Evangelical Christians Must Pay For Trading Faith For Power, Morality Lost Forever

[The Irish Ram]

Republicans like to pretend they are the moral authority but the evidence shows they are the worst of two evils. Justice democrats are at least trying to salvage the democratic party from ruin.

Christians, especially evangelical christians will continue to believe their own lies long after they get their heads handed to them in the upcoming civil war.

Come get some, boy....

 

[ding]

White Evangelical Christians en masse and other Christians voting for the likes of Donald Trump and Roy Moore have done irreparable damage to their faith. They now have absolutely no moral authority outside the cult they have become.

Evangelical Christians must pay for trading faith for power, morality lost forever

They have done just that, outed themselves entirely on their phoney claim to be Christians. They are not Christians. You cannot support a self-admitted sexual predator and support an accused pedophile and call yourself a Christian.

The catholic church has been doing that for hundreds of years.

You do realize that the problem was a reflection of society and peaked in the 1960's through the 1980's, right?

And that it was largely a homosexual problem, right? That there were about 200 actual pedophiles who fit the predator profile and they are all in prison, right?

And that the majority of the other 4,500 priests engaged in one off sex with teenage boys which ran the gamete from kissing and fondling to intercourse, right?

I know a lot about the church. The physical an psychological abuse is done openly. They chose to hide the sexual abuse.

Do you know a lot about the data from the scandal? Because I do.

I believe your view is based more upon emotion than it is the facts.

I don't condone what happened. Society in the 50's should not have ostracized homosexuals so that entering the Church as priests was an attractive escape. The Church should have never allowed homosexuals into the Church just because they were being ostracized by society. Society should have never had the free love movement which pushed the boundaries beyond the standard established by nature. The priests themselves should have never joined the Church for the wrong reasons and certainly shouldn't have broken their vows when they did. And the administrators should have never covered it up when they found out.

But all of those things did happen. There's lots of blame to go around. It's really really easy to be a Monday morning quarterback from the sanctity of a high horse. Just make sure you don't fall off yours while you cherry pick the data to feed your emotional reactions.

 

[Correll]

The Sons of Liberty were considered violent thugs too because they had the balls to stand up to king George and his East India Company. The U.S. has become what the founders fought and died to free themselves from.

Your flawed analogy does nothing to dispute that Antifa, today, and as pictured are violent fascist thugs.


Though thank you for your tacit admission that you see America as your enemy.


Do you have the Moral Courage to admit that all Americans who do not share you view of America as an Evil,


should consider you and yours as their enemies?

You can defend government all you want. That's exactly how we became a police state.

Do you consider all loyal Americans to be your enemy?


Should all normal, loyal Americans consider you their enemy?

Define loyalist. The founders defeated the loyalist to win independents which led to the Bill of Rights.

Don't play games. Loyal to the government you define as your enemy.


Should normal, loyal, Americans consider you their enemy?

Bump. Still waiting for an honest answer.

 

[antifa]

The Sons of Liberty were considered violent thugs too because they had the balls to stand up to king George and his East India Company. The U.S. has become what the founders fought and died to free themselves from.

Your flawed analogy does nothing to dispute that Antifa, today, and as pictured are violent fascist thugs.


Though thank you for your tacit admission that you see America as your enemy.


Do you have the Moral Courage to admit that all Americans who do not share you view of America as an Evil,


should consider you and yours as their enemies?

You can defend government all you want. That's exactly how we became a police state.

Do you consider all loyal Americans to be your enemy?


Should all normal, loyal Americans consider you their enemy?

Define loyalist. The founders defeated the loyalist to win independents which led to the Bill of Rights.

Don't play games. Loyal to the government you define as your enemy.


Should normal, loyal, Americans consider you their enemy?

Normal Americans are finally waking up to the fact that government is corrupt beyond the tipping point. Voting doesn't work so revolt is inevitable.

Being loyal to a corrupt government makes you part of the problem with no interest in a solution.

 

[antifa]

Your flawed analogy does nothing to dispute that Antifa, today, and as pictured are violent fascist thugs.


Though thank you for your tacit admission that you see America as your enemy.


Do you have the Moral Courage to admit that all Americans who do not share you view of America as an Evil,


should consider you and yours as their enemies?

You can defend government all you want. That's exactly how we became a police state.

Do you consider all loyal Americans to be your enemy?


Should all normal, loyal Americans consider you their enemy?

Define loyalist. The founders defeated the loyalist to win independents which led to the Bill of Rights.

Don't play games. Loyal to the government you define as your enemy.


Should normal, loyal, Americans consider you their enemy?

Bump. Still waiting for an honest answer.

My life doesn't revolve around you.

 

[antifa]

White Evangelical Christians en masse and other Christians voting for the likes of Donald Trump and Roy Moore have done irreparable damage to their faith. They now have absolutely no moral authority outside the cult they have become.

Evangelical Christians must pay for trading faith for power, morality lost forever

They have done just that, outed themselves entirely on their phoney claim to be Christians. They are not Christians. You cannot support a self-admitted sexual predator and support an accused pedophile and call yourself a Christian.

The catholic church has been doing that for hundreds of years.

You do realize that the problem was a reflection of society and peaked in the 1960's through the 1980's, right?

And that it was largely a homosexual problem, right? That there were about 200 actual pedophiles who fit the predator profile and they are all in prison, right?

And that the majority of the other 4,500 priests engaged in one off sex with teenage boys which ran the gamete from kissing and fondling to intercourse, right?

I know a lot about the church. The physical an psychological abuse is done openly. They chose to hide the sexual abuse.

Do you know a lot about the data from the scandal? Because I do.

I believe your view is based more upon emotion than it is the facts.

I don't condone what happened. Society in the 50's should not have ostracized homosexuals so that entering the Church as priests was an attractive escape. The Church should have never allowed homosexuals into the Church just because they were being ostracized by society. Society should have never had the free love movement which pushed the boundaries beyond the standard established by nature. The priests themselves should have never joined the Church for the wrong reasons and certainly shouldn't have broken their vows when they did. And the administrators should have never covered it up when they found out.

But all of those things did happen. There's lots of blame to go around. It's really really easy to be a Monday morning quarterback from the sanctity of a high horse. Just make sure you don't fall off yours while you cherry pick the data to feed your emotional reactions.

Show me the data that is not garbage in garbage out.

 

[Correll]

Your flawed analogy does nothing to dispute that Antifa, today, and as pictured are violent fascist thugs.


Though thank you for your tacit admission that you see America as your enemy.


Do you have the Moral Courage to admit that all Americans who do not share you view of America as an Evil,


should consider you and yours as their enemies?

You can defend government all you want. That's exactly how we became a police state.

Do you consider all loyal Americans to be your enemy?


Should all normal, loyal Americans consider you their enemy?

Define loyalist. The founders defeated the loyalist to win independents which led to the Bill of Rights.

Don't play games. Loyal to the government you define as your enemy.


Should normal, loyal, Americans consider you their enemy?

Normal Americans are finally waking up to the fact that government is corrupt beyond the tipping point. Voting doesn't work so revolt is inevitable.

Being loyal to a corrupt government makes you part of the problem with no interest in a solution.

Normal Americans are not supporting your marxist revolution.


If you are brave enough to declare the Government your enemy, be brave enough to admit that loyal Americans, ie Americans that are not on your side in this fight of yours, are your enemy.



ie, admit that you are the Enemy of normal, loyal Americans.


If you aren't brave enough to say it, that does not bode well for you being brave enough to actually fight it.


Are you the enemy of loyal Americans?

 

[antifa]

You can defend government all you want. That's exactly how we became a police state.

Do you consider all loyal Americans to be your enemy?


Should all normal, loyal Americans consider you their enemy?

Define loyalist. The founders defeated the loyalist to win independents which led to the Bill of Rights.

Don't play games. Loyal to the government you define as your enemy.


Should normal, loyal, Americans consider you their enemy?

Normal Americans are finally waking up to the fact that government is corrupt beyond the tipping point. Voting doesn't work so revolt is inevitable.

Being loyal to a corrupt government makes you part of the problem with no interest in a solution.

Normal Americans are not supporting your marxist revolution.


If you are brave enough to declare the Government your enemy, be brave enough to admit that loyal Americans, ie Americans that are not on your side in this fight of yours, are your enemy.



ie, admit that you are the Enemy of normal, loyal Americans.


If you aren't brave enough to say it, that does not bode well for you being brave enough to actually fight it.


Are you the enemy of loyal Americans?

What part of revolt is inevitable did you not understand?

Government is depending on the drivers of the tanks in our streets to remain loyal. I'm not convinced that will happen.

 

[Correll]

Do you consider all loyal Americans to be your enemy?


Should all normal, loyal Americans consider you their enemy?

Define loyalist. The founders defeated the loyalist to win independents which led to the Bill of Rights.

Don't play games. Loyal to the government you define as your enemy.


Should normal, loyal, Americans consider you their enemy?

Normal Americans are finally waking up to the fact that government is corrupt beyond the tipping point. Voting doesn't work so revolt is inevitable.

Being loyal to a corrupt government makes you part of the problem with no interest in a solution.

Normal Americans are not supporting your marxist revolution.


If you are brave enough to declare the Government your enemy, be brave enough to admit that loyal Americans, ie Americans that are not on your side in this fight of yours, are your enemy.



ie, admit that you are the Enemy of normal, loyal Americans.


If you aren't brave enough to say it, that does not bode well for you being brave enough to actually fight it.


Are you the enemy of loyal Americans?

What part of revolt is inevitable did you not understand?

Government is depending on the drivers of the tanks in our streets to remain loyal. I'm not convinced that will happen.

I understand what you are saying perfectly.


I also note that you are not stating it clearly and openly.


Lefties like you depend on dishonesty to allow your allies in the media to provide political cover for your treasonous actions and plans.


I dare you to openly state your enmity to the American People.

 

[antifa]

Define loyalist. The founders defeated the loyalist to win independents which led to the Bill of Rights.

Don't play games. Loyal to the government you define as your enemy.


Should normal, loyal, Americans consider you their enemy?

Normal Americans are finally waking up to the fact that government is corrupt beyond the tipping point. Voting doesn't work so revolt is inevitable.

Being loyal to a corrupt government makes you part of the problem with no interest in a solution.

Normal Americans are not supporting your marxist revolution.


If you are brave enough to declare the Government your enemy, be brave enough to admit that loyal Americans, ie Americans that are not on your side in this fight of yours, are your enemy.



ie, admit that you are the Enemy of normal, loyal Americans.


If you aren't brave enough to say it, that does not bode well for you being brave enough to actually fight it.


Are you the enemy of loyal Americans?

What part of revolt is inevitable did you not understand?

Government is depending on the drivers of the tanks in our streets to remain loyal. I'm not convinced that will happen.

I understand what you are saying perfectly.


I also note that you are not stating it clearly and openly.


Lefties like you depend on dishonesty to allow your allies in the media to provide political cover for your treasonous actions and plans.


I dare you to openly state your enmity to the American People.

Evangelical christians are the enemy of the American people and the people of the world.

 

[ding]

They have done just that, outed themselves entirely on their phoney claim to be Christians. They are not Christians. You cannot support a self-admitted sexual predator and support an accused pedophile and call yourself a Christian.

The catholic church has been doing that for hundreds of years.

You do realize that the problem was a reflection of society and peaked in the 1960's through the 1980's, right?

And that it was largely a homosexual problem, right? That there were about 200 actual pedophiles who fit the predator profile and they are all in prison, right?

And that the majority of the other 4,500 priests engaged in one off sex with teenage boys which ran the gamete from kissing and fondling to intercourse, right?

I know a lot about the church. The physical an psychological abuse is done openly. They chose to hide the sexual abuse.

Do you know a lot about the data from the scandal? Because I do.

I believe your view is based more upon emotion than it is the facts.

I don't condone what happened. Society in the 50's should not have ostracized homosexuals so that entering the Church as priests was an attractive escape. The Church should have never allowed homosexuals into the Church just because they were being ostracized by society. Society should have never had the free love movement which pushed the boundaries beyond the standard established by nature. The priests themselves should have never joined the Church for the wrong reasons and certainly shouldn't have broken their vows when they did. And the administrators should have never covered it up when they found out.

But all of those things did happen. There's lots of blame to go around. It's really really easy to be a Monday morning quarterback from the sanctity of a high horse. Just make sure you don't fall off yours while you cherry pick the data to feed your emotional reactions.

Show me the data that is not garbage in garbage out.

It's in the John Jay report. Google it. It's not hard to find.

 

[Correll]

Don't play games. Loyal to the government you define as your enemy.


Should normal, loyal, Americans consider you their enemy?

Normal Americans are finally waking up to the fact that government is corrupt beyond the tipping point. Voting doesn't work so revolt is inevitable.

Being loyal to a corrupt government makes you part of the problem with no interest in a solution.

Normal Americans are not supporting your marxist revolution.


If you are brave enough to declare the Government your enemy, be brave enough to admit that loyal Americans, ie Americans that are not on your side in this fight of yours, are your enemy.



ie, admit that you are the Enemy of normal, loyal Americans.


If you aren't brave enough to say it, that does not bode well for you being brave enough to actually fight it.


Are you the enemy of loyal Americans?

What part of revolt is inevitable did you not understand?

Government is depending on the drivers of the tanks in our streets to remain loyal. I'm not convinced that will happen.

I understand what you are saying perfectly.


I also note that you are not stating it clearly and openly.


Lefties like you depend on dishonesty to allow your allies in the media to provide political cover for your treasonous actions and plans.


I dare you to openly state your enmity to the American People.

Evangelical christians are the enemy of the American people and the people of the world.

Supposedly you are ready to fight the evil government,


but you can't even clearly state that you are the enemy of the People who are loyal to that government.


Craven coward.


As always with lefties, your greatest weapon is LIES.

 

[antifa]

Evangelical christians are the enemy of the American people and the people of the world.

Supposedly you are ready to fight the evil government, but you can't even clearly state that you are the enemy of the People who are loyal to that government.
Craven coward.
As always with lefties, your greatest weapon is LIES.

I clearly stated that evangelical christians are the enemy of America and the people of the world, and I can back it up with evidence.

 

[Correll]

Evangelical christians are the enemy of the American people and the people of the world.

Supposedly you are ready to fight the evil government, but you can't even clearly state that you are the enemy of the People who are loyal to that government.
Craven coward.
As always with lefties, your greatest weapon is LIES.

I clearly stated that evangelical christians are the enemy of America and the people of the world, and I can back it up with evidence.

You talked smack about being the enemy of the American government and implied that extended to loyal Americans.


When I dared to you openly state that you were the enemy of loyal Americans, you balked. Twice.


You ARE the enemy of loyal Americans, but you want to be able to fight against them while having your vile allies provide your with political cover for your vile actions.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Christians, especially evangelical christians will continue to believe their own lies long after they get their heads handed to them in the upcoming civil war.

Interesting profile picture there..I've seen it before being displayed by murderous, anti-christian communist thugs. Communist Party of Germany - Wikipedia

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"the KPD's headquarters from 1926 to 1933. The Antifaschistische Aktion (a.k.a. "Antifa") logo can be seen prominently displayed on the front of the building."

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I'm not German. My avatar reflects a 21st century version of antifa.

Violent fascist thugs.

The Sons of Liberty were considered violent thugs too because they had the balls to stand up to king George and his East India Company. The U.S. has become what the founders fought and died to free themselves from.

The Sons of Liberty didn't go around, attacking innocent bystanders. Furthermore, their behavior was denounced by the leaders of the Revolution as being uncivilized and unacceptable.

 

[koshergrl]

Christians, especially evangelical christians will continue to believe their own lies long after they get their heads handed to them in the upcoming civil war.

Interesting profile picture there..I've seen it before being displayed by murderous, anti-christian communist thugs. Communist Party of Germany - Wikipedia

View attachment 168934

"the KPD's headquarters from 1926 to 1933. The Antifaschistische Aktion (a.k.a. "Antifa") logo can be seen prominently displayed on the front of the building."

By Bundesarchiv, B 145 Bild-P046279 / Weinrother, Carl / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, File:Bundesarchiv B 145 Bild-P046279, Berlin, Liebknecht-Haus am Bülowplatz.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

I'm not German. My avatar reflects a 21st century version of antifa.

Violent fascist thugs.

The Sons of Liberty were considered violent thugs too because they had the balls to stand up to king George and his East India Company. The U.S. has become what the founders fought and died to free themselves from.

A bakery is not KIng George and the East India Company, you **** puke.

The fake victims claimed rape by cake, and maintain the business owners are to blame for their fatness.

The sad thing is that people like you think those assertions are valid. You should be locked up along wiht the lezbos and the pos judge who, as stated in the thread title, fined these people because they are Christian..and maintains that it is okay to lock people up for their religion and nothing more.

YOu know, like these idiots maintain we do to muslims (except we don't. They do..only against Christians).

 

[Cecilie1200]

Interesting profile picture there..I've seen it before being displayed by murderous, anti-christian communist thugs. Communist Party of Germany - Wikipedia

View attachment 168934

"the KPD's headquarters from 1926 to 1933. The Antifaschistische Aktion (a.k.a. "Antifa") logo can be seen prominently displayed on the front of the building."

By Bundesarchiv, B 145 Bild-P046279 / Weinrother, Carl / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, File:Bundesarchiv B 145 Bild-P046279, Berlin, Liebknecht-Haus am Bülowplatz.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

I'm not German. My avatar reflects a 21st century version of antifa.

Violent fascist thugs.

The Sons of Liberty were considered violent thugs too because they had the balls to stand up to king George and his East India Company. The U.S. has become what the founders fought and died to free themselves from.

Your flawed analogy does nothing to dispute that Antifa, today, and as pictured are violent fascist thugs.


Though thank you for your tacit admission that you see America as your enemy.


Do you have the Moral Courage to admit that all Americans who do not share you view of America as an Evil,


should consider you and yours as their enemies?

You can defend government all you want. That's exactly how we became a police state.

And watching Antifa in action just fills me with the warm, fuzzy belief that they would create a society overwhelmed with freedom, tolerance, and hugs and puppies.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Your flawed analogy does nothing to dispute that Antifa, today, and as pictured are violent fascist thugs.


Though thank you for your tacit admission that you see America as your enemy.


Do you have the Moral Courage to admit that all Americans who do not share you view of America as an Evil,


should consider you and yours as their enemies?

You can defend government all you want. That's exactly how we became a police state.

Do you consider all loyal Americans to be your enemy?


Should all normal, loyal Americans consider you their enemy?

Define loyalist. The founders defeated the loyalist to win independents which led to the Bill of Rights.

Don't play games. Loyal to the government you define as your enemy.


Should normal, loyal, Americans consider you their enemy?

Normal Americans are finally waking up to the fact that government is corrupt beyond the tipping point. Voting doesn't work so revolt is inevitable.

Being loyal to a corrupt government makes you part of the problem with no interest in a solution.

Well, you're certainly revolting. Have you considered that if you want to lead a revolution, you might want to try being less repulsive than that which you oppose?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Don't play games. Loyal to the government you define as your enemy.


Should normal, loyal, Americans consider you their enemy?

Normal Americans are finally waking up to the fact that government is corrupt beyond the tipping point. Voting doesn't work so revolt is inevitable.

Being loyal to a corrupt government makes you part of the problem with no interest in a solution.

Normal Americans are not supporting your marxist revolution.


If you are brave enough to declare the Government your enemy, be brave enough to admit that loyal Americans, ie Americans that are not on your side in this fight of yours, are your enemy.



ie, admit that you are the Enemy of normal, loyal Americans.


If you aren't brave enough to say it, that does not bode well for you being brave enough to actually fight it.


Are you the enemy of loyal Americans?

What part of revolt is inevitable did you not understand?

Government is depending on the drivers of the tanks in our streets to remain loyal. I'm not convinced that will happen.

I understand what you are saying perfectly.


I also note that you are not stating it clearly and openly.


Lefties like you depend on dishonesty to allow your allies in the media to provide political cover for your treasonous actions and plans.


I dare you to openly state your enmity to the American People.

Evangelical christians are the enemy of the American people and the people of the world.

We feel the same way about you, and there are a lot more of us.

Just saying you might want to consider that in your strategizing.

 

[Lysistrata]

Hillary stood by and defended her husband. Something most people used to call "Christian".

Trump screws every woman he can, is a serial adulterer and boasts about assaulting women.

So to you, Trump is more moral?

That's the problem with the Evangelicals.

I realize that you're trying valiantly to discuss something about which you know less than nothing, but I can assure you that no one EVER called any aspect of Hillary's behavior "Christian".

As with virtually everyone on this board who discovered morality five minutes ago and now wants to set himself up as Grand High Arbiter of Christianity, you need to deal with the fact that NO ONE is the slightest bit interested in your dictates or your approval.

Look, it was trashy bullshit artists like graham and jeffress and perkins, and you stupid followers who have tried to set themselves up as "grand high arbiters" of Christianity, and in front of open mikes. They, and you, are the ones going around carrying on and sputtering that something is a "Christian belief," or somebody else "isn't a Christian." Remember what happened to President Obama. It's you people who are running around making openly misogynist statements about women "knowing their place" and keeping themselves sexually available on demand, and making unfair and sometimes threatening statements about LGBTs and Muslims. It is you people who support an ugly bearded middle-aged man who said on television that men should sink their teeth into teenage girls before they have a chance to grow up. It is you people who keeping saying that Hillary Clinton is not a Christian when she's been a Methodist her whole life and has behaved according to Christian principles, although YOU stated above that "no one EVER called an aspect" of Ms. Clinton's behavior "Christian." It's you people who think that you just thought up "morality."

The Christian faith and the Republican Party are no where near the same thing. It's time that you dismounted from your high horse.

No, Chuckles, the only people setting themselves up as arbiters of Christianity are twerps like you, who don't even espouse it but are convinced that the world is breathlessly waiting for them to dictate how to practice beliefs they don't share. Everyone else is just stating what they personally believe and how they feel it should best be applied to their decisions. I haven't actually noticed anyone saying someone "isn't a Christian" except for a bunch of people who will proudly tell you THEY aren't, either.

And since I don't even know who Graham, Jeffress (?), and Perkins ARE without going and looking it up (which I'm not planning to do), you can save yourself the effort of screeching about how I'm a "follower" of any of them. If you want to snipe at me for making misogynist statements, I invite you to find one of them and quote it for me. Otherwise, I'm afraid I'm going to have to decline to work myself into a defensive lather about the your disapproval of me. In fact, I'm going to have to decline to give a tin shit about it in any way.

The same goes for anything else you want to accuse me of doing or supporting. Prove it, dipshit, or learn to live with the fact that I consider you a pathetic joke desperately struggling for legitimacy.

And you are a pathetic and easily duped person hawking a bogus ideology. You can't even say anything coherent about your "religion" and don't seem to be familiar with what's in it. I can't help you.

Does it hurt to be as delusionally conceited as you are, or are you accustomed to it like any other birth defect?

I don't recall saying ANYTHING about "my religion", as that would require me to give a **** what you think of it. What I have said, and will continue to say - admittedly, with very little hope that it will puncture the steel bubble of pompous self-importance around you - is that YOUR OPINION OF RELIGION DOESN'T MATTER. Because you don't matter. No one wants your approval. No one needs your sanction of their beliefs. No one has asked you if their practice and application of their religion to their decisions is okay with you, because no one cares.

There is never going to be a time when ANYONE is EVER going to look to you to tell them what Christianity is or how Christians should behave. I'm dubious that anyone considers you reliable or noticeable enough to ask you what time it is, let alone how to live.

By all means, withhold your unsolicited "help", because I have no desire whatsoever to become like you.

By the same token, no one is EVER going to look to you tell tell them what Christianity is or how Christians should behave. I have no desire whatsoever to embrace your ideas of how Christians should behave. You think that you have the right, but you don't. Goodbye, ignorant little girl.