EU to Israel: Don't use EU funds in settlements

[Hossfly]

There is a growing world-wide awakening that realizes that it is Israeli greed that fuels this conflict onward...Israel's bullshit of Palestini9an Lands needed for defence while sitting on a hundred fifty nukes is a sham.

That's why this boycott is begining to gain steam. The injustice to the Palestinians is clearly evident!

The Zionists complain about the Holocaust and then commit genocide against Muslims.

Who do they think they are? God's Chosen People?

The EU is right to not buy settlemement stuff.

This fool thinks the Israelis are committing genocide when the "Palestinian" population is growing by leaps and bounds. Genocide is when a huge amount of people are killed, like the two million Christians murdered by Muslims in the Sudan. I imagine your hate sites don't mention the millions and millions the Muslims have already killed. Right now those in charge of these individual hate sites are playing "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" so they don't mention the atrocities against the Christians by the Muslims.

 

[toastman]

There is a growing world-wide awakening that realizes that it is Israeli greed that fuels this conflict onward...Israel's bullshit of Palestini9an Lands needed for defence while sitting on a hundred fifty nukes is a sham.

That's why this boycott is begining to gain steam. The injustice to the Palestinians is clearly evident!

The Zionists complain about the Holocaust and then commit genocide against Muslims.

Who do they think they are? God's Chosen People?

The EU is right to not buy settlemement stuff.

This fool thinks the Israelis are committing genocide when the "Palestinian" population is growing by leaps and bounds. Genocide is when a huge amount of people are killed, like the two million Christians murdered by Muslims in the Sudan. I imagine your hate sites don't mention the millions and millions the Muslims have already killed. Right now those in charge of these individual hate sites are playing "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" so they don't mention the atrocities against the Christians by the Muslims.

The idiot still hasn't answered my question as to how the events in his sig have to do with Zionism, specifically the Son of Sam and Ira Einhorn

I'm just wondering if he expects to be taken seriously with a sig like that

 

[Gardener]

The idiot still hasn't answered my question as to how the events in his sig have to do with Zionism, specifically the Son of Sam and Ira Einhorn

I'm just wondering if he expects to be taken seriously with a sig like that

Let's get back to the topic of the thread, shall we?

The settlements are illegal and the Europeans are righteous for boycotting them.

counter point?

 

[Hossfly]

Sad that you have no real idea of the conflict but attempt to "educate" me

I know a great deal about this war.

Now where did you learn a lot about the war? I don't think that you actually utilize encyclopedias, but depend on NeoNazi/Islamofascist hate sites plus Wikipedia where anyone can put in what they want.

 

[Gardener]

Sad that you have no real idea of the conflict but attempt to "educate" me

I know a great deal about this war.

Now where did you learn a lot about the war? I don't think that you actually utilize encyclopedias, but depend on NeoNazi/Islamofascist hate sites plus Wikipedia where anyone can put in what they want.

What you think about my knowledge means nothing.

I know more about this issue than you could ever hope to mimic.

 

[Hossfly]

The idiot still hasn't answered my question as to how the events in his sig have to do with Zionism, specifically the Son of Sam and Ira Einhorn

I'm just wondering if he expects to be taken seriously with a sig like that

Let's get back to the topic of the thread, shall we?

The settlements are illegal and the Europeans are righteous for boycotting them.

counter point?

I wonder if Gardener has an explanation for us as to why Europe doesn't concentrate on more important things like those mentioned in this article. Maybe he is so focused on the Jews and Israel that he really isn't aware of what is going on elsewhere.

The EU's Broken Mideast Compass - Israel Today | Israel News

 

[Gardener]

The idiot still hasn't answered my question as to how the events in his sig have to do with Zionism, specifically the Son of Sam and Ira Einhorn

I'm just wondering if he expects to be taken seriously with a sig like that

Let's get back to the topic of the thread, shall we?

The settlements are illegal and the Europeans are righteous for boycotting them.

counter point?

I wonder if Gardener has an explanation for us as to why Europe doesn't concentrate on more important things like those mentioned in this article. Maybe he is so focused on the Jews and Israel that he really isn't aware of what is going on elsewhere.

The EU's Broken Mideast Compass - Israel Today | Israel News

Maybe some day you will want to discuss the issue and not me. You seem to be obsessed with talking about me and not the issoue of the EU and settlements.

why is that?

 

[Dot Com]

The idiot still hasn't answered my question as to how the events in his sig have to do with Zionism, specifically the Son of Sam and Ira Einhorn

I'm just wondering if he expects to be taken seriously with a sig like that

Let's get back to the topic of the thread, shall we?

The settlements are illegal and the Europeans are righteous for boycotting them.

counter point?

I wonder if Gardener has an explanation for us as to why Europe doesn't concentrate on more important things like those mentioned in this article. Maybe he is so focused on the Jews and Israel that he really isn't aware of what is going on elsewhere.

The EU's Broken Mideast Compass - Israel Today | Israel News

 

[Hossfly]

Let's get back to the topic of the thread, shall we?

The settlements are illegal and the Europeans are righteous for boycotting them.

counter point?

I wonder if Gardener has an explanation for us as to why Europe doesn't concentrate on more important things like those mentioned in this article. Maybe he is so focused on the Jews and Israel that he really isn't aware of what is going on elsewhere.

The EU's Broken Mideast Compass - Israel Today | Israel News

Deflection? The link I provided discusses the OP.

 

[Kondor3]

Some simple 'cooking of the books' within Israel should neutralize this Boycott Absurdity in a heartbeat...

 

[Hossfly]

Let's get back to the topic of the thread, shall we?

The settlements are illegal and the Europeans are righteous for boycotting them.

counter point?

I wonder if Gardener has an explanation for us as to why Europe doesn't concentrate on more important things like those mentioned in this article. Maybe he is so focused on the Jews and Israel that he really isn't aware of what is going on elsewhere.

The EU's Broken Mideast Compass - Israel Today | Israel News

Maybe some day you will want to discuss the issue and not me. You seem to be obsessed with talking about me and not the issoue of the EU and settlements.

why is that?

Did you open my link, dumkopf?

 

[pbel]

The boycott will keep growing world-wide because of the immoral position of the Israeli State...

Some simple 'cooking of the books' within Israel should neutralize this Boycott Absurdity in a heartbeat...

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[Gardener]

first McDnalds and now the EU.

things are looking up for palestine!!!

 

[Roudy]

first McDnalds and now the EU.

things are looking up for palestine!!!

Yes, especially the part where the Egyptian people removed the Muslim Brotherhood Morsi who was a big Hamas supporter. Now if only the Palestinians had the guts to remove the Hamas Islamic animals.

 

[Gardener]

Did you open my link, dumkopf?

are you mature and intelligent enough to debate the issue of the EU boycott of settlements without personal attacking?

 

[Lipush]

first McDnalds and now the EU.

things are looking up for palestine!!!

Yes, especially the part where the Egyptian people removed the Muslim Brotherhood Morsi who was a big Hamas supporter. Now if only the Palestinians had the guts to remove the Hamas Islamic animals.

Cannot wait for Hamas to collapse!

It will be a day of holiday in southern Israel!

May it happen soon, soon, SOON!

 

[Hossfly]

Let's get back to the topic of the thread, shall we?

The settlements are illegal and the Europeans are righteous for boycotting them.

counter point?

I wonder if Gardener has an explanation for us as to why Europe doesn't concentrate on more important things like those mentioned in this article. Maybe he is so focused on the Jews and Israel that he really isn't aware of what is going on elsewhere.

The EU's Broken Mideast Compass - Israel Today | Israel News

Maybe some day you will want to discuss the issue and not me. You seem to be obsessed with talking about me and not the issoue of the EU and settlements.

why is that?

Why, Gerdener, since you came to this forum, you have been running around like a chicken with his head cut off showing everyone what a two-bit anti-Semite you are. By the way, I thought that article was right on the button. There are so many things that are happening in others places which are actually more important than what is happening in one tiny part of the Middle East, such as 100,000 people killed in the Syrian Civil War, thousands and thousand wounded, and thousands and thousands are refugees. People are being killed in Iraq, Pakistan and Yemen (to name a few) all the time, and yet you don't seem to even register what is going on because no Jews are involved. Read the article once again, and see if anything will sink in.

 

[Hossfly]

Let's get back to the topic of the thread, shall we?

The settlements are illegal and the Europeans are righteous for boycotting them.

counter point?

I wonder if Gardener has an explanation for us as to why Europe doesn't concentrate on more important things like those mentioned in this article. Maybe he is so focused on the Jews and Israel that he really isn't aware of what is going on elsewhere.

The EU's Broken Mideast Compass - Israel Today | Israel News

Looks like another anti-Semite wanted to chime in. By the way, Dot.com, don't you think Ataturk would be rolling over in his grave today if he knew what was happening in Turkey. However, maybe you don't care that churches are being destroyed and priests gunned down. By the way, I once saw a reference that Ataturk was actually Jewish. If this happened to be true, I wonder if Dot.com would still have the same sig line.

 

[toastman]

Hoss, the link doesn't work, got another one ?
I'd like to read the article

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Hoss, the link doesn't work, got another one ?
I'd like to read the article

The link worked for me. Here is the article.



The EU's Broken Mideast Compass
Friday, July 19, 2013 | Noah Beck


The European Union recently sent out a directive barring its 28 members from cooperating with Israeli entities in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The boycott includes “all funding, cooperation, and the granting of scholarships, research grants and prizes” to Israeli entities in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.

If this is how the EU chooses to spend its limited diplomatic and political resources "to help" the Middle East, then its moral compass is badly broken. The EU still hasn't even mustered the clarity or courage to join the USA, Canada, and six Gulf states (led by Bahrain) in designating Hezbollah a terrorist organization, even though Hezbollah has committed terrorist acts on EU soil that killed an EU citizen, and has supported Basher Assad's butchery in Syria. The EU has also failed to take any decisive action to address the urgent crises in Lebanon, Syria, and Iran (which marches ever closer to nukes and imports ore -- for armor and missile production -- from Germany and France). And where is the EU's boycott of Mideast governments that persecute women, execute homosexuals, and condone the slaughter of Christians?

If the EU wants to wield its economic clout to impose peace on disputing parties, why not boycott China for its brutal occupation of Tibet? Clearly that occupation doesn't matter because the EU is China's largest trading partner. And why isn't the EU boycotting Northern Cyprus, which is under foreign military occupation by Turkey (against the wishes of the EU)?

The hypocrisy is even more flagrant because some EU states are themselves occupying disputed territories on various continents. One of the most notorious examples is the Falkland Islands. What exactly is the UK's burning security interest in occupying a Latin American island nearly 8,000 miles away? Maybe the EU should boycott the UK as well.

In the end, an EU boycott of Israel is just a cheap way to score political points with the oil-producing Arab states and the growing Muslim population on European soil. Indeed, the EU's anti-Israel directive resembles Stephen Hawking's ill-fated attempt to inject himself into the Israeli-Palestinian controversy. Just as he absurdly chose to boycott the country largely responsible for the technology that enables him to communicate, the EU shamelessly targets the only country in the Middle East that actually shares the EU's democratic values, respect for human rights, pluralism, and the rule of law (not to mention shared interests like curbing Iranian nukes, developing natural gas resources in the Mediterranean Sea, and seeing moderates prevail in the volatile Middle East).

Putting aside the EU's abundant hypocrisy, trying to strong-arm Israel into unilateral concessions has already proven to be an abysmal failure when it comes to promoting peace. Just ask President Obama, who in 2009 pressured Israel into a 10-month settlement freeze in the West Bank without requiring any reciprocal gestures from the Palestinians. They quickly realized that they need not negotiate with Israel because Obama was doing that for them. One can hardly blame Palestinians for trying to maximize their negotiating posture, even if it lacks good faith. Thus, peace talks have remain stalled for Obama's entire presidency, even though Secretary of State John Kerry will soon make his sixth peace-pushing trip (in as many months) to the region.

It's also worth noting that the real obstacle to peace -- Palestinian rejectionism and terrorism -- existed before any of Israel's settlement-building. Palestinian terrorism and rejectionism from Gaza also continued despite the removal of Israeli settlements (from Gaza in 2005). So Israeli settlements did not create Palestinian extremism and their removal doesn't necessarily end it.

History has also demonstrated that Israeli settlement building has not prevented Israel from making painful territorial compromises for peace: Menachem Begin evacuated the Sinai, Ehud Barak ended Israel's presence in Southern Lebanon, Ariel Sharon left Gaza, and Benjamin Netanyahu handed over West Bank territories under the Wye Accords.

Moreover, the EU seems to have forgotten that Jews have a historical and legal right to be in the West Bank. The "Mandate for Palestine" confirmed by the League of Nations recognized the "historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine" and "the grounds for reconstituting their National Home in that country." Under Article 6, the Mandate encouraged "close settlement by Jews, on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes." The EU's boycott falsely implies that Jews have no right to live in the West Bank, and is thus disturbingly reminiscent of the "Judenrein" policies of Nazi Germany, which banned Jews from certain spheres of life only because they were Jews.

Lastly, the EU (and US) position on Israeli West Bank construction lacks balance because Palestinian construction is never limited. As Eli Hertz notes: "The Oslo Accords do not forbid Israeli or Arab settlement activity. Charging that further Jewish settlement activity preempts final negotiations by establishing realities, requires reciprocity. If Jews were forcibly expelled from the West Bank in 1948 during a war of aggression aimed at them [but then recaptured the West Bank in the defensive war of 1967], then these Territories must be considered disputed Territories, at the least...According to David Bar-Ilan, a former policy planning official, the tempo of Arab construction is “more than 10 times the number of buildings under construction [in the Territory] than those approved [by the Israeli government] for the [Jewish] settlers.”

If the EU wants to ignore international law and history, the many more pressing Mideast issues, and its own hypocrisy, all for the sake of promoting Israeli-Palestinian peace, then it should at least recognize that unilateral pressure on Israel has only reinforced Palestinian inflexibility. Indeed, it is only the Palestinians who have refused to negotiate peace without preconditions. The EU has pressured the wrong party because its Mideast compass is badly broken.

Noah Beck is the author of The Last Israelis, an apocalyptic novel about Iranian nukes and other geopolitical issues in the Middle East.