Electric vehicle subsidies under threat. MAGA

[fncceo]

Yet another example of Trump's contempt for sound responsible governance and public policy.

Electric cars are more of a net energy and resource loss than gas, dumbass.

But they make me feel so ... superior.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Yet another example of Trump's contempt for sound responsible governance and public policy.

Electric cars are more of a net energy and resource loss than gas, dumbass.

But they make me feel so ... superior.

Needs a Turbo Hayabusa engine in it.

 

[Lesh]

“For the US overall, an electric vehicle is much cleaner than a gasoline vehicle, even when you take into account the emissions from natural gas, coal, or however else you’re generating the electricity,” says Dave Reichmuth, a senior engineer in the nonprofit's clean vehicles program. And as the electric grid moves away from dirty fuel sources, the gap is widening. The UCS study looks beyond driving-related emissions to consider the entire supply chain that goes into making cars go. For the gas guys, that means all the emissions associated with extracting crude oil are included. For electrics, the UCS uses power plant emissions data from the EPA, and includes the environmental cost of mining coal, for example. Because different chunks of the country make power in different ways, the results vary by region.

Look Here: Even More Evidence That Electric Cars Could Save the Planet

 

[Marion Morrison]

“For the US overall, an electric vehicle is much cleaner than a gasoline vehicle, even when you take into account the emissions from natural gas, coal, or however else you’re generating the electricity,” says Dave Reichmuth, a senior engineer in the nonprofit's clean vehicles program. And as the electric grid moves away from dirty fuel sources, the gap is widening. The UCS study looks beyond driving-related emissions to consider the entire supply chain that goes into making cars go. For the gas guys, that means all the emissions associated with extracting crude oil are included. For electrics, the UCS uses power plant emissions data from the EPA, and includes the environmental cost of mining coal, for example. Because different chunks of the country make power in different ways, the results vary by region.

Look Here: Even More Evidence That Electric Cars Could Save the Planet

He wouldn't happen to have some skin in the game, would he?

"says Dave Reichmuth, a senior engineer in the nonprofit's clean vehicles program."

 

[fncceo]

“For the US overall, an electric vehicle is much cleaner than a gasoline vehicle, even when you take into account the emissions from natural gas, coal, or however else you’re generating the electricity,” says Dave Reichmuth, a senior engineer in the nonprofit's clean vehicles program. And as the electric grid moves away from dirty fuel sources, the gap is widening. The UCS study looks beyond driving-related emissions to consider the entire supply chain that goes into making cars go. For the gas guys, that means all the emissions associated with extracting crude oil are included. For electrics, the UCS uses power plant emissions data from the EPA, and includes the environmental cost of mining coal, for example. Because different chunks of the country make power in different ways, the results vary by region.

Look Here: Even More Evidence That Electric Cars Could Save the Planet

The winner saves the planet

 

[iceberg]

Yet another example of Trump's contempt for sound responsible governance and public policy.

if you can't make a profitable product w/o government intervention, not my fault. stop using my tax dollars to pay for it. when it can take root and grow and become a true benefit, then it will take off and be all that it will likely one day be.

 

[iceberg]

“For the US overall, an electric vehicle is much cleaner than a gasoline vehicle, even when you take into account the emissions from natural gas, coal, or however else you’re generating the electricity,” says Dave Reichmuth, a senior engineer in the nonprofit's clean vehicles program. And as the electric grid moves away from dirty fuel sources, the gap is widening. The UCS study looks beyond driving-related emissions to consider the entire supply chain that goes into making cars go. For the gas guys, that means all the emissions associated with extracting crude oil are included. For electrics, the UCS uses power plant emissions data from the EPA, and includes the environmental cost of mining coal, for example. Because different chunks of the country make power in different ways, the results vary by region.

Look Here: Even More Evidence That Electric Cars Could Save the Planet

The winner saves the planet

i'll buy THAT for a dollar!

 

[iceberg]

Yet another example of Trump's contempt for sound responsible governance and public policy.

I thought you clowns were against corporate welfare?

Throwing money at huge corporations that don't need it and won't invest it to help the country is called corporate welfare. Grants to companies that invest in developing things we need is called priming the pump.

great. it's primed. even remote african villages are aware of electric vehicles and their greatness.

lets see if the baby can walk now.

 

[Manonthestreet]

It might delay widespread use of electric cars for a little while, but Trump won't be president much longer, and we can return to sanity with the inauguration of our next president.

So, they won't be adopted unless the taxpayers subsidize them?

Gasoline powered cars wouldn't have been accepted without tax payers subsidizing the oil companies. There were no fueling stations and no infrastructure to keep them supplied, and very few suitable roads for cars. Without a concentrated effort by the government to support oil companies and car manufacturers with huge grants and tax incentives, we wouldn't have become the industrial giant we became in the early 20th century.

FDR's depression-era National Recovery Act granted lucrative federal contracts and some subsidies to that era's auto industry.

Are we in a depression

 

[Manonthestreet]

What they accomplished was waste . Ford and GM rushed crap to the market that wasn't rdy for prime time to get the subsidy, like the Volt and as a result still dont have a decent electric option.

 

[Lesh]

Yet another example of Trump's contempt for sound responsible governance and public policy.

if you can't make a profitable product w/o government intervention, not my fault. stop using my tax dollars to pay for it. when it can take root and grow and become a true benefit, then it will take off and be all that it will likely one day be.

Ya mean like nuke plants, massive hydro-electric dams, a national highway system?

Oh wait...you don't...

 

[Lesh]

Maybe you folks love dumping dollars into the gas tank of your gas guzzlers...I don't. Maybe you like breathing the crap that comes out of the tailpipe. I don't.

My son drives a Prius that is nearly 10 years old. Battery has never needed replacement. He pays almost nothing for gas. When the Prius came out is WAS nearly unaffordable. Now it costs less than a lot of gas guzzlers

I'm just having a hard time finding a problem here.

 

[iceberg]

Maybe you folks love dumping dollars into the gas tank of your gas guzzlers...I don't. Maybe you like breathing the crap that comes out of the tailpipe. I don't.

My son drives a Prius that is nearly 10 years old. Battery has never needed replacement. He pays almost nothing for gas. When the Prius came out is WAS nearly unaffordable. Now it costs less than a lot of gas guzzlers

I'm just having a hard time finding a problem here.

then go be happy with your solutions to your problems and leave everyone else the **** alone. if you want a prius then buy it. i don't need to have to HELP you buy it, however.

 

[BluesLegend]

Maybe you folks love dumping dollars into the gas tank of your gas guzzlers...I don't. Maybe you like breathing the crap that comes out of the tailpipe. I don't.

My son drives a Prius that is nearly 10 years old. Battery has never needed replacement. He pays almost nothing for gas. When the Prius came out is WAS nearly unaffordable. Now it costs less than a lot of gas guzzlers

I'm just having a hard time finding a problem here.

Manufacturing then disposing of your BS 'green' car batteries is toxic as freaking hell. You idiots clearly have no idea of the environmental damage and highly toxic side effects of these so called 'green' electric cars. Go ahead bury your ignorant heads in the sand and pretend you are 'green'.

 

[Claudette]

Yet another example of Trump's contempt for sound responsible governance and public policy.

if you can't make a profitable product w/o government intervention, not my fault. stop using my tax dollars to pay for it. when it can take root and grow and become a true benefit, then it will take off and be all that it will likely one day be.

I agree. Tax dollars shouldn't be used to help any company. What that company gets through tax loop holes should be all they get.

Don't like the loop holes then get Govt. to get rid of them.

 

[22lcidw]

It might delay widespread use of electric cars for a little while, but Trump won't be president much longer, and we can return to sanity with the inauguration of our next president.

So, they won't be adopted unless the taxpayers subsidize them?

Gasoline powered cars wouldn't have been accepted without tax payers subsidizing the oil companies. There were no fueling stations and no infrastructure to keep them supplied, and very few suitable roads for cars. Without a concentrated effort by the government to support oil companies and car manufacturers with huge grants and tax incentives, we wouldn't have become the industrial giant we became in the early 20th century.

The size of government was miniscule in the early 20th century. Taxation was low and we were in the middle of industrializing. The work force compared to many decades later produced, built and created at a cheap price. What you typed is vague. Also W. Bush signed a Hydrogen fueled car initiative that was interesting, but when the Progressive Socialists took over after the 2008 election landslide they deep sixed it.

 

[Blues Man]

Yet another example of Trump's contempt for sound responsible governance and public policy.

if you can't make a profitable product w/o government intervention, not my fault. stop using my tax dollars to pay for it. when it can take root and grow and become a true benefit, then it will take off and be all that it will likely one day be.

Ya mean like nuke plants, massive hydro-electric dams, a national highway system?

Oh wait...you don't...

Those aren't products for the market, Idiot.

 

[Blues Man]

Maybe you folks love dumping dollars into the gas tank of your gas guzzlers...I don't. Maybe you like breathing the crap that comes out of the tailpipe. I don't.

My son drives a Prius that is nearly 10 years old. Battery has never needed replacement. He pays almost nothing for gas. When the Prius came out is WAS nearly unaffordable. Now it costs less than a lot of gas guzzlers

I'm just having a hard time finding a problem here.

 

[iceberg]

Yet another example of Trump's contempt for sound responsible governance and public policy.

if you can't make a profitable product w/o government intervention, not my fault. stop using my tax dollars to pay for it. when it can take root and grow and become a true benefit, then it will take off and be all that it will likely one day be.

Ya mean like nuke plants, massive hydro-electric dams, a national highway system?

Oh wait...you don't...

Those aren't products for the market, Idiot.

nope. i looked.

no nuclear plants, super highway systems or hydro-electric damns for sale online anywhere. not even amazon.

best i can do:
https://www.amazon.com/Century-Ultimate-Hydropower-Toolkit-River/dp/1422053652/?tag=usmb-20

 

[LeftofLeft]

"President Donald Trump has threatened to kill one of the signature efforts of the Obama administration, but today White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow confirmed it: Trump will end subsidies for electric cars.

The move, which Kudlow said would happen in 2020 or 2021, covers other items including renewable energy sources. He revealed he plans in response to a question about what the administration plans to do in response to General Motors’ recently revealed plant closings and employee layoffs."

Trump to End Electric Vehicle Subsidies by 2021 | TheDetroitBureau.com

I would rather see working Americans with long commutes to work get the maximum subsidy regardless of how they get there. That is a higher priority.