Ending Poverty In America

[Woodznutz]

The minimum income needed to survive in America varies greatly depending on location and individual circumstances, but generally, a single person needs to earn at least $70,000 to cover basic needs in a major city like New York. For a family of four, the need could be as high as $235,000
An individual must earn $96,500 a year before taxes to afford housing, groceries, transportation and entertainment, while also paying off debt and putting some money into savings
To survive in the US, a single adult generally needs an income of around $55,000 to $60,000 annually

To survive in the US, a single adult generally needs an income of around $55,000 to $60,000 annually

For retirees on a fixed income, states like Mississippi, South Carolina, and Tennessee are often recommended. These states offer a lower cost of living, particularly in housing, and some have tax advantages for retirees, such as no state income tax or exemptions for Social Security and retirement income.

It all boils down to lifestyle. Some are spartan/minimalist, others are extravagant, or somewhere in between.

 

[Harry Dresden]

He was just on Bill Maher. I hope he runs. He's only 77 years old. Very very smart man. Not like Trump who's honestly a very stupid man.

Like you know how I'm an idiot but super successful in business? Trump is like that only he has power to do the stupid things he thinks/hears/says.

I'm waiting for you to admit you wish you voted for Kamala and you wish she won instead of Trump. Not ready to do that yet? Just wait. I'm already on the "I told you so" tour.

McDonald's Store Traffic Falls Unexpectedly As Diners Grow Uneasy About Economy​

The burger giant’s troubles were particularly acute in the U.S., where same-store sales slumped 3.6%

Wall Street had been expecting an increase of nearly 2%

The trouble was particularly acute in the U.S., where same-store sales slumped 3.6%. That was the biggest U.S. decline McDonald’s has seen since 2020, when a pandemic shuttered stores and restaurants and other public spaces nation

kamala?....lol....bobo unlike you and many here i experienced her bullshit in California...she was in over her head....kamala...lol....

 

[sealybobo]

kamala?....lol....bobo unlike you and many here i experienced her bullshit in California...she was in over her head....kamala...lol....

And Trump isn't? You don't know what you are talking about Harry. I'm sure if you look into it, she isn't to blame for your woes in Cali.

She would have continued on the Clinton/Obama/Biden economy which is trying to help labor out without pissing corporations off. Trying to help both sides.

Trump is pretending to be helping uneducated blue collar workers. I already fully understand the GRIFT that is happening. "I'm going to bring jobs home to help these people who got fucked under Bush (yea, I know, Clinton signed NAFTA). Well, Trump renegotiated NAFTA in 2020. Did you know that? So the deal he's saying that's bad is HIS FUCKING DEAL Harry.

Yea, Kamala. LOL. Would have been way better than Trump. But I notice you exaggerate how bad Democrats are and you seem to prefer Trump over Biden. Is that true? That's because you swallowed the "illegals are a major problem". Honestly, they aren't. In fact we had 10 million unfilled jobs. Today it's only 8 million. 2 million fewer jobs since Trump took over.
Or you thought Trump would be better on the economy. Which is insane but a lot of people who I asked why the fuck are you voting for Trump gave that reason. They just felt he would be better at the economy than she would.

 

[hadit]

Looks like Trump's policies are making us all poorer. Turns out we weren't lying when we said Biden had a great economy. Last year the USA had the greatest economy in the world. We were doing amazing compared to every other country. How we doing today? I hear shelves are going to be empty soon. Good thing we freaked out and stocked up when Trump first threatened tariffs. Now we have to pray we can outlast China.

Trump got mad at Amazon because they were going to put how much tariffs are costing us on each order. So

$100 for this widget
$80 for the product
$20 is tariff

Trump costing us $20 more. We are all poorer because of him. Why the fuck did you vote for him? So he could fix what wasn't broken? Or break what was working?

You can live very nicely on credit, for a while.

 

[sealybobo]

You can live very nicely on credit, for a while.

Trumpanomics

More Americans are financing groceries with buy now, pay later loans — and more are paying those bills late​

25% of buy now, pay later users are funding grocery purchases with the loans, up from 14% in 2024

Are they better off under Trump? Nope

 

[Harry Dresden]

And Trump isn't? You don't know what you are talking about Harry. I'm sure if you look into it, she isn't to blame for your woes in Cali.

She would have continued on the Clinton/Obama/Biden economy which is trying to help labor out without pissing corporations off. Trying to help both sides.

Trump is pretending to be helping uneducated blue collar workers. I already fully understand the GRIFT that is happening. "I'm going to bring jobs home to help these people who got fucked under Bush (yea, I know, Clinton signed NAFTA). Well, Trump renegotiated NAFTA in 2020. Did you know that? So the deal he's saying that's bad is HIS FUCKING DEAL Harry.

Yea, Kamala. LOL. Would have been way better than Trump. But I notice you exaggerate how bad Democrats are and you seem to prefer Trump over Biden. Is that true? That's because you swallowed the "illegals are a major problem". Honestly, they aren't. In fact we had 10 million unfilled jobs. Today it's only 8 million. 2 million fewer jobs since Trump took over.
Or you thought Trump would be better on the economy. Which is insane but a lot of people who I asked why the fuck are you voting for Trump gave that reason. They just felt he would be better at the economy than she would.

i never said she was bobo....she was the AG not the gov....she is a hypocrite....she would throw your ass in prison for pot while claiming she did it herself....did you ever hear her mention all those gangs like MS-13? and how she was going to deal with them?....neither did i......

 

[hadit]

Trumpanomics

More Americans are financing groceries with buy now, pay later loans — and more are paying those bills late​

25% of buy now, pay later users are funding grocery purchases with the loans, up from 14% in 2024

Are they better off under Trump? Nope

A country can't live on debt forever, and the children always complain when Daddy puts away the credit card.

 

[sealybobo]

A country can't live on debt forever, and the children always complain when Daddy puts away the credit card.

Oh brother. What's funny is you think you are daddy. Remember when Daddy caused the Great Recession in 2008 and Mommy had to come get the car out of the ditch?

Remember when Daddy shit the bed when Covid hit? Back then he was so worried about his economy he hid how bad covid was. This year he doesn't care about the economy. He simply MUST go to war with China.

Hey I have an idea. How about over the course of 4 years we slowly wean ourselves off of buying from China. Either find other trading partners or start making it at home. But don't start the trade war before we are ready to win. How many weeks will we put up with empty shelves?

 

[lg325]

Education'- General ,Life skills, basic business skills ,Trade skills.
Good Health- Physical, Mental, Spiritual.
Last - Access to Capital
These things get people out of poverty. Private charities, includes religious groups with government assistance can provide these things.

I will add these things are not giving things to poor people but preparing them to improve themselves.

 

[initforme]

You really have to love stupid. We have had welfare, snap and other give always for years. We still have poverty and always will. You could give everyone 50 thousand a year and there will be those that run out and spend it on drugs, booze gambling. There are those that will buy a new car, a new television, a new phone then turn around and wonder how they are going to eat.
Some people will continue to live in tents because they have mental problems and do not want the responsibility of owning things.
All in all it is impossible no matter how much money you throw at a problem bad decisions make it impossible to fix.

50 thousand? That's poverty.

 

[sealybobo]

Education'- General ,Life skills, basic business skills ,Trade skills.
Good Health- Physical, Mental, Spiritual.
Last - Access to Capital
These things get people out of poverty. Private charities, includes religious groups with government assistance can provide these things.

Religion is doing a horrible job helping the poor. We should take their tax exempt status away.

A country can't live on debt forever, and the children always complain when Daddy puts away the credit card.

Did you see Trump bragging that his new MAGA hat was made in America? How come last year he didn't have those bibles made in America? He purchased them from China.

You see, Trump doesn't have to start a trade war with China. He and others like him simply need to stop buying from China.

This reminds me of global warming. Republicans love to ask ME what I'm doing to go Green. Well what is Trump doing to beat China? Last year he was buying from them. The guy preaching BUY AMERICAN was buying Chinese.

 

[hadit]

Oh brother. What's funny is you think you are daddy. Remember when Daddy caused the Great Recession in 2008 and Mommy had to come get the car out of the ditch?

Remember when Daddy shit the bed when Covid hit? Back then he was so worried about his economy he hid how bad covid was. This year he doesn't care about the economy. He simply MUST go to war with China.

Hey I have an idea. How about over the course of 4 years we slowly wean ourselves off of buying from China. Either find other trading partners or start making it at home. But don't start the trade war before we are ready to win. How many weeks will we put up with empty shelves?

We've had decades to do it the slow way. Over 30 trillion in debt and climbing rapidly means we can't do that anymore. It all comes down to how hard you want the crash landing to be. You've not been electing a daddy, you've always elected Santa Claus.

 

[hadit]

Religion is doing a horrible job helping the poor. We should take their tax exempt status away.


Did you see Trump bragging that his new MAGA hat was made in America? How come last year he didn't have those bibles made in America? He purchased them from China.

You see, Trump doesn't have to start a trade war with China. He and others like him simply need to stop buying from China.

This reminds me of global warming. Republicans love to ask ME what I'm doing to go Green. Well what is Trump doing to beat China? Last year he was buying from them. The guy preaching BUY AMERICAN was buying Chinese.

Yippee ki yay. If you start wearing your seat belt and telling young drivers to wear theirs, why would I constantly remind everybody you're a massive hypocrite because you used to drive without one? I'm just glad you're telling kids to wear them.

 

[sealybobo]

We've had decades to do it the slow way. Over 30 trillion in debt and climbing rapidly means we can't do that anymore. It all comes down to how hard you want the crash landing to be. You've not been electing a daddy, you've always elected Santa Claus.

So this trade war with china is going to solve the debt problem? How?

 

[hadit]

So this trade war with china is going to solve the debt problem? How?

Are you completely unable to see more than factor at a time? There are multiple facets to the debt problem but here you are, pretending there's only one. The rest of us know that's not the case. Your question is deliberately designed to elicit only one response, at which time you will rant off into the sunset, thinking you've accomplished something.

We're already seeing increased revenue from the tariffs and bringing manufacturing back to the States means more tax revenue. Those are two impacts of the tariffs.

 

[sealybobo]

Are you completely unable to see more than factor at a time? There are multiple facets to the debt problem but here you are, pretending there's only one. The rest of us know that's not the case. Your question is deliberately designed to elicit only one response, at which time you will rant off into the sunset, thinking you've accomplished something.

We're already seeing increased revenue from the tariffs and bringing manufacturing back to the States means more tax revenue. Those are two impacts of the tariffs.

See this is what you/Trump does. His answer last year for everything at that time was "drill baby drill". Now you have been convinced that this trade war is a wise thing to do, gonna benefit you and is the root to all our problems. You're a fucking idiot. If we want to bring jobs back home do it. Did you need to start a trade war that is going to raise prices and empty shelves? Come on stupid! Admit that Trump is a fuck up and screwing up and now his/your spin is that this trade war is necessary and the way he's going about it is the right way to go about it? Even though every smart economist in the world is shaking their heads?

Trump is an idiot and most of his followers are too. Even the rich ones. You're all a bunch of dopes. The rich dopes are taking advantage of the poor suckers.

YOU my friend are probably a poor sucker. Or you are like my brother. HATES woke and liberals and DEI so much that he isn't even listening anymore. To him if you don't see what Trump is doing is good, you're stupid.

Well I guess I'm stupid.

And he says "it's because you hate the guy so much". I said no brother. YOU are the one who seems to hate liberals so much that you aren't even listening anymore.

And he's glad Trump is breaking the law getting gang members out. GLAD! Doesn't care! He's getting them out. Your side would never do it.

That's right bro. We would never break the law like this. And that should be a good thing.

 

[sealybobo]

Are you completely unable to see more than factor at a time? There are multiple facets to the debt problem but here you are, pretending there's only one. The rest of us know that's not the case. Your question is deliberately designed to elicit only one response, at which time you will rant off into the sunset, thinking you've accomplished something.

We're already seeing increased revenue from the tariffs and bringing manufacturing back to the States means more tax revenue. Those are two impacts of the tariffs.

You know what's funny? I told you for years that if you give the rich tax breaks, eventually the tax burden is going to fall on you. This is proving me right. So Reagan, Bush and Trump have basically made it so rich people don't pay taxes. And now you are saying tariffs are going to pay off the debt? Who pays tariffs We DO!!!

Holy fuck! I'm fucking never wrong.

 

[hadit]

See this is what you/Trump does. His answer last year for everything at that time was "drill baby drill". Now you have been convinced that this trade war is a wise thing to do, gonna benefit you and is the root to all our problems.

And there you go again, unable to see more than one factor at a time. The tariffs are but one tool we can use to soften the inevitable blow somewhat. You seem to be thinking that slowing down before you hit a wall is stupid.

You're a fucking idiot. If we want to bring jobs back home do it.

How would you do that, oh dictator? Just issue an edict from on high? Sure, that's a good idea.

Did you need to start a trade war that is going to raise prices and empty shelves?

It will temporarily adjust some things but ultimately even them out. We're still the biggest buyers in the world and no one's going to completely stop selling to us just because they have to charge higher prices.

Come on stupid! Admit that Trump is a fuck up and screwing up and now his/your spin is that this trade war is necessary and the way he's going about it is the right way to go about it? Even though every smart economist in the world is shaking their heads?

Ah, yes, the old qualifier, "smart". That way you can claim that any economist that contradicts your blinkered world view is stupid.

Trump is an idiot and most of his followers are too. Even the rich ones. You're all a bunch of dopes. The rich dopes are taking advantage of the poor suckers.

I would point out that TRUMP! not only is well educated but extraordinarily successful, but naturally the envious among us refuse to see that because of their blind rage, so I won't bother. They'll just get mad.

YOU my friend are probably a poor sucker. Or you are like my brother. HATES woke and liberals and DEI so much that he isn't even listening anymore. To him if you don't see what Trump is doing is good, you're stupid.

Well I guess I'm stupid.

If you say so. Let the record show that I did not say it, you did.

And he says "it's because you hate the guy so much". I said no brother. YOU are the one who seems to hate liberals so much that you aren't even listening anymore.

Is anyone actually listening anymore? Is anyone worth listening to anymore?

And he's glad Trump is breaking the law getting gang members out. GLAD! Doesn't care! He's getting them out. Your side would never do it.

That's right bro. We would never break the law like this. And that should be a good thing.

Taking the time to chuckle politely at your naivete, thinking democrats would not break the law. It is to chortle.

 

[sealybobo]

And there you go again, unable to see more than one factor at a time. The tariffs are but one tool we can use to soften the inevitable blow somewhat. You seem to be thinking that slowing down before you hit a wall is stupid.

How would you do that, oh dictator? Just issue an edict from on high? Sure, that's a good idea.

It will temporarily adjust some things but ultimately even them out. We're still the biggest buyers in the world and no one's going to completely stop selling to us just because they have to charge higher prices.

Ah, yes, the old qualifier, "smart". That way you can claim that any economist that contradicts your blinkered world view is stupid.

I would point out that TRUMP! not only is well educated but extraordinarily successful, but naturally the envious among us refuse to see that because of their blind rage, so I won't bother. They'll just get mad.

If you say so. Let the record show that I did not say it, you did.

Is anyone actually listening anymore? Is anyone worth listening to anymore?

Taking the time to chuckle politely at your naivete, thinking democrats would not break the law. It is to chortle.

You guys stupidly start a trade war and then accuse us of not understanding that China is taking advantage of us. We understand. What we don't understand is why you stupidly started a trade war. OR, we told you trump would stupidly start a trade war.

Al Gore said it best. When he gut government waste he took a scalpel to government. Trump took chainsaw and made a whole lot of mistakes.

Which is why I laugh when you suggest that <13 would have died if Trump was the one who got us out of Afghanistan. LOL. Yea right. Because Trump is a well thought out planner.

I know you really look up to Trump and Bush and Reagan.

 

[hadit]

You guys stupidly start a trade war and then accuse us of not understanding that China is taking advantage of us. We understand. What we don't understand is why you stupidly started a trade war. OR, we told you trump would stupidly start a trade war.

TRUMP! said he would start a trade war and the result would ultimately be favorable for us. We're already seeing more revenue from the tariffs, and companies are lining up to give us better deals. I do believe end-stage TDS has completely shredded your mind.

Al Gore said it best. When he gut government waste he took a scalpel to government.

Sure, he did. And tell us again which programs did with less money the year after he carefully carved off such a little piece no one even noticed?

Trump took chainsaw and made a whole lot of mistakes.

Which is why I laugh when you suggest that <13 would have died if Trump was the one who got us out of Afghanistan. LOL. Yea right. Because Trump is a well thought out planner.

I know you really look up to Trump and Bush and Reagan.

And now you're ascribing things to me that are not mine. That's truly immature there. You know that, right?