Dr Martin Luther King saved this country

[Avatar4321]

Ive been reflecting more on this. God saved this nation again and again. He used MLK Jr to do it this time.

That gives me hope. Because it tells me that God isn't through with us.

 

[kaz]

Do you have any real evidence to back what you are saying up, or are you just conjecturing?

I don't search for links for basic history for willfully ignorant liberals. It's my expectation you know history or you're willing to learn that on your own. If you aren't willing, I don't really care. The loss is yours. I am on Google all the time when I post. I will ask someone if I Google and it doesn't support what they said. Obviously you didn't do that because it would have verified what I said.

I have found NO evidence to support what you have posted. Furthermore , your assessment of me as a liberal, and ignorant of history borders on comical.

Well, you Google like a liberal. So let's walk through the steps.

The KKK was brought down because once the FBI started focusing on them, they were flooded with inside informants. The KKK leaders couldn't go to the bathroom without the FBI already knowing where they were headed. Anyone who knows anything about the fall of the KKK from a dominant southern force to a fringe group knows that basic bit of history.

These were members of the KKK. Why did they join? Why did they turn on the KKK? Did they think it was a social club? Explain how with a basic knowledge of history it is "NO evidence" that they were racists who once they realized how far the KKK was going, they were appalled and when the FBI knocked on their doors they cooperated.

 

[kaz]

Ive been reflecting more on this. God saved this nation again and again. He used MLK Jr to do it this time.

That gives me hope. Because it tells me that God isn't through with us.

I've wondered if with the rise of worldwide socialism if we are heading into another Dark Ages. We tend to think in terms of a hundred years being a long time, but our civilization will be here in a hundred thousand.

Maybe we are just heading into a dark period and maybe it's permanent, but I prefer to think that over thinking that humanity is screwed, which is how it looks now.

MLK did a great thing though, I'm with you on that. Doing it through peace was so much more effective.

 

[kaz]

Do you have any real evidence to back what you are saying up, or are you just conjecturing?

I don't search for links for basic history for willfully ignorant liberals. It's my expectation you know history or you're willing to learn that on your own. If you aren't willing, I don't really care. The loss is yours. I am on Google all the time when I post. I will ask someone if I Google and it doesn't support what they said. Obviously you didn't do that because it would have verified what I said.

You also know that lynching used to be a fun spectacle that provided amusement for a whole community, right?

Not a liberal, LOL.

A stupid, snarky point that is factually inaccurate and has nothing to with anything anyone said. If you want to claim you're not a duck, stop quacking.

KKK used violence, MLK used peace. That was the way to win, not just be right.

Everyone has weaknesses, most people are basically good. Even in the KKK.

We hate the terrorists, but would we really want to see their children running from burning homes in the middle of the night? Being a racist doesn't mean you want that.

 

[American4Americ]

I don't search for links for basic history for willfully ignorant liberals. It's my expectation you know history or you're willing to learn that on your own. If you aren't willing, I don't really care. The loss is yours. I am on Google all the time when I post. I will ask someone if I Google and it doesn't support what they said. Obviously you didn't do that because it would have verified what I said.

You also know that lynching used to be a fun spectacle that provided amusement for a whole community, right?

Not a liberal, LOL.

A stupid, snarky point that is factually inaccurate and has nothing to with anything anyone said. If you want to claim you're not a duck, stop quacking.

KKK used violence, MLK used peace. That was the way to win, not just be right.

Everyone has weaknesses, most people are basically good. Even in the KKK.

We hate the terrorists, but would we really want to see their children running from burning homes in the middle of the night? Being a racist doesn't mean you want that.

Still not a single link. Your lack of evidence and appeal to emotion is reminiscent of the early progressives, people who actively engaged in lynching. Most of the people lynched were lynched for no reason as well...

Project MUSE - <i>Lynching and Spectacle: Witnessing Racial Violence in the Jim Crow South, 1890-1940</i> (review)

Lynching of Jesse Washington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ida B. Wells - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Author of A Red Record

 

[kaz]

You also know that lynching used to be a fun spectacle that provided amusement for a whole community, right?

Not a liberal, LOL.

A stupid, snarky point that is factually inaccurate and has nothing to with anything anyone said. If you want to claim you're not a duck, stop quacking.

KKK used violence, MLK used peace. That was the way to win, not just be right.

Everyone has weaknesses, most people are basically good. Even in the KKK.

We hate the terrorists, but would we really want to see their children running from burning homes in the middle of the night? Being a racist doesn't mean you want that.

Still not a single link. Your lack of evidence and appeal to emotion is reminiscent of the early progressives, people who actively engaged in lynching. Most of the people lynched were lynched for no reason as well...

Project MUSE - <i>Lynching and Spectacle: Witnessing Racial Violence in the Jim Crow South, 1890-1940</i> (review)

Lynching of Jesse Washington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ida B. Wells - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Author of A Red Record

Your links don't contradict anything I said. If anything, they support it. As is typically the case, the KKK was driven by a small percentage, the rest were sickened by what they did, which is why when they had the chance, they sold out the KKK leaders. MLK was a great man to live in that environment and advocate peaceful solutions.

As for your request for links, you're going to have to be more specific on your ignorance you're asking me to cure for you. Please identify which point is outside your realm of knowledge.

Point 1) The KKK was brought down by the FBI, who once they started trying to penetrate KKK groups were assisted by endless informants in the KKK.

Point 2) The informants were mostly racists since they did join the KKK on their own.

Point 3) The informants were against the level of violence the leaders went to, which is why they so willingly informed on them.

As for point 1, it's basic historical fact, if you don't know that, I'm not Googling it for you any more than I'm going to Google who won WWII. But other than that, let me know what you aren't grasping.

 

[rightwinger]

Not a liberal, LOL.

A stupid, snarky point that is factually inaccurate and has nothing to with anything anyone said. If you want to claim you're not a duck, stop quacking.

KKK used violence, MLK used peace. That was the way to win, not just be right.

Everyone has weaknesses, most people are basically good. Even in the KKK.

We hate the terrorists, but would we really want to see their children running from burning homes in the middle of the night? Being a racist doesn't mean you want that.

Still not a single link. Your lack of evidence and appeal to emotion is reminiscent of the early progressives, people who actively engaged in lynching. Most of the people lynched were lynched for no reason as well...

Project MUSE - <i>Lynching and Spectacle: Witnessing Racial Violence in the Jim Crow South, 1890-1940</i> (review)

Lynching of Jesse Washington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ida B. Wells - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Author of A Red Record

Your links don't contradict anything I said. If anything, they support it. As is typically the case, the KKK was driven by a small percentage, the rest were sickened by what they did, which is why when they had the chance, they sold out the KKK leaders. MLK was a great man to live in that environment and advocate peaceful solutions.

As for your request for links, you're going to have to be more specific on your ignorance you're asking me to cure for you. Please identify which point is outside your realm of knowledge.

Point 1) The KKK was brought down by the FBI, who once they started trying to penetrate KKK groups were assisted by endless informants in the KKK.

Point 2) The informants were mostly racists since they did join the KKK on their own.

Point 3) The informants were against the level of violence the leaders went to, which is why they so willingly informed on them.

As for point 1, it's basic historical fact, if you don't know that, I'm not Googling it for you any more than I'm going to Google who won WWII. But other than that, let me know what you aren't grasping.

Stop making informants out to be heroes

They informed for the same reasons most people inform....to save their own ass

 

[Truthmatters]

she still loves those racists

 

[American4Americ]

Not a liberal, LOL.

A stupid, snarky point that is factually inaccurate and has nothing to with anything anyone said. If you want to claim you're not a duck, stop quacking.

KKK used violence, MLK used peace. That was the way to win, not just be right.

Everyone has weaknesses, most people are basically good. Even in the KKK.

We hate the terrorists, but would we really want to see their children running from burning homes in the middle of the night? Being a racist doesn't mean you want that.

Still not a single link. Your lack of evidence and appeal to emotion is reminiscent of the early progressives, people who actively engaged in lynching. Most of the people lynched were lynched for no reason as well...

Project MUSE - <i>Lynching and Spectacle: Witnessing Racial Violence in the Jim Crow South, 1890-1940</i> (review)

Lynching of Jesse Washington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ida B. Wells - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Author of A Red Record

Your links don't contradict anything I said. If anything, they support it. As is typically the case, the KKK was driven by a small percentage, the rest were sickened by what they did, which is why when they had the chance, they sold out the KKK leaders. MLK was a great man to live in that environment and advocate peaceful solutions.

As for your request for links, you're going to have to be more specific on your ignorance you're asking me to cure for you. Please identify which point is outside your realm of knowledge.

Point 1) The KKK was brought down by the FBI, who once they started trying to penetrate KKK groups were assisted by endless informants in the KKK.

Point 2) The informants were mostly racists since they did join the KKK on their own.

Point 3) The informants were against the level of violence the leaders went to, which is why they so willingly informed on them.

As for point 1, it's basic historical fact, if you don't know that, I'm not Googling it for you any more than I'm going to Google who won WWII. But other than that, let me know what you aren't grasping.

Oh, by "racists" you mean informants. I suppose they did it out of the goodness of their hearts?

 

[Redfish]

Ive been reflecting more on this. God saved this nation again and again. He used MLK Jr to do it this time.

That gives me hope. Because it tells me that God isn't through with us.

 

[Redfish]

MLK did some good for the country, his message was correct and Blblical.

But to claim that he saved the country is really streching it.

 

[Truthmatters]

he saved this country from racists like you

 

[kaz]

Still not a single link. Your lack of evidence and appeal to emotion is reminiscent of the early progressives, people who actively engaged in lynching. Most of the people lynched were lynched for no reason as well...

Project MUSE - <i>Lynching and Spectacle: Witnessing Racial Violence in the Jim Crow South, 1890-1940</i> (review)

Lynching of Jesse Washington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ida B. Wells - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Author of A Red Record

Your links don't contradict anything I said. If anything, they support it. As is typically the case, the KKK was driven by a small percentage, the rest were sickened by what they did, which is why when they had the chance, they sold out the KKK leaders. MLK was a great man to live in that environment and advocate peaceful solutions.

As for your request for links, you're going to have to be more specific on your ignorance you're asking me to cure for you. Please identify which point is outside your realm of knowledge.

Point 1) The KKK was brought down by the FBI, who once they started trying to penetrate KKK groups were assisted by endless informants in the KKK.

Point 2) The informants were mostly racists since they did join the KKK on their own.

Point 3) The informants were against the level of violence the leaders went to, which is why they so willingly informed on them.

As for point 1, it's basic historical fact, if you don't know that, I'm not Googling it for you any more than I'm going to Google who won WWII. But other than that, let me know what you aren't grasping.

Stop making informants out to be heroes

They informed for the same reasons most people inform....to save their own ass

Yes, by calling them "racists" I was calling them "heroes." LOL. What a moron.

 

[kaz]

Still not a single link. Your lack of evidence and appeal to emotion is reminiscent of the early progressives, people who actively engaged in lynching. Most of the people lynched were lynched for no reason as well...

Project MUSE - <i>Lynching and Spectacle: Witnessing Racial Violence in the Jim Crow South, 1890-1940</i> (review)

Lynching of Jesse Washington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ida B. Wells - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Author of A Red Record

Your links don't contradict anything I said. If anything, they support it. As is typically the case, the KKK was driven by a small percentage, the rest were sickened by what they did, which is why when they had the chance, they sold out the KKK leaders. MLK was a great man to live in that environment and advocate peaceful solutions.

As for your request for links, you're going to have to be more specific on your ignorance you're asking me to cure for you. Please identify which point is outside your realm of knowledge.

Point 1) The KKK was brought down by the FBI, who once they started trying to penetrate KKK groups were assisted by endless informants in the KKK.

Point 2) The informants were mostly racists since they did join the KKK on their own.

Point 3) The informants were against the level of violence the leaders went to, which is why they so willingly informed on them.

As for point 1, it's basic historical fact, if you don't know that, I'm not Googling it for you any more than I'm going to Google who won WWII. But other than that, let me know what you aren't grasping.

Oh, by "racists" you mean informants. I suppose they did it out of the goodness of their hearts?

Actually, I said why they did it. Not only do you not Google but you don't read posts you're responding to.

 

[rightwinger]

MLK did some good for the country, his message was correct and Blblical.

But to claim that he saved the country is really streching it.

If MLK had not stood in the path of armed retalliation for the abuses of Jim Crow what would have happened to this country?

They blew up a black church...lets go burn some white churches
They hung an innocent black man.....lets go hang some white men
That all white jury just let off those murderers.....lets go get them
You refuse to serve blacks?....lets see if you still have a restaurant tomorrow

 

[Redfish]

MLK did some good for the country, his message was correct and Blblical.

But to claim that he saved the country is really streching it.

If MLK had not stood in the path of armed retalliation for the abuses of Jim Crow what would have happened to this country?

They blew up a black church...lets go burn some white churches
They hung an innocent black man.....lets go hang some white men
That all white jury just let off those murderers.....lets go get them
You refuse to serve blacks?....lets see if you still have a restaurant tomorrow

A lot of that kind of thing happened BECAUSE of MLK. Not saying it is ever right when either side does it. But King did cause a lot of violence even though he preached against it.

I lived through that period. It was a bad time in the USA, King helped with his message of non-violence, but he did not save the country.

 

[rightwinger]

MLK did some good for the country, his message was correct and Blblical.

But to claim that he saved the country is really streching it.

If MLK had not stood in the path of armed retalliation for the abuses of Jim Crow what would have happened to this country?

They blew up a black church...lets go burn some white churches
They hung an innocent black man.....lets go hang some white men
That all white jury just let off those murderers.....lets go get them
You refuse to serve blacks?....lets see if you still have a restaurant tomorrow

A lot of that kind of thing happened BECAUSE of MLK. Not saying it is ever right when either side does it. But King did cause a lot of violence even though he preached against it.

I lived through that period. It was a bad time in the USA, King helped with his message of non-violence, but he did not save the country.

Really?

I never heard that story. Which violence did Dr King cause?

 

[Redfish]

If MLK had not stood in the path of armed retalliation for the abuses of Jim Crow what would have happened to this country?

They blew up a black church...lets go burn some white churches
They hung an innocent black man.....lets go hang some white men
That all white jury just let off those murderers.....lets go get them
You refuse to serve blacks?....lets see if you still have a restaurant tomorrow

A lot of that kind of thing happened BECAUSE of MLK. Not saying it is ever right when either side does it. But King did cause a lot of violence even though he preached against it.

I lived through that period. It was a bad time in the USA, King helped with his message of non-violence, but he did not save the country.

Really?

I never heard that story. Which violence did Dr King cause?

You really have to ask that? Were you alive during that time? Even though his message was good and correct, it did stir up a lot of racial tension on both sides. Blacks and whites died. It was a terrible time.

Could integration have happened peacefully and naturally? We will never know. But having lived through that, I think it could have.

 

[rightwinger]

A lot of that kind of thing happened BECAUSE of MLK. Not saying it is ever right when either side does it. But King did cause a lot of violence even though he preached against it.

I lived through that period. It was a bad time in the USA, King helped with his message of non-violence, but he did not save the country.

Really?

I never heard that story. Which violence did Dr King cause?

You really have to ask that? Were you alive during that time? Even though his message was good and correct, it did stir up a lot of racial tension on both sides. Blacks and whites died. It was a terrible time.

Could integration have happened peacefully and naturally? We will never know. But having lived through that, I think it could have.

Oh I get your point

Because he protested he caused those whites to come and bust heads because of all the "tension"

Stupid Dr King should have followed your advice and just ignored the issue.........would have happened on its own

 

[paperview]

Really?

I never heard that story. Which violence did Dr King cause?

You really have to ask that? Were you alive during that time? Even though his message was good and correct, it did stir up a lot of racial tension on both sides. Blacks and whites died. It was a terrible time.

Could integration have happened peacefully and naturally? We will never know. But having lived through that, I think it could have.

Oh I get your point

Because he protested he caused those whites to come and bust heads because of all the "tension"

Stupid Dr King should have followed your advice and just ignored the issue.........would have happened on its own

You see, if MLK hadn't been so UPPITY, those whites wouldn't have firebombed the churches and houses, burnt crosses or caused all those white jurors to let murderers go free.