Every 26k years the climate changes. Who's fault is this?

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Was animal skin clad man responsible?
Many people like to pretend that man hunted many animals to extinction but history says otherwise. Most species on our great marble have gone extinct without ever interacting with man. The wooly mammoth is a good example. Yes the great beast did exist along side man BUT man didn't kill off the mammoth. Contrary to popular belief most paleontologists don't believe man killed them off despite the liberal teachings we've been taught. Most of them hypothesize that the mammoth was killed off due to two things. Radical climate change and viruses. A rapid warming trend that saw the ice sheets recede was likely the culprit for their ultimate demise.

The earth rotates on its tilted axis and has a distinct wobble. That wobble has a cyclical clock that determines how and when the earth shifts (causing climate changes)
Add to that tremendous solar storms and flares that can and do have a radical impact on our magnetic field and you have a recipe for wild weather changes.
Not only that but those magnetic field changes have been so radical in the past that our North & South poles have swapped positions many times throughout earth's history. That fact has been proven by traces of our earths magnetism being recorded in bedrock going in opposite directions. Sometimes the change in magnetism is observable in the earth's crust in just a few feet which represents an incredibly short period.

While I do agree that man probably does have a minuscule impact on our earths climate overall the earth itself tells us geologically that we are small potatoes.

 

[Kosh]

CO2 never has controlled climate and it never will..

60+ years and trillions of dollars spent to prove it is man, yet less than few hundred million to actually study and figure how the climate engine of the Earth works..

After all that money and time spent, they still do not understand how the climate system works. Yet it has to be "man made".

The only ting "man made" is the debunked claim.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Yea but modern man has to be causing climate change because the internal combustion engine uses fossil fuels and that heat never happened before, duh. # liberal logic

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

 

[Ridgerunner]

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

 

[MisterBeale]

Huh.

With all these stupid global warming threads, I wasn't aware anyone on this forum knew the truth.

Nice thread.

Whenever one of those insane threads comes up, they should be linked back to this one.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I honestly believe that BOTH sides are clueless. The fear mongers cling to the frauds and the right cling to people like me who have just enough knowledge to be dangerous to anyone who will listen.
While I clearly don't have all the answers or even a hint of the knowledge needed to make a conclusive statement, what I do have is a curious mind. I have looke at both positions in depth and done TONS OF RESEARCH, some intentional and some from sheer curiosity.
I see evidence that we are obviously soiling our blue marble but I also see evidence that we think far more of our abilities than we deserve.
Earth has gone from a molten rock to a piece of ice to a tropical climate. None of those changes had anything to do with man and everything to do with that word that the right hates, evolution.
That evolution is not complete. Our planet still has a molten core and until that core has died our evolution is incomplete.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I honestly believe that BOTH sides are clueless. The fear mongers cling to the frauds and the right cling to people like me who have just enough knowledge to be dangerous to anyone who will listen.
While I clearly don't have all the answers or even a hint of the knowledge needed to make a conclusive statement, what I do have is a curious mind. I have looke at both positions in depth and done TONS OF RESEARCH, some intentional and some from sheer curiosity.
I see evidence that we are obviously soiling our blue marble but I also see evidence that we think far more of our abilities than we deserve.
Earth has gone from a molten rock to a piece of ice to a tropical climate. None of those changes had anything to do with man and everything to do with that word that the right hates, evolution.
That evolution is not complete. Our planet still has a molten core and until that core has died our evolution is incomplete.

I agree, to an extent, with your basic premise.

Humans are not the cause of everything bad that has ever happened. We are not masters of this planet - there are things well beyond our control, and our moral responsibility.

But that doesn't change the fact that we are in control of some things we do - and therefore have a moral responsibility for what we can control.

 

[toobfreak]

Was animal skin clad man responsible?
Many people like to pretend that man hunted many animals to extinction but history says otherwise. Most species on our great marble have gone extinct without ever interacting with man. The wooly mammoth is a good example. Yes the great beast did exist along side man BUT man didn't kill off the mammoth. Contrary to popular belief most paleontologists don't believe man killed them off despite the liberal teachings we've been taught. Most of them hypothesize that the mammoth was killed off due to two things. Radical climate change and viruses. A rapid warming trend that saw the ice sheets recede was likely the culprit for their ultimate demise.

The earth rotates on its tilted axis and has a distinct wobble. That wobble has a cyclical clock that determines how and when the earth shifts (causing climate changes)
Add to that tremendous solar storms and flares that can and do have a radical impact on our magnetic field and you have a recipe for wild weather changes.
Not only that but those magnetic field changes have been so radical in the past that our North & South poles have swapped positions many times throughout earth's history. That fact has been proven by traces of our earths magnetism being recorded in bedrock going in opposite directions. Sometimes the change in magnetism is observable in the earth's crust in just a few feet which represents an incredibly short period.

While I do agree that man probably does have a minuscule impact on our earths climate overall the earth itself tells us geologically that we are small potatoes.

What you are referring to is but one of three main Milankovitch Cycles, which account for most climate changes, along with cycles in the Sun:

Milankovitch cycles - Wikipedia

Not whether a few cars in LA get 24 mpg rather than 36. Sprinkle in there the occasional volcanic eruption and asteroid impact and you have 99% of climate change covered.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I honestly believe that BOTH sides are clueless. The fear mongers cling to the frauds and the right cling to people like me who have just enough knowledge to be dangerous to anyone who will listen.
While I clearly don't have all the answers or even a hint of the knowledge needed to make a conclusive statement, what I do have is a curious mind. I have looke at both positions in depth and done TONS OF RESEARCH, some intentional and some from sheer curiosity.
I see evidence that we are obviously soiling our blue marble but I also see evidence that we think far more of our abilities than we deserve.
Earth has gone from a molten rock to a piece of ice to a tropical climate. None of those changes had anything to do with man and everything to do with that word that the right hates, evolution.
That evolution is not complete. Our planet still has a molten core and until that core has died our evolution is incomplete.

I agree, to an extent, with your basic premise.

Humans are not the cause of everything bad that has ever happened. We are not masters of this planet - there are things well beyond our control, and our moral responsibility.

But that doesn't change the fact that we are in control of some things we do - and therefore have a moral responsibility for what we can control.

Without a doubt agree.

I have a disgusting habit. I've smoked my entire life. A few years ago I stopped throwing my butts out the window. I used to do it without giving it a second thought just because I didn't want to smell it in my vehicle.
Now I see that was a terrible thing. Not because it was a threat to the earth but because if it wasn't good enough for me I had no business making it someone else's problem.

But I will admit when my ashtray gets too many in it I still toss one on occasion. But when I do I always feel bad lol

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I honestly believe that BOTH sides are clueless. The fear mongers cling to the frauds and the right cling to people like me who have just enough knowledge to be dangerous to anyone who will listen.
While I clearly don't have all the answers or even a hint of the knowledge needed to make a conclusive statement, what I do have is a curious mind. I have looke at both positions in depth and done TONS OF RESEARCH, some intentional and some from sheer curiosity.
I see evidence that we are obviously soiling our blue marble but I also see evidence that we think far more of our abilities than we deserve.
Earth has gone from a molten rock to a piece of ice to a tropical climate. None of those changes had anything to do with man and everything to do with that word that the right hates, evolution.
That evolution is not complete. Our planet still has a molten core and until that core has died our evolution is incomplete.

I agree, to an extent, with your basic premise.

Humans are not the cause of everything bad that has ever happened. We are not masters of this planet - there are things well beyond our control, and our moral responsibility.

But that doesn't change the fact that we are in control of some things we do - and therefore have a moral responsibility for what we can control.

Without a doubt agree.

I have a disgusting habit. I've smoked my entire life. A few years ago I stopped throwing my butts out the window. I used to do it without giving it a second thought just because I didn't want to smell it in my vehicle.
Now I see that was a terrible thing. Not because it was a threat to the earth but because if it wasn't good enough for me I had no business making it someone else's problem.

But I will admit when my ashtray gets too many in it I still toss one on occasion. But when I do I always feel bad lol

I have the same disgusting habit. I don't drive, so I don't spend much time throwing cigarettes out the window- but I have for most of my life thrown my butts into the street as I walk around.

I've gotten better about it - but it still happens.

 

[MisterBeale]

I honestly believe that BOTH sides are clueless. The fear mongers cling to the frauds and the right cling to people like me who have just enough knowledge to be dangerous to anyone who will listen.
While I clearly don't have all the answers or even a hint of the knowledge needed to make a conclusive statement, what I do have is a curious mind. I have looke at both positions in depth and done TONS OF RESEARCH, some intentional and some from sheer curiosity.
I see evidence that we are obviously soiling our blue marble but I also see evidence that we think far more of our abilities than we deserve.
Earth has gone from a molten rock to a piece of ice to a tropical climate. None of those changes had anything to do with man and everything to do with that word that the right hates, evolution.
That evolution is not complete. Our planet still has a molten core and until that core has died our evolution is incomplete.

Everything you wrote is spot on. We have a lot of air pollution, but Co2 is not among it.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I honestly believe that BOTH sides are clueless. The fear mongers cling to the frauds and the right cling to people like me who have just enough knowledge to be dangerous to anyone who will listen.
While I clearly don't have all the answers or even a hint of the knowledge needed to make a conclusive statement, what I do have is a curious mind. I have looke at both positions in depth and done TONS OF RESEARCH, some intentional and some from sheer curiosity.
I see evidence that we are obviously soiling our blue marble but I also see evidence that we think far more of our abilities than we deserve.
Earth has gone from a molten rock to a piece of ice to a tropical climate. None of those changes had anything to do with man and everything to do with that word that the right hates, evolution.
That evolution is not complete. Our planet still has a molten core and until that core has died our evolution is incomplete.

I agree, to an extent, with your basic premise.

Humans are not the cause of everything bad that has ever happened. We are not masters of this planet - there are things well beyond our control, and our moral responsibility.

But that doesn't change the fact that we are in control of some things we do - and therefore have a moral responsibility for what we can control.

Without a doubt agree.

I have a disgusting habit. I've smoked my entire life. A few years ago I stopped throwing my butts out the window. I used to do it without giving it a second thought just because I didn't want to smell it in my vehicle.
Now I see that was a terrible thing. Not because it was a threat to the earth but because if it wasn't good enough for me I had no business making it someone else's problem.

But I will admit when my ashtray gets too many in it I still toss one on occasion. But when I do I always feel bad lol

I have the same disgusting habit. I don't drive, so I don't spend much time throwing cigarettes out the window- but I have for most of my life thrown my butts into the street as I walk around.

I've gotten better about it - but it still happens.

My employees think I'm a freak when it comes to cigarette butts. If I see a but in the customers driveway or within a half a driveways length I will actually pick it up and do two things.

I throw it in my truck bed after checking it for brand labeling lol

If it matches what they smoke I come unglued.