DoorDash Customer Does NOT Leave a Tip and Had Coffee THROWN on the Ground

[ThisIsMe]

I don't get why you agree on a price for an item and then have to tip on top of that. I don't tip. If you aren't getting enough in wages get another job that pays better.

Having said that I know it's a yank thing. Some in Oz do it to show off or because they're following US trendies but nah; not here as a rule.

Do they tip the check-out operators at Walmarts and such?

Greg

Do they tip the check-out operators at Walmarts and such?

I haven’t seen that, but I was in a hotel the other day where there were signs sitting around the hotel with a QR code on it that you could scan if you wanted to leave a tip for the hotel staff.

Now in a lot of fast food restaurants they have the ability to tip while paying for your meal.

Now, i dont mind tipping, i tip all the time, even at the fast food restaurants, but there used to be a time when you tipped for good service, like at a sit down restaurant.

 

[Moonglow]

I don't do anything but Wal Mart delivery in which tipping is not allowed.

 

[Burgermeister]

I tapped at 2 mins. Not gonna listen to this guy repeat his opinion over and over for 15 mins. I get the gist though, and I agree. If you can't afford to tip, don't use the service. Also, if you throw coffee on a customer, you should get fired immediately.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Actually sometimes some of these apps pool tips or steal them

Point is sometimes the driver sees an order that is perhaps paying higher and must include a tip in his/her mind ….but after the order is delivered, there is no tip and simply what happened is the company took tip money from a high tipper and added it onto the base pay of the order. Again, though some of these gig companies have been proven to have stolen tips from drivers to simply add to their own profits. That’s how awful they are.

My son has done Doordash for extra cash. Nothing you've claimed here has happened to him.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

My son has done Doordash for extra cash. Nothing you've claimed here has happened to him.

That’s your son….. there’s millions of people on these platforms..Your post does not negate the fact that some of these gig companies have pooled tips or stolen them.

And that a number of drivers have been deactivated due to false complaints by customers.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

My son has done Doordash for extra cash. Nothing you've claimed here has happened to him.

Instacart Is Revising Its Outrageous Tipping Policy, Following Public Outcry

The grocery delivery app was using tips to subsidize delivery payments

www.eater.com

DoorDash promises to change controversial tipping policy after public outcry

CEO Tony Xu promises changes, but details aren’t yet clear

www.theverge.com

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

That’s your son….. there’s millions of people on these platforms..Your post does not negate the fact that some of these gig companies have pooled tips or stolen them.

And that a number of drivers have been deactivated due to false complaints by customers.

I'm aware of the false complaint issues. Regarding tips, if you take an order that says you're getting paid $5, you get paid $5, and so on. It's very easy to keep track of because you can look at every single order you did and what you were paid. I have read about people doing gig jobs where the customers have changed their tips right before or after the job was completed, but that was a few years ago and the companies were cracking down on that. I've never read about a credible example of a gig company pooling or stealing tips.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

My son has done Doordash for extra cash. Nothing you've claimed here has happened to him.

I’m sure you’re a nice person but your post is unacceptable. You’re not in the industry.

I’ve done 5000 jobs with Uber… and I follow gig workers on social media. There’s been tons of examples of them taking in an order that shows up as eight or $10. Then they drop off the order and it’s all base pay and no tip. And they will do a similar order meaning similar in time where the pay is the same but the base pay is perhaps three dollars and seven more dollars of it is in tips for a total of 10$. There you go. Enough said. Don’t take this as me trying to be rude to you. I’m just trying to educate you on the situation.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I'm aware of the false complaint issues. Regarding tips, if you take an order that says you're getting paid $5, you get paid $5, and so on. It's very easy to keep track of because you can look at every single order you did and what you were paid. I have read about people doing gig jobs where the customers have changed their tips right before or after the job was completed, but that was a few years ago and the companies were cracking down on that. I've never read about a credible example of a gig company pooling or stealing tips.

Read the previous links… and you could research the issue. There’s more articles written about that issue of gig companies pooling tips or stealing them.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Instacart Is Revising Its Outrageous Tipping Policy, Following Public Outcry

The grocery delivery app was using tips to subsidize delivery payments

www.eater.com

DoorDash promises to change controversial tipping policy after public outcry

CEO Tony Xu promises changes, but details aren’t yet clear

www.theverge.com

What is being described in those articles is not tip stealing.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

What is being described in those articles is not tip stealing.

It’s tip pooling.

There are tons of articles written about either tip pooling or companies outright taking high tips from customers and taking a portion of it for themselves. With all due respect, I’m not taking any more time on this topic. You can research the issue and read tons of articles about it.

 

[Clipper]

The driver knows the tip they are getting (or not getting) when they accept the order. This driver should have his account suspended.

No, they don't. Drivers don't know the tip until after the delivery is completed.

 

[Burgermeister]

I’m sure you’re a nice person but your post is unacceptable. You’re not in the industry.

I’ve done 5000 jobs with Uber… and I follow gig workers on social media. There’s been tons of examples of them taking in an order that shows up as eight or $10. Then they drop off the order and it’s all base pay and no tip. And they will do a similar order meeting similar in time where the pay is the same but the base pay is perhaps three dollars and seven dollars of it is in tips. There you go. Enough said. Don’t take this trying to be rude to you. I’m just trying to educate you on the situation.

He relayed first-hand information. He didn't extrapolate that information into a general conclusion. You, on the other hand, are using anecdotal information from social media to assert a conclusion. You aren't even using your own experiences. Check yourself, and who the fuck are you to tell anyone their post is unacceptable?

 

[Clipper]

It’s tip pooling.

There are tons of articles written about either tip pooling or companies outright taking high tips from customers and taking a portion of it for themselves. With all due respect, I’m not taking any more time on this topic. You can research the issue and read tons of articles about it.

If you look at your son's order history you will see that most of his earnings come from tips, not what the platform pays to deliver an order. And none of them pay a penny for fuel costs. Uber did at one time, but no longer.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

No, they don't. Drivers don't know the tip until after the delivery is completed.

I know for a fact that isn't true because my son showed me how it works. He'd wait at home until he got his first request and it said right on the screen what he would be paid. He had the option to accept or reject and wait for another one.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

He relayed first-hand information. He didn't extrapolate that information into a general conclusion. You, on the other hand, are using anecdotal information from social media to assert a conclusion. You aren't even using your own experiences. Check yourself, and who the fuck are you to tell anyone their post is unacceptable?

Because I’ve done 5000 jobs with Uber and I know plenty of folks in the industry. It’s a brutal industry…. the workers are treated like trash.

It’s upsetting to see somebody who is not in the industry make a non-informed post about it. Let their free speech prevail. I’m not some radical lefty that believes in canceling free speech let them say whatever they want. But the truth will prevail.

There is no anecdotal information going on here. Articles and links were provided. It is a fact that gig companies having engaged in tip pooling or outright stealing tips.

Gig economy tech companies like Instacart have been accused of tip theft. But the problem is bigger than that.

Workers are demanding a fair wage, not just fair tips.

www.vox.com

For people who are not in the service industry or the gig economy. They should understand that these topics can make the blood boil of folks have worked in the industry who have seen their pay go down drastically. Who have no benefits whatsoever. Who are treated like shit by customers. Who are fired for no good reason.

DoorDash Driver Confronts Customer He Blames for Firing: 'Who Does This?'

"This is my only source of income, I do this all day," said the DoorDash driver. "Now I'm fired from my job because you want your $10 burrito?"

www.newsweek.com

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I know for a fact that isn't true because my son showed me how it works. He'd wait at home until he got his first request and it said right on the screen what he would be paid. He had the option to accept or reject and wait for another one.

It shows what he is being paid, but it does not show what the tip amount is. That is the point.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

It shows what he is being paid, but it does not show what the tip amount is. That is the point.

Yes, it does. It will say if the tip is included or not. I've also ordered with Door Dash and it asks you to enter a tip at the time of ordering.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Sometimes a driver will receive more than what the original offer was. But that is rare for the driver to drop off an order that said it will ie pay 6$ and then all after completing the order it changes to $10.

This is not due to the customer changing their tip amount within minutes or seconds. But this happens sometimes as a method of DoorDash preventing drivers from cherry picking. Meaning DoorDash is employing methods where their drivers will be inclined to accept a low paying order in the hope that after completing it, they get paid more money again it’s very rare for them to get paid more money after completing the order.


This is just one of a multitude of issues when it comes to gig companies.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Yes, it does. It will say if the tip is included or not. I've also ordered with Door Dash and it asks you to enter a tip at the time of ordering.

That is not the full picture. I’ve seen these orders. It will say this is the pay including tip and delivery time and everything, but even though it is saying that it doesn’t mean the order includes an actual tip.

Again this is one of many issues surrounding the gig companies. You can’t choose one issue. There are so many of them that we can all see that gig companies treat their workers like trash.