Doubts About Evolution Widespread

[harmonica]

Evolution is historical or forensics science. It's circumstantial evidence like what we see and hear in a criminal justice case when there is no direct evidence.. None of it is observable, testable nor falsifiable. For example, ToE does not explain well why today's apes and chimps are not bipedal, but somehow became bipedal in the past. What we observe today is supposed to reflect the past in their thinking, but only if it fits the ToE. That's circular reasoning and a fallacy.

creation is a fairytale--not evolution

 

[Hollie]

Evolution is historical or forensics science.

That’s a slogan you copied from charlatans at one of your fundamentalist ID’iot / creation ministries, right?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That’s a slogan you copied from charlatans at one of your fundamentalist ID’iot / creation ministries, right?

Actually, everything he posts is grifted directly from creation.com. many times I have caught him plagiarizing that site verbatim. And then I will ask a few questions to see if he even understands thw material, and he always fails badly.

 

[Crepitus]

Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll

We can see why.

 

[Crepitus]

Evolution is a Fact

God is a Theory

Then why do they call it Theory of Evolution?

From Wikipedia:
scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be repeatedly tested and verified in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Where possible, theories are tested under controlled conditions in an experiment.[1][2] In circumstances not amenable to experimental testing, theories are evaluated through principles of abductive reasoning. Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.[3]

The meaning of the term scientific theory (often contracted to theory for brevity) as used in the disciplines of science is significantly different from the common vernacular usage of theory.[4][Note 1] In everyday speech, theory can imply an explanation that represents an unsubstantiated and speculative guess,[4] whereas in science it describes an explanation that has been tested and widely accepted as valid. These different usages are comparable to the opposing usages of prediction in science versus common speech, where it denotes a mere hope.

 

[rightwinger]

Evolution is a Fact

God is a Theory

Then why do they call it Theory of Evolution?

The concept that evolution occurs is undeniable and an established fact

Simple creatures existed before complex creatures. That is a fact

How and why evolution occurs is still a theory

God is, at best, a theory
Most likely a fable

 

[james bond]

Evolution is a Fact

God is a Theory

Then why do they call it Theory of Evolution?

From Wikipedia:
scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be repeatedly tested and verified in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Where possible, theories are tested under controlled conditions in an experiment.[1][2] In circumstances not amenable to experimental testing, theories are evaluated through principles of abductive reasoning. Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.[3]

The meaning of the term scientific theory (often contracted to theory for brevity) as used in the disciplines of science is significantly different from the common vernacular usage of theory.[4][Note 1] In everyday speech, theory can imply an explanation that represents an unsubstantiated and speculative guess,[4] whereas in science it describes an explanation that has been tested and widely accepted as valid. These different usages are comparable to the opposing usages of prediction in science versus common speech, where it denotes a mere hope.

Under that definition, then we should not have any theory of evolution regarding birds from dinosaurs nor humans from monkeys. Under ToE, we're supposed to have birds from dinosaurs, i.e. macroevolution. These secular scientists who believe it thought they could turn a chicken into a donosaur (cool idea), but have not turned been able to do so. In fact, there is nothing natural about it as we do not see any chickens become dinosaurs. OTOH, creation scientists have shown that the chicken came before the egg because the protein that is on an eggshell can only come from the glands of a chicken. This is natural and can be repeatedly tested.

 

[james bond]

Evolution is a Fact

God is a Theory

Then why do they call it Theory of Evolution?

The concept that evolution occurs is undeniable and an established fact

Simple creatures existed before complex creatures. That is a fact

How and why evolution occurs is still a theory

God is, at best, a theory
Most likely a fable

When you say "complex creatures," are you referring to birds from dinosaurs and humans from monkeys? These are the only two examples of macroevolution. Or are you referring to the dogs from canids, cats from pseudaelurus and natural selection? None of former has been observed nor have had success via experiment.

OTOH, we have today's population size of 6.5 billion fits reproduction from 8 human beings Noah and his family after around 4,500 years. We have the universe in a flat shape and expanding without no letup in sight as stated in the Bible or from God's word. We have marine fossils on the top of Mt. Everest which fits the evidence of a global flood.

 

[james bond]

creation is a fairytale--not evolution

Evolution isn't real science. It's based on false assumptions. GIGO - garbage in, garbage out.

 

[james bond]

Apparently you never had 7th grade science class.


Evolution is a Fact and a Theory

I did and no where did I learn that we systematically eliminate opposing scientists and their arguments. As I've said many times, science is about argument to see who has the best theory. Since secular or atheist scientists have no one to oppose them anymore, they are usually wrong. No one can see what happened billions or millions of years ago, but they should be able to test and replicate it if it did. The fact is it has not been done.

The real myth is today's Neo-Darwinian macro-evolution belief system which is heavily popularized by today’s self-appointed “science experts,” the popular media, academia and certain government agencies. These so-called experts find “overwhelming” or even merely unequivocal support in the data of empirical science and label them facts when it is nothing of the kind. Today, people believe global warming, some giant asteroid or a super volcano will be the end of us. The chances are that it won't because global warming helps plants grow. That is testable and observable. As for the asteroid and volcano, chances of both are slim but you won't have to look far to find the chicken littles in the above groups I mentioned.

 

[progressive hunter]

Dubitable Darwin? Why Some Smart, Nonreligious People Doubt the Theory of Evolution

https://www.theguardian.com/science/political-science/2017/sep/05/questioning-evolution-is-neither-science-denial-nor-the-preserve-of-creationists

The Problem With Evolution: Where Have We Gone Wrong?

Doubts about evolution widespread even amongst non-religious people

The doubts are growing even among the non-religious. I am not a Creationist or subscriber to Intelligent Design, but , after reviewing the available evidence, I have doubts of my own.

not sure if youve seen this, but this is a good series that details not just the flaws but the outright lies taught by evolution,,,

be forewarned he is a baptist and gets the holyer than thow attitude, just skip over those,,,he also provides all the footnotes to back it up


The Creation Seminar (Kent Hovind) - YouTube

 

[james bond]

so if you don't believe in evolution, you must believe a fully formed human just ''appeared'' like a Star Trek energizer !!!!!!!!!! hahahahahhahahahah
and people doubt EVOLUTION ???!!!!!!!!
they think is evolution unbelievable???--but think ''energizing'' humans IS believable??!!
hahahahhahahahhaah

The quantum mechanics people believe quantum particles pop in and out of existence and that's how they form universes and cosmic inflation just happened to put Earth in the right place with its sun and moon. As for humans from dust, the atheist scientist Neil DeGrasse Tyson believes we are from stardust. Yet, he can't explain how we started to live. We needed God's breath of life for that. So far, no one has been able to create a living adult human nor bring a dead person back to life.

 

[Crepitus]

Evolution is a Fact

God is a Theory

Then why do they call it Theory of Evolution?

From Wikipedia:
scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be repeatedly tested and verified in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Where possible, theories are tested under controlled conditions in an experiment.[1][2] In circumstances not amenable to experimental testing, theories are evaluated through principles of abductive reasoning. Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.[3]

The meaning of the term scientific theory (often contracted to theory for brevity) as used in the disciplines of science is significantly different from the common vernacular usage of theory.[4][Note 1] In everyday speech, theory can imply an explanation that represents an unsubstantiated and speculative guess,[4] whereas in science it describes an explanation that has been tested and widely accepted as valid. These different usages are comparable to the opposing usages of prediction in science versus common speech, where it denotes a mere hope.

Under that definition, then we should not have any theory of evolution regarding birds from dinosaurs nor humans from monkeys. Under ToE, we're supposed to have birds from dinosaurs, i.e. macroevolution. These secular scientists who believe it thought they could turn a chicken into a donosaur (cool idea), but have not turned been able to do so. In fact, there is nothing natural about it as we do not see any chickens become dinosaurs. OTOH, creation scientists have shown that the chicken came before the egg because the protein that is on an eggshell can only come from the glands of a chicken. This is natural and can be repeatedly tested.

Lol, are you deliberately misinterpreting the definition or do you really not understand it?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Evolution is a Fact

God is a Theory

Then why do they call it Theory of Evolution?

From Wikipedia:
scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be repeatedly tested and verified in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Where possible, theories are tested under controlled conditions in an experiment.[1][2] In circumstances not amenable to experimental testing, theories are evaluated through principles of abductive reasoning. Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.[3]

The meaning of the term scientific theory (often contracted to theory for brevity) as used in the disciplines of science is significantly different from the common vernacular usage of theory.[4][Note 1] In everyday speech, theory can imply an explanation that represents an unsubstantiated and speculative guess,[4] whereas in science it describes an explanation that has been tested and widely accepted as valid. These different usages are comparable to the opposing usages of prediction in science versus common speech, where it denotes a mere hope.

Under that definition, then we should not have any theory of evolution regarding birds from dinosaurs nor humans from monkeys. Under ToE, we're supposed to have birds from dinosaurs, i.e. macroevolution. These secular scientists who believe it thought they could turn a chicken into a donosaur (cool idea), but have not turned been able to do so. In fact, there is nothing natural about it as we do not see any chickens become dinosaurs. OTOH, creation scientists have shown that the chicken came before the egg because the protein that is on an eggshell can only come from the glands of a chicken. This is natural and can be repeatedly tested.

Lol, are you deliberately misinterpreting the definition or do you really not understand it?

He really does not understand it. Bond knows less than nothing about evolution. He says things that would make a 7th grader point and laugh at him.

 

[progressive hunter]

so if you don't believe in evolution, you must believe a fully formed human just ''appeared'' like a Star Trek energizer !!!!!!!!!! hahahahahhahahahah
and people doubt EVOLUTION ???!!!!!!!!
they think is evolution unbelievable???--but think ''energizing'' humans IS believable??!!
hahahahhahahahhaah

what they claim is an ape gave birth to a human

 

[rightwinger]

Evolution is a Fact

God is a Theory

Then why do they call it Theory of Evolution?

The concept that evolution occurs is undeniable and an established fact

Simple creatures existed before complex creatures. That is a fact

How and why evolution occurs is still a theory

God is, at best, a theory
Most likely a fable

When you say "complex creatures," are you referring to birds from dinosaurs and humans from monkeys? These are the only two examples of macroevolution. Or are you referring to the dogs from canids, cats from pseudaelurus and natural selection? None of former has been observed nor have had success via experiment.

OTOH, we have today's population size of 6.5 billion fits reproduction from 8 human beings Noah and his family after around 4,500 years. We have the universe in a flat shape and expanding without no letup in sight as stated in the Bible or from God's word. We have marine fossils on the top of Mt. Everest which fits the evidence of a global flood.

I’m talking about the evolution of simple creatures
Single cell, to mollusks, to crustacean, to fish, reptiles, birds, mammals

And much, much, much, much later .... man

 

[james bond]

Evolution is a Fact

God is a Theory

Then why do they call it Theory of Evolution?

The concept that evolution occurs is undeniable and an established fact

Simple creatures existed before complex creatures. That is a fact

How and why evolution occurs is still a theory

God is, at best, a theory
Most likely a fable

When you say "complex creatures," are you referring to birds from dinosaurs and humans from monkeys? These are the only two examples of macroevolution. Or are you referring to the dogs from canids, cats from pseudaelurus and natural selection? None of former has been observed nor have had success via experiment.

OTOH, we have today's population size of 6.5 billion fits reproduction from 8 human beings Noah and his family after around 4,500 years. We have the universe in a flat shape and expanding without no letup in sight as stated in the Bible or from God's word. We have marine fossils on the top of Mt. Everest which fits the evidence of a global flood.

I’m talking about the evolution of simple creatures
Single cell, to mollusks, to crustacean, to fish, reptiles, birds, mammals

And much, much, much, much later .... man

The only fact that I know of is that these creatures exist. However, the single cell, to mollusks, to crustacean, to fish, reptiles, birds, mammals are all theories because ToE cannot explain nor show how it happened as "descent with modification." This is the part of the basic definition of evolution.

We can see leaves grow and fall from a tree, but we do not see a mountain erode after millions of years. We see how genes play a part in inheritance over generations and how animals produce diversity, but we do not see the so called "descent with modification" over long-time. Long-time is another requirement because then no one can see how it happened or whether it happened, but because of it and descent with modification can be explained that it happened this way. This is what you are saying and believe. It's not fact, only a theory.

An introduction to evolution

 

[Astrostar]

Dubitable Darwin? Why Some Smart, Nonreligious People Doubt the Theory of Evolution

https://www.theguardian.com/science/political-science/2017/sep/05/questioning-evolution-is-neither-science-denial-nor-the-preserve-of-creationists

The Problem With Evolution: Where Have We Gone Wrong?

Doubts about evolution widespread even amongst non-religious people

The doubts are growing even among the non-religious. I am not a Creationist or subscriber to Intelligent Design, but , after reviewing the available evidence, I have doubts of my own.

No, ignorance of evolution is widespread among conservatives.

And it has to be; they have no choice. They are fundamental Christians and they either believe strictly in the bible or they don't. Just like Trump, they have to believe in creationism and a strict view of the bible.

 

[Hollie]

Evolution is a Fact

God is a Theory

Then why do they call it Theory of Evolution?

The concept that evolution occurs is undeniable and an established fact

Simple creatures existed before complex creatures. That is a fact

How and why evolution occurs is still a theory

God is, at best, a theory
Most likely a fable

When you say "complex creatures," are you referring to birds from dinosaurs and humans from monkeys? These are the only two examples of macroevolution. Or are you referring to the dogs from canids, cats from pseudaelurus and natural selection? None of former has been observed nor have had success via experiment.

OTOH, we have today's population size of 6.5 billion fits reproduction from 8 human beings Noah and his family after around 4,500 years. We have the universe in a flat shape and expanding without no letup in sight as stated in the Bible or from God's word. We have marine fossils on the top of Mt. Everest which fits the evidence of a global flood.

I’m talking about the evolution of simple creatures
Single cell, to mollusks, to crustacean, to fish, reptiles, birds, mammals

And much, much, much, much later .... man

The only fact that I know of is that these creatures exist. However, the single cell, to mollusks, to crustacean, to fish, reptiles, birds, mammals are all theories because ToE cannot explain nor show how it happened as "descent with modification." This is the part of the basic definition of evolution.

We can see leaves grow and fall from a tree, but we do not see a mountain erode after millions of years. We see how genes play a part in inheritance over generations and how animals produce diversity, but we do not see the so called "descent with modification" over long-time. Long-time is another requirement because then no one can see how it happened or whether it happened, but because of it and descent with modification can be explained that it happened this way. This is what you are saying and believe. It's not fact, only a theory.

An introduction to evolution

Speciation is the term you’re befuddled with. And yes, speciation is a part of the evolutionary record.

 

[Hollie]

Dubitable Darwin? Why Some Smart, Nonreligious People Doubt the Theory of Evolution

https://www.theguardian.com/science/political-science/2017/sep/05/questioning-evolution-is-neither-science-denial-nor-the-preserve-of-creationists

The Problem With Evolution: Where Have We Gone Wrong?

Doubts about evolution widespread even amongst non-religious people

The doubts are growing even among the non-religious. I am not a Creationist or subscriber to Intelligent Design, but , after reviewing the available evidence, I have doubts of my own.

not sure if youve seen this, but this is a good series that details not just the flaws but the outright lies taught by evolution,,,

be forewarned he is a baptist and gets the holyer than thow attitude, just skip over those,,,he also provides all the footnotes to back it up


The Creation Seminar (Kent Hovind) - YouTube

Encyclopedia of American Loons: Search results for Kent hovind