The LOUDEST voice in this matter is the Cherokee Nation because they've said nothing.
They'd claim a US senator in a heartbeat. Poor Pogo...got ditched at his senior prom too.
That's not true. Cherokee genealogist Twila Barnes is calling Liz a liar!
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
Lizzy Parents: White
Lizzy Grandparents: White
Lizzy Great
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
Lizzy Parents: White
Lizzy Grandparents: White
Lizzy Great Grandparents from Cherokee Territory: White
Therefore, some other relative, not living in Cherokee territory....was a Cherokee????
That's your story? I don't believe even Lizzy is going that far
Who said anything about where they lived, Frank?
Cherokee territory (and we're still not talking Lenape, which I assume you've conceded) was kind of a large area...
-- which still doesn't include the artificial territory, the one we force-marched them to: Oklahoma. Which is where Warren's from.
Obviously you don't have to live in Cherokee territory to BE Cherokee. Who the **** knows where they lived? Who cares?
Your task of analyzing the DNA of thirty-three thousand people is I should think Sisyphustic enough.
Let us review:
Lizzy Parents: White
Lizzy Grandparents: White
Lizzy Great Grandparents from Cherokee Territory: White
Therefore, some other relative, not living in Cherokee territory....was a Cherokee????
Who was this imaginary person, Pogo?
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
But Lizzy Cheekbones made the claim, the burden of proof falls on HER!
Ummm, no. No such claim was made as a point of debate. That would be y'all.
Ya see, claiming one's ancestry contains some element can go a lot of ways. As you found out when you had to ignore 32,754 people so you could focus on two. Could be ancestor number 46. Could be number 117. Could be both, and/or others.
Claiming the negative though, that there's an absolute. That's a far higher standard, because now you have to eliminate everybody. If a single exception slips through, your point falls like a house of cards in a tornado.
Whooooosh.
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
But Lizzy Cheekbones made the claim, the burden of proof falls on HER!
Ummm, no. No such claim was made as a point of debate. That would be y'all.
Ya see, claiming one's ancestry contains some element can go a lot of ways. As you found out when you had to ignore 32,754 people so you could focus on two. Could be ancestor number 46. Could be number 117. Could be both, and/or others.
Claiming the negative though, that there's an absolute. That's a far higher standard, because now you have to eliminate everybody. If a single exception slips through, your point falls like a house of cards in a tornado.
Whooooosh.
Interesting. So you claim she has no interested in joining any tribes? Then WHY else would she have claimed she is a native American. She SAID it was too meet "others like her." LOL! You are really burying yourself with this one, POGO. I think you've bitten off more than you can chew, you little kitty cat.
Edit: GAH! Why can't I type today????
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
But Lizzy Cheekbones made the claim, the burden of proof falls on HER!
Ummm, no. No such claim was made as a point of debate. That would be y'all.
Ya see, claiming one's ancestry contains some element can go a lot of ways. As you found out when you had to ignore 32,754 people so you could focus on two. Could be ancestor number 46. Could be number 117. Could be both, and/or others.
Claiming the negative though, that there's an absolute. That's a far higher standard, because now you have to eliminate everybody. If a single exception slips through, your point falls like a house of cards in a tornado.
Whooooosh.
Interesting. So you claim she has no interested in joining any tribes? Then WHY else would she have claimed she is a native American. She SAID it was too meet "others like her." LOL! You are really burying yourself with this one, POGO. I think you've bitten off more than you can chew, you little kitty cat.
Edit: GAH! Why can't I type today????
None of that establishes the negative. Not a shred.
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
But Lizzy Cheekbones made the claim, the burden of proof falls on HER!
Ummm, no. No such claim was made as a point of debate. That would be y'all.
Ya see, claiming one's ancestry contains some element can go a lot of ways. As you found out when you had to ignore 32,754 people so you could focus on two. Could be ancestor number 46. Could be number 117. Could be both, and/or others.
Claiming the negative though, that there's an absolute. That's a far higher standard, because now you have to eliminate everybody. If a single exception slips through, your point falls like a house of cards in a tornado.
Whooooosh.
Interesting. So you claim she has no interested in joining any tribes? Then WHY else would she have claimed she is a native American. She SAID it was too meet "others like her." LOL! You are really burying yourself with this one, POGO. I think you've bitten off more than you can chew, you little kitty cat.
Edit: GAH! Why can't I type today????
None of that establishes the negative. Not a shred.
But the burden of proof falls on the lonely nutty housewife who imagined Cherokee ancestors.
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
Poor Pogo.....you do realize that SHE must prove her own contention?
I think I want to be Asian today. Maybe I can get a discount on some Chinese food or something! 
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
Poor Pogo.....you do realize that SHE must prove her own contention?
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
But Lizzy Cheekbones made the claim, the burden of proof falls on HER!
Ummm, no. No such claim was made as a point of debate. That would be y'all.
Ya see, claiming one's ancestry contains some element can go a lot of ways. As you found out when you had to ignore 32,754 people so you could focus on two. Could be ancestor number 46. Could be number 117. Could be both, and/or others.
Claiming the negative though, that there's an absolute. That's a far higher standard, because now you have to eliminate everybody. If a single exception slips through, your point falls like a house of cards in a tornado.
Whooooosh.
Interesting. So you claim she has no interested in joining any tribes? Then WHY else would she have claimed she is a native American. She SAID it was too meet "others like her." LOL! You are really burying yourself with this one, POGO. I think you've bitten off more than you can chew, you little kitty cat.
Edit: GAH! Why can't I type today????
None of that establishes the negative. Not a shred.
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
Poor Pogo.....you do realize that SHE must prove her own contention?
Poor Rooster. You do realize that declaring "she lied" IS a contention? And that to prove that contention it's necessary to prove the negative? And that we pointed all this out about a thousand posts ago?
Perhaps you don't...
I mean, really, what kind of person is she?
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
Poor Pogo.....you do realize that SHE must prove her own contention?
Poor Rooster. You do realize that declaring "she lied" IS a contention? And that to prove that contention it's necessary to prove the negative? And that we pointed all this out about a thousand posts ago?
Perhaps you don't...
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
Poor Pogo.....you do realize that SHE must prove her own contention?
Exactly. It is really not up to us to prove that she is NOT a minority. Lol! If that was the rule, then anyone could be anything they wanted, I guess.
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
Poor Pogo.....you do realize that SHE must prove her own contention?
Poor Rooster. You do realize that declaring "she lied" IS a contention? And that to prove that contention it's necessary to prove the negative? And that we pointed all this out about a thousand posts ago?
Perhaps you don't...
Poor Pogo.....
She made the contention, she has failed to prove it, indeed she has admitted that she MADE said content on the basis of "Gramma's stories".
You really suck at this kid.
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
Poor Pogo.....you do realize that SHE must prove her own contention?
Exactly. It is really not up to us to prove that she is NOT a minority. Lol! If that was the rule, then anyone could be anything they wanted, I guess.
Rotsa ruck. If they buy it pick me up a Kung Pao.
How come you're moving the goalposts to "minority" now? The contention is "she lied" about having N-Am ancestry. Whether that makes a "minority" or not prolly depends on wacko AA guidelines, but it's not your position. Now I can see why the original position is indefensible. Always was. But the classy thing to do is say, "Gaa! What was I thinking, Pogo?? Of course you're right, jeepers, what a stupid".
It's pretty much easy to deduce considering how everything went down.
You tell us, frank. Wasn't my claim. You're the crowd crowing "she lied". Well in order to know that you'd have to know about, and eliminate, one by one, all those 32,756 people above.
You have... let's add 'em up... carry the zero...
Two.
And the word "white" that a census taker wrote on his form.
To quote one of my favorite Fox Noise moments -- is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
Poor Pogo.....you do realize that SHE must prove her own contention?
Poor Rooster. You do realize that declaring "she lied" IS a contention? And that to prove that contention it's necessary to prove the negative? And that we pointed all this out about a thousand posts ago?
Perhaps you don't...
Poor Pogo.....
She made the contention, she has failed to prove it, indeed she has admitted that she MADE said content on the basis of "Gramma's stories".
You really suck at this kid.
She doesn't need to prove it. It wasn't an assertion put it into debate. Or anything else that matters.
Just as I don't need to "prove" Black Irish. It's irrelevant to anything.
