."
http://www.ghi-dc.org/files/publications/bu_supp/supp5/supp5_099.pdf



So...can we agree...you're a fool?

 

[PoliticalChic]

No what happens is people living in more progressive areas get more progressive education, people living in more conservative areas get more conservative education.

Far from true.

Almost every university is populated by the same sort.

Every poll of professors shows the same bias.

The result is a body of graduates with knowledge, but without wisdom.

The result is a body of graduates who can think for themselves and reject your Ayn Rand notions of greed and selfishness.

What's your beef with conservative principles....these:

Individualism
Free Markets
Limited constitutional government


Why your love affair with these:

the collective,
command and control regulation of private industry,
and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life..
......right down to control of his thoughts and speech.



Don't you realize that you're a Fascist?

 

[kaz]

No what happens is people living in more progressive areas get more progressive education, people living in more conservative areas get more conservative education.

Far from true.

Almost every university is populated by the same sort.

Every poll of professors shows the same bias.

The result is a body of graduates with knowledge, but without wisdom.

The result is a body of graduates who can think for themselves and reject your Ayn Rand notions of greed and selfishness.

What's your beef with conservative principles....these:

Individualism
Free Markets
Limited constitutional government


Why your love affair with these:

the collective,
command and control regulation of private industry,
and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life..
......right down to control of his thoughts and speech.



Don't you realize that you're a Fascist?

Mrs. Mao is a piece of work, isn't she? Education shows us that we can't take care of ourselves and we need government to do it for us. Not like the ignorant masses who don't get a higher education who live in a delusional world thinking they don't need government help.

She's not a communist for nothing

 

[Preacher]

Everyone making less then 25,000 per year should get $300...

Feel free to use your own money.

ALL tax dollars are already used for welfare instead of workfare and training,they are used for illegal wars,foreign aide to keep nations friendly etc. Time to think outside the same ole box.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No what happens is people living in more progressive areas get more progressive education, people living in more conservative areas get more conservative education.

Far from true.

Almost every university is populated by the same sort.

Every poll of professors shows the same bias.

The result is a body of graduates with knowledge, but without wisdom.

The result is a body of graduates who can think for themselves and reject your Ayn Rand notions of greed and selfishness.

What's your beef with conservative principles....these:

Individualism
Free Markets
Limited constitutional government


Why your love affair with these:

the collective,
command and control regulation of private industry,
and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life..
......right down to control of his thoughts and speech.



Don't you realize that you're a Fascist?

Mrs. Mao is a piece of work, isn't she? Education shows us that we can't take care of ourselves and we need government to do it for us. Not like the ignorant masses who don't get a higher education who live in a delusional world thinking they don't need government help.

She's not a communist for nothing

She wears her hair in a pony tail just to hide the valve stem.

 

[Tom Horn]

She wears her hair in a pony tail just to hide the valve stem.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No what happens is people living in more progressive areas get more progressive education, people living in more conservative areas get more conservative education.

Far from true.


Almost every university is populated by the same sort.

Every poll of professors shows the same bias.

The result is a body of graduates with knowledge, but without wisdom.

You don't want people to have an education, because educated people are, by and large, liberal, and not just in the US. It's not because education has a liberal bias, it's because the history of the world is one of overcoming conservatives of the era, and pushing forward new ideas.

History is always the victory of the new over the old. Whether that's a good thing, depends on the circumstances.

The Founding Fathers were liberals because they refused to accept the status quo, and wanted freedom. Freedom is a liberal concept.

"You don't want people to have an education, because educated people are, by and large, liberal, and not just in the US. It's not because education has a liberal bias, it's because the history of the world is one of overcoming conservatives of the era, and pushing forward new ideas."


This isn't elementary school where you get a pat on the head no matter what you say.



I'm waiting, with poorly hidden impatience, for your 'educated' response to posts #163 and #164.


If you cannot......you have validated everything I regularly post of the nexus between Liberals and education: it isn't.

 

[Preacher]

Everyone making less then 25,000 per year should get $300 per month in food stamps and be allowed to take skill based classes at their local community college backed by the tax payers. Skill based is computer, business, or any classes that help them get a better job to boost their income upwards.

This is the right thing to do....

Time to start helping people instead of hurting them.

Man, you are really generous with other peoples money. You must be a Democrat.

Better look inside your own self....ALL of our tax money goes to foreign countries and towards illegal wars....why no whining about that? Do you enjoy living in a country so far behind other countries? Improve the peoples education improve the country.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Everyone making less then 25,000 per year should get $300 per month in food stamps and be allowed to take skill based classes at their local community college backed by the tax payers. Skill based is computer, business, or any classes that help them get a better job to boost their income upwards.

This is the right thing to do....

Time to start helping people instead of hurting them.

and repubs say "LET THEM DIE!"

no...your good buddy dean says that....

 

[BluesLegend]

Libs do I also have to buy your kids diapers, shoes, clothes, and school supplies? Seriously I need to know how much its going to cost me to support YOUR kids. Its getting to where I should be able to claim you people as dependents on my tax return.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I can agree with the OP, with one caveat. If you take this deal, you have a 5 year limit for food stamps and educational assistance.

And as for what sort of classes, skip the computer or business classes. The chances of that helping them is slim to none.

Give them training in a trade. Teach them skills such as plumbing, welding, laying brick, splicing fiber optics, or any one of a dozen vocational training classes that will give them a real job and a future.

I can agree with you with one caveat. If you think this is such a good idea, YOU pay for it. If the costs were placed on those that think it's a good idea, we'd see just how much they actually care.

I'm proving an education for MY children. If some kid's parents won't provide their own with an education, it damn sure isn't my place to do it regardless of the caveats. If those parents don't think their own child is a good enough investment, I sure don't.

We will all pay for it now or pay for it later. This way gives us productive citizens with actual skills.

Get Soros and Buffet to pay for it!

Or get the Universities to stop paying $300,000 for people like Clinton to speak and give that money to help people pay for school!

get the Universities to stop paying $300,000 for people like Clinton to speak and give that money to help people pay for school
dam i actually agree with kosh on this......

 

[Harry Dresden]

Anytime you have a capitalist system there will ALWAYS be those at the bottom of the triangle. Those at the top need to quit being assholes and realize that unless they do something to protect those at the bottom, they will disappear and then guess what... those at the middle will be at the bottom... and when those are gone... the next ones will be at the bottom... and so on.

The rich will be limited to gated communities within the next 100 years if the extreme conservatives ever get their way. They'll have to pay for their own roads, water infrastructure and schools as the rest of society will look like Haiti.

The rich won't be as rich either as there won't be the kind of demand a well paid population has to buy their stuff.

The rich are ******* themselves...Limiting themselves and being really stupid.

in california MANY liberals/democrats live in gated communities....and that has nothing to do with Conservatives, they are behind those gates because they want to be there....

 

[Preacher]

I take great pleasure in pissing CONservatives off....as long as they whine about poor people needing help but have no problem with their taxes going to illegal wars and foreign countries then I will do my best to keep helping people get welfare when they need it...**** the rich! If you are lucky enough to be born with a silver spoon or have the opportunities to go to college or learn a skill or know what you want to do with the rest of your life then learn to pass it on down....help others bring themselves up because then THEY pass that along to the next generation etc etc. You can either keep giving people a hand OUT as in welfare or a hand UP as in pushing for taxes to be used for teaching people a skill

 

[Preacher]

Everyone making less then 25,000 per year should get $300 per month in food stamps and be allowed to take skill based classes at their local community college backed by the tax payers. Skill based is computer, business, or any classes that help them get a better job to boost their income upwards.

This is the right thing to do....

Time to start helping people instead of hurting them.

It's time people start helping themselves instead of demanding all their miserable lives that someone else do it for them.

Guess you have no issue with your taxes helping foreigners in another country then right? Bit retarded. Lets help poor people in a foreign country but not a poor person here.

I can agree with the OP, with one caveat. If you take this deal, you have a 5 year limit for food stamps and educational assistance.

And as for what sort of classes, skip the computer or business classes. The chances of that helping them is slim to none.

Give them training in a trade. Teach them skills such as plumbing, welding, laying brick, splicing fiber optics, or any one of a dozen vocational training classes that will give them a real job and a future.

I know in West Va if you get TANF you only get it for 5 years and you MUST get a job,volunteer or attend school of some kind.

 

[Harry Dresden]

...Time to start helping people instead of hurting them.

Why? What have they ever done for me?

Aren't you the guy that just thinks that women are inferior to men anyway?

and wants to live in the 8th century.....

 

[Conservative65]

Everyone making less then 25,000 per year should get $300 per month in food stamps and be allowed to take skill based classes at their local community college backed by the tax payers. Skill based is computer, business, or any classes that help them get a better job to boost their income upwards.

This is the right thing to do....

Time to start helping people instead of hurting them.

It's time people start helping themselves instead of demanding all their miserable lives that someone else do it for them.

Guess you have no issue with your taxes helping foreigners in another country then right? Bit retarded. Lets help poor people in a foreign country but not a poor person here.

I can agree with the OP, with one caveat. If you take this deal, you have a 5 year limit for food stamps and educational assistance.

And as for what sort of classes, skip the computer or business classes. The chances of that helping them is slim to none.

Give them training in a trade. Teach them skills such as plumbing, welding, laying brick, splicing fiber optics, or any one of a dozen vocational training classes that will give them a real job and a future.

I know in West Va if you get TANF you only get it for 5 years and you MUST get a job,volunteer or attend school of some kind.

No, let's let that foreign country help their poor people as they see fit and you provide anything you wish to a poor person using your money.

 

[Conservative65]

I can agree with the OP, with one caveat. If you take this deal, you have a 5 year limit for food stamps and educational assistance.

And as for what sort of classes, skip the computer or business classes. The chances of that helping them is slim to none.

Give them training in a trade. Teach them skills such as plumbing, welding, laying brick, splicing fiber optics, or any one of a dozen vocational training classes that will give them a real job and a future.

I can agree with you with one caveat. If you think this is such a good idea, YOU pay for it. If the costs were placed on those that think it's a good idea, we'd see just how much they actually care.

I'm proving an education for MY children. If some kid's parents won't provide their own with an education, it damn sure isn't my place to do it regardless of the caveats. If those parents don't think their own child is a good enough investment, I sure don't.

We will all pay for it now or pay for it later. This way gives us productive citizens with actual skills.

Get Soros and Buffet to pay for it!

Or get the Universities to stop paying $300,000 for people like Clinton to speak and give that money to help people pay for school!

get the Universities to stop paying $300,000 for people like Clinton to speak and give that money to help people pay for school
dam i actually agree with kosh on this......

If Hillary truly believed in what she said about funding college for those that can't afford it, she'd voluntarily do that without the universities having to do a thing.

 

[Preacher]

Everyone making less then 25,000 per year should get $300 per month in food stamps and be allowed to take skill based classes at their local community college backed by the tax payers. Skill based is computer, business, or any classes that help them get a better job to boost their income upwards.

This is the right thing to do....

Time to start helping people instead of hurting them.

It's time people start helping themselves instead of demanding all their miserable lives that someone else do it for them.

Guess you have no issue with your taxes helping foreigners in another country then right? Bit retarded. Lets help poor people in a foreign country but not a poor person here.

I can agree with the OP, with one caveat. If you take this deal, you have a 5 year limit for food stamps and educational assistance.

And as for what sort of classes, skip the computer or business classes. The chances of that helping them is slim to none.

Give them training in a trade. Teach them skills such as plumbing, welding, laying brick, splicing fiber optics, or any one of a dozen vocational training classes that will give them a real job and a future.

I know in West Va if you get TANF you only get it for 5 years and you MUST get a job,volunteer or attend school of some kind.

No, let's let that foreign country help their poor people as they see fit and you provide anything you wish to a poor person using your money.

Do conservatives REALLY not understand that ALL of our taxes go wherever the government says and not where WE say they should go? I really overestimate the IQ of most people obviously...things I realize as OBVIOUS,must not be as obvious to everyone else which is just sad. I see the value in BOOSTING people UP with teaching them skills others I guess don't. They complain about welfare that comes from our taxes and isn't going to end but don't want to end that by pushing for the taxes to go towards teaching a skill instead of just giving away welfare.