Entire class of new nay ships unfit for combat, must run away and can't shoot effectively.

[Camp]

The ships can run away just fine. They are Democrat ships.

Obama class ships

They were purposely designed that way long before Obama was even a Senator let alone President. They are basically an updated version of a Coast Guard Cutter that enables the Navy to use its own ships rather than Coast Guard ships for harbors ports, and coastal surveillance and protection.
You are falling for or simply promoting the Breitbart misinformation and spin.

Trumps wasn't even President and told Boeing the cost of AF1 was absurd so they adjusted

Easy to do Frank, Boeing just starts eliminating whistles and bells the same way a car salesman would do if you wanted a factory new car ordered. You can get a lower price, but say goodbye to a bunch of optional extras. Do you really need the back seat video drop down display or the all around heated seats?

That's the benefit in having a successful nyc real estate developer at the helm and not someone who tells the contractor, "whatever, use your judgement"

That is not it at all. We do no order our weapons development by limited specifications. We order the best that can be developed and attained to ensure we will have better and more advanced weapons than our potential or actual enemies. When a billionaire businessman like Trump is ordering work on his personal residence or pet project he will tell the contractor he wants the best money can buy and to spare no expense. When he or they are ordering for units or facilities that lease or are sold, they put on limits. Our weapons development programs are ordered they are ordered with the "best available" attitude and concept.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Recognizing that the ship, Gabby Giffords was built to be deficient does not mean that Gabby Giffords, the woman, is hated. Nor does anything pertain to Dylan Roof.

This is why democrats are a regional party.

Republicans hate Gabby Giffords because she did not want to see anyone else go through what she did

When you get shot, suck it up and accept it

No one hates Gabby Giffords. She is a misguided victim. Her injury, no matter how bad, is not sufficient to deprive someone else of their rights.

Read the OP

Why else would someone object to a Congresswoman who took a bullet to the head serving her country having a ship named after her?

No one is objecting except that the ship is not serviceable. There is some question as to the appropriateness of naming naval vessels after victims. The idea of having a victim class of warships is ridiculous.

You mean like Abe Lincoln, JFK or Ron Reagan?

Yes exactly. This is the Presidential Class of warships.

Then there is the Victim Class of warships. The Gabby Giffords and Harvey Milk, they are designed to run away and hide behind another ship.

 

[2aguy]

So the US can't keep up with the rest of the world? Jesus, you people are unbelievable.

Even a minimum amount of research would educate you. Cost estimates and predictions are made with estimates of advancing technology cost. A weapon of weapons system designed today can predictably go up in cost because of upgrades and increased the cost of the new technology. A cost analysis for computer systems can be using today's cost, but it is certainly predictable that advances will make the cost increase by the time actual production. Would you want to put three of four-year-old computer technology into a new weapons system or would you want to use the very latest and advanced computer technology?

Wrong...cost estimates add in the corruption needed to get the government contract.....moron.

Gosh, how does one argue with such an academic and scholarly response?

One can't...wisdom is wisdom......left wing b.s. is left wing b.s. and it is immune to wisdom....

At one time there were some right wing posters here who could make some valid and interesting points in academic and scholastic methods. Not so much anymore. You sure were never one of them. Anyone who needs to revert to blaming left wing or right wing as an argument point has no real argument.

You are not very wise....

 

[2aguy]

Obama class ships

They were purposely designed that way long before Obama was even a Senator let alone President. They are basically an updated version of a Coast Guard Cutter that enables the Navy to use its own ships rather than Coast Guard ships for harbors ports, and coastal surveillance and protection.
You are falling for or simply promoting the Breitbart misinformation and spin.

Trumps wasn't even President and told Boeing the cost of AF1 was absurd so they adjusted

Easy to do Frank, Boeing just starts eliminating whistles and bells the same way a car salesman would do if you wanted a factory new car ordered. You can get a lower price, but say goodbye to a bunch of optional extras. Do you really need the back seat video drop down display or the all around heated seats?

That's the benefit in having a successful nyc real estate developer at the helm and not someone who tells the contractor, "whatever, use your judgement"

That is not it at all. We do no order our weapons development by limited specifications. We order the best that can be developed and attained to ensure we will have better and more advanced weapons than our potential or actual enemies. When a billionaire businessman like Trump is ordering work on his personal residence or pet project he will tell the contractor he wants the best money can buy and to spare no expense. When he or they are ordering for units or facilities that lease or are sold, they put on limits. Our weapons development programs are ordered they are ordered with the "best available" attitude and concept.

Sorry...that isn't how the government does it.....greedy politicians put their hand in the process and whenever you have government involved you get the lowest quality.

 

[Camp]

They were purposely designed that way long before Obama was even a Senator let alone President. They are basically an updated version of a Coast Guard Cutter that enables the Navy to use its own ships rather than Coast Guard ships for harbors ports, and coastal surveillance and protection.
You are falling for or simply promoting the Breitbart misinformation and spin.

Trumps wasn't even President and told Boeing the cost of AF1 was absurd so they adjusted

Easy to do Frank, Boeing just starts eliminating whistles and bells the same way a car salesman would do if you wanted a factory new car ordered. You can get a lower price, but say goodbye to a bunch of optional extras. Do you really need the back seat video drop down display or the all around heated seats?

That's the benefit in having a successful nyc real estate developer at the helm and not someone who tells the contractor, "whatever, use your judgement"

That is not it at all. We do no order our weapons development by limited specifications. We order the best that can be developed and attained to ensure we will have better and more advanced weapons than our potential or actual enemies. When a billionaire businessman like Trump is ordering work on his personal residence or pet project he will tell the contractor he wants the best money can buy and to spare no expense. When he or they are ordering for units or facilities that lease or are sold, they put on limits. Our weapons development programs are ordered they are ordered with the "best available" attitude and concept.

Sorry...that isn't how the government does it.....greedy politicians put their hand in the process and whenever you have government involved you get the lowest quality.

So, now you are claiming that America produces the lowest quality military equipment and weapons systems. All this based on a distorted and sham article in a hack self serving news source call Breitbart.

 

[2aguy]

Trumps wasn't even President and told Boeing the cost of AF1 was absurd so they adjusted

Easy to do Frank, Boeing just starts eliminating whistles and bells the same way a car salesman would do if you wanted a factory new car ordered. You can get a lower price, but say goodbye to a bunch of optional extras. Do you really need the back seat video drop down display or the all around heated seats?

That's the benefit in having a successful nyc real estate developer at the helm and not someone who tells the contractor, "whatever, use your judgement"

That is not it at all. We do no order our weapons development by limited specifications. We order the best that can be developed and attained to ensure we will have better and more advanced weapons than our potential or actual enemies. When a billionaire businessman like Trump is ordering work on his personal residence or pet project he will tell the contractor he wants the best money can buy and to spare no expense. When he or they are ordering for units or facilities that lease or are sold, they put on limits. Our weapons development programs are ordered they are ordered with the "best available" attitude and concept.

Sorry...that isn't how the government does it.....greedy politicians put their hand in the process and whenever you have government involved you get the lowest quality.

So, now you are claiming that America produces the lowest quality military equipment and weapons systems. All this based on a distorted and sham article in a hack self serving news source call Breitbart.

Nope.....they pay a fortune for it and odds are there ratio of success to crap is a lot worse because it involves working with corrupt poltiicians who end up approving the budgets.......we are only successful because we have had a capitalist society and our mistakes get fixed..........it usually costs the lives of soldiers and sailors, then their families go after the politicians to fix things.....since our elected officials have to face the vote, things get fixed faster than in left wing countries.....

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans hate Gabby Giffords because she did not want to see anyone else go through what she did

When you get shot, suck it up and accept it

No one hates Gabby Giffords. She is a misguided victim. Her injury, no matter how bad, is not sufficient to deprive someone else of their rights.

Read the OP

Why else would someone object to a Congresswoman who took a bullet to the head serving her country having a ship named after her?

No one is objecting except that the ship is not serviceable. There is some question as to the appropriateness of naming naval vessels after victims. The idea of having a victim class of warships is ridiculous.

You mean like Abe Lincoln, JFK or Ron Reagan?

Yes exactly. This is the Presidential Class of warships.

Then there is the Victim Class of warships. The Gabby Giffords and Harvey Milk, they are designed to run away and hide behind another ship.

Both took a bullet in the service of their country

You call them victims.....I call them heroes

 

[rightwinger]

Easy to do Frank, Boeing just starts eliminating whistles and bells the same way a car salesman would do if you wanted a factory new car ordered. You can get a lower price, but say goodbye to a bunch of optional extras. Do you really need the back seat video drop down display or the all around heated seats?

That's the benefit in having a successful nyc real estate developer at the helm and not someone who tells the contractor, "whatever, use your judgement"

That is not it at all. We do no order our weapons development by limited specifications. We order the best that can be developed and attained to ensure we will have better and more advanced weapons than our potential or actual enemies. When a billionaire businessman like Trump is ordering work on his personal residence or pet project he will tell the contractor he wants the best money can buy and to spare no expense. When he or they are ordering for units or facilities that lease or are sold, they put on limits. Our weapons development programs are ordered they are ordered with the "best available" attitude and concept.

Sorry...that isn't how the government does it.....greedy politicians put their hand in the process and whenever you have government involved you get the lowest quality.

So, now you are claiming that America produces the lowest quality military equipment and weapons systems. All this based on a distorted and sham article in a hack self serving news source call Breitbart.

Nope.....they pay a fortune for it and odds are there ratio of success to crap is a lot worse because it involves working with corrupt poltiicians who end up approving the budgets.......we are only successful because we have had a capitalist society and our mistakes get fixed..........it usually costs the lives of soldiers and sailors, then their families go after the politicians to fix things.....since our elected officials have to face the vote, things get fixed faster than in left wing countries.....

Our militaries ratio of success to crap is outstanding
We have the most powerful military in the world and the survival rate of our servicemen is at a level unimaginable a generation ago

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Being distracted by new shiny things is a problem with the military brass even if it works or not. I suggest people watch the movie Pentagon Wars it's a dramatic account on the fielding of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle but it should give everyone a good idea on how the military procedures their hardware, plus it's fucking hilarious.

 

[rightwinger]

Being distracted by new shiny things is a problem with the military brass even if it works or not. I suggest people watch the movie Pentagon Wars it's a dramatic account on the fielding of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle but it should give everyone a good idea on how the military procedures their hardware, plus it's fucking hilarious.

Bradley turned into a fine Fighting Vehicle

Vastly superior to the M113

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Being distracted by new shiny things is a problem with the military brass even if it works or not. I suggest people watch the movie Pentagon Wars it's a dramatic account on the fielding of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle but it should give everyone a good idea on how the military procedures their hardware, plus it's fucking hilarious.

Bradley turned into a fine Fighting Vehicle

Vastly superior to the M113

Yeah after a long overdrawn expensive process.

 

[rightwinger]

Being distracted by new shiny things is a problem with the military brass even if it works or not. I suggest people watch the movie Pentagon Wars it's a dramatic account on the fielding of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle but it should give everyone a good idea on how the military procedures their hardware, plus it's fucking hilarious.

Bradley turned into a fine Fighting Vehicle

Vastly superior to the M113

Yeah after a long overdrawn expensive process.

Bradley's have done well
I like the Strykers