Eva Bartlett on Gaza in Crisis - An Eyewitness Report

[P F Tinmore]

If the Arab Palestinians were competent to enter into the agreement, then Area "C" is under the full control of the Israelis by Palestinian consent.

That is one of the rules of occupation that Israel violates. There can be no agreement that violates any rights of the people.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Wow this is really something.

The rules of occupation have a list of obligations and restrictions for the occupying power. Which ones do Israel not violate?

(COMMENT)

Who is the complainant here?

Most Respectfully,
R

Not the foreign appointed oligarchs in the so called PA.

Nice deflection though.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I never said that the Palestinians "have the same rights." And I never said that Israel "prevented (the Arab Palestinians) from exercising their sovereignty."

Indeed, you have not.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Gaza in Context

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

No rights were violated; not then and not now.

If the Arab Palestinians were competent to enter into the agreement, then Area "C" is under the full control of the Israelis by Palestinian consent.

That is one of the rules of occupation that Israel violates. There can be no agreement that violates any rights of the people.

(COMMENT)

The International Community recognized the agreement. They gave a Nobel Peace Prize for the work done.

The Arab Palestinians just don't want it to become known that the Pro-Arab Palestinians agreed to the terms.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

The International Community recognized the agreement. They gave a Nobel Peace Prize for the work done.

Which international community?

Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize right before he started more wars.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Article X: Joint Israeli-Palestinian liaison committee:

In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint IsraeliPalestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

Where is this Liaison Committee? Who is on it?

(COMMENT)


AGREED MINUTES TO THE DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES ON INTERIM SELF-GOVERNMENT ARRANGEMENTS

Article X

It is agreed that, upon the entry into force of the Declaration of Principles, the Israeli and Palestinian delegations will exchange the names of the individuals designated by them as members of the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement. The Joint Committee may add other technicians and experts, as necessary. The Joint Committee will decide on the frequency and place or places of its meetings.
​

I was not privy to the name exchange.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

No rights were violated; not then and not now.

You're joking, right?

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Article X: Joint Israeli-Palestinian liaison committee:

In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint IsraeliPalestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

Where is this Liaison Committee? Who is on it?

(COMMENT)


AGREED MINUTES TO THE DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES ON INTERIM SELF-GOVERNMENT ARRANGEMENTS

Article X

It is agreed that, upon the entry into force of the Declaration of Principles, the Israeli and Palestinian delegations will exchange the names of the individuals designated by them as members of the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement. The Joint Committee may add other technicians and experts, as necessary. The Joint Committee will decide on the frequency and place or places of its meetings.
​

I was not privy to the name exchange.

Most Respectfully,
R

So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees.

You can't get more useless than that.

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Article X: Joint Israeli-Palestinian liaison committee:

In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint IsraeliPalestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

Where is this Liaison Committee? Who is on it?

(COMMENT)


AGREED MINUTES TO THE DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES ON INTERIM SELF-GOVERNMENT ARRANGEMENTS

Article X

It is agreed that, upon the entry into force of the Declaration of Principles, the Israeli and Palestinian delegations will exchange the names of the individuals designated by them as members of the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement. The Joint Committee may add other technicians and experts, as necessary. The Joint Committee will decide on the frequency and place or places of its meetings.
​

I was not privy to the name exchange.

Most Respectfully,
R

So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees.

You can't get more useless than that.

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

"...the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee."

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Article X: Joint Israeli-Palestinian liaison committee:

In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint IsraeliPalestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

Where is this Liaison Committee? Who is on it?

(COMMENT)


AGREED MINUTES TO THE DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES ON INTERIM SELF-GOVERNMENT ARRANGEMENTS

Article X

It is agreed that, upon the entry into force of the Declaration of Principles, the Israeli and Palestinian delegations will exchange the names of the individuals designated by them as members of the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement. The Joint Committee may add other technicians and experts, as necessary. The Joint Committee will decide on the frequency and place or places of its meetings.
​

I was not privy to the name exchange.

Most Respectfully,
R

So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees.

You can't get more useless than that.

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

"...the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee."

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement.​

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Article X: Joint Israeli-Palestinian liaison committee:

In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint IsraeliPalestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

Where is this Liaison Committee? Who is on it?

(COMMENT)


AGREED MINUTES TO THE DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES ON INTERIM SELF-GOVERNMENT ARRANGEMENTS

Article X

It is agreed that, upon the entry into force of the Declaration of Principles, the Israeli and Palestinian delegations will exchange the names of the individuals designated by them as members of the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement. The Joint Committee may add other technicians and experts, as necessary. The Joint Committee will decide on the frequency and place or places of its meetings.
​

I was not privy to the name exchange.

Most Respectfully,
R

So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees.

You can't get more useless than that.

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

"...the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee."

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement.​

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

You whined: "So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees."

You then whine further: " It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement."

So, it seems that agreements will be a function of two-party agreements.

What other pointless whining would you like to engage in?

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Article X: Joint Israeli-Palestinian liaison committee:

In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint IsraeliPalestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

Where is this Liaison Committee? Who is on it?

(COMMENT)


AGREED MINUTES TO THE DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES ON INTERIM SELF-GOVERNMENT ARRANGEMENTS

Article X

It is agreed that, upon the entry into force of the Declaration of Principles, the Israeli and Palestinian delegations will exchange the names of the individuals designated by them as members of the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement. The Joint Committee may add other technicians and experts, as necessary. The Joint Committee will decide on the frequency and place or places of its meetings.
​

I was not privy to the name exchange.

Most Respectfully,
R

So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees.

You can't get more useless than that.

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

"...the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee."

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement.​

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

You whined: "So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees."

You then whine further: " It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement."

So, it seems that agreements will be a function of two-party agreements.

What other pointless whining would you like to engage in?

Thinking is not the Zionist's long suit.

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Article X: Joint Israeli-Palestinian liaison committee:

In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint IsraeliPalestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

(COMMENT)


AGREED MINUTES TO THE DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES ON INTERIM SELF-GOVERNMENT ARRANGEMENTS

Article X

It is agreed that, upon the entry into force of the Declaration of Principles, the Israeli and Palestinian delegations will exchange the names of the individuals designated by them as members of the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement. The Joint Committee may add other technicians and experts, as necessary. The Joint Committee will decide on the frequency and place or places of its meetings.
​

I was not privy to the name exchange.

Most Respectfully,
R

So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees.

You can't get more useless than that.

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

"...the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee."

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement.​

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

You whined: "So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees."

You then whine further: " It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement."

So, it seems that agreements will be a function of two-party agreements.

What other pointless whining would you like to engage in?

Thinking is not the Zionist's long suit.

I'm guessing you're befuddled at your contradictions being presented to you?

 

[P F Tinmore]

So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees.

You can't get more useless than that.

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

"...the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee."

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement.​

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

You whined: "So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees."

You then whine further: " It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement."

So, it seems that agreements will be a function of two-party agreements.

What other pointless whining would you like to engage in?

Thinking is not the Zionist's long suit.

I'm guessing you're befuddled at your contradictions being presented to you?

Do you mean your inability to follow a thread.

 

[Hollie]

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

"...the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee."

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement.​

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

You whined: "So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees."

You then whine further: " It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement."

So, it seems that agreements will be a function of two-party agreements.

What other pointless whining would you like to engage in?

Thinking is not the Zionist's long suit.

I'm guessing you're befuddled at your contradictions being presented to you?

Do you mean your inability to follow a thread.

No. I mean you're befuddlement at your contradictions being presented to you.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement.​

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

You whined: "So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees."

You then whine further: " It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement."

So, it seems that agreements will be a function of two-party agreements.

What other pointless whining would you like to engage in?

Thinking is not the Zionist's long suit.

I'm guessing you're befuddled at your contradictions being presented to you?

Do you mean your inability to follow a thread.

No. I mean you're befuddlement at your contradictions being presented to you.

There is no contradiction.

 

[Hollie]

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

You whined: "So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees."

You then whine further: " It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement."

So, it seems that agreements will be a function of two-party agreements.

What other pointless whining would you like to engage in?

Thinking is not the Zionist's long suit.

I'm guessing you're befuddled at your contradictions being presented to you?

Do you mean your inability to follow a thread.

No. I mean you're befuddlement at your contradictions being presented to you.

There is no contradiction.

Except for the contradiction.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Thinking is not the Zionist's long suit.

I'm guessing you're befuddled at your contradictions being presented to you?

Do you mean your inability to follow a thread.

No. I mean you're befuddlement at your contradictions being presented to you.

There is no contradiction.

Except for the contradiction.

I can't hear the voices in your head.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

I did not get the connection between Hollie's statement and your reply.

It seems you're having difficulty reading.

You whined: "So, nothing happens unless Israel agrees."

You then whine further: " It is further agreed that each side will have an equal number of members in the Joint Committee. The Joint Committee will reach decisions by agreement."

So, it seems that agreements will be a function of two-party agreements.

What other pointless whining would you like to engage in?

Thinking is not the Zionist's long suit.

(COMMENT)

The though process and manner of reasoning of the Zionist (undefined) cannot be judged by an observer having less exposure to decision making, problem solving and creative thinking.

If we evaluate the Jewish People of the State of Israel (or whatever group you would define as Zionists), on any set of developmental scales (scientific development, economic development, human ecological development, commercial, industrial and engineering development) in a comparative analysis with the Arab Palestinian, you would probably discover that the Israeli people (in general) have a history of significant greater success during the period of observation since 1948. Why, because the Israeli chose a different path to success. In fact, it is questionable if the Arab Palestinians even made a conscious decision towards cultural and nationalist advancement. In contrast, during the same period (1949 - 1967), before the Israeli was provoked into that conflict, in a time before the security barrier and internal security controls in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, --- Israel had made significant progress in all these developmental area (by several factors of 10) well greater than that of the Arab Palestinian. Why? (Rhetorical) Because the Arab Palestinians were focused on conflict and the Israels were focus on the benefit and welfare of their people.

During that period (1949 - 1967) the Arab Palestinians were under the protection of their neighboring Arab States; and in that time the Arab Palestinian was able to exercise any rights the Arab Protectors would permit. There was no interference in anyway by Israel. Yet! The observer will notice that there was no significant advancement in the development of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

These significant difference between the two cultures had nothing whatsoever to do with Israel oppression. But it had a causal connection with the inabilities of the Arab Palestinians to develop had everything to do with observation that "Thinking is not the Zionist's long suit." Yes, the inability of the Israeli to acquire the knowledge, skills and abilities, had the outcome --- that the would suffer as the most highly developed country in the entire Middle East Region. In deed, higher than any of the 22 Arab States; without regard to their oil right status.

NOW IMAGINE, if the Israeli have a long suit for thinking...

Most Respectfully,
R