Don't tase me bro!

[DiveCon]

and a side note, why is it that when people have been shown they are completely wrong, they start calling someone that is NOT female, she?


sort of latent hostility towards women?

 

[Sweet Willy]

and a side note, why is it that when people have been shown they are completely wrong, they start calling someone that is NOT female, she?


sort of latent hostility towards women?

Sorry. I thought you were a girl.

 

[Sweet Willy]

Take the good advice and stay down.

and you should take some advice and shut the fuck up

Let's recap, again, for Divecon. She is a little slow.


This event began in a private parking lot.

Do you have any evidence that any relevant events occured anyplace else?

Taser for pastor, pepper spray for congregation | Breaking News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle



Texas law clearly seperates Texas Traffic code from traffic on private property.

Do you have any relevant cite that disputes the right of Texas property owners to control traffic and enforcement of traffic code on their own property?

Texas Transportation Code - Section 542.005. Rules On Private Property - Texas Attorney Resources - Texas Laws


The Pastor informed them they were on private property and asked them to leave, as confirmed by the officer on the scene.

Do you have any relevant information that the police were not on private property or were not asked to leave?

Taser for pastor, pepper spray for congregation | Breaking News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle


The officers then ordered Moran to leave. When he refused, he was told he was under arrest for not complying with that order.

Do you have any relevant information, any reason to believe this was a lawful order? Please cite the law that allows Police to order people off of their own property.

When Moran refused an order to leave, the officer told him that he was under arrest. Moran pushed the officer as he tried to handcuff him, Smiley said, and fled inside the church.

Taser for pastor, pepper spray for congregation | Breaking News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle


And finally, Moran has the right to resist the unlawful arrest. He especially has the right to break away from the police and run.

Do you have any information or rule of law that would prohibit Moran from exercising his right to resist?

“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest






Any other questions?

This is the topic, in full, with all cites and information gathered.

Please feel free to form your own position and articulate it.

 

[DiveCon]

and you should take some advice and shut the fuck up

Let's recap, again, for Divecon. She is a little slow.


This event began in a private parking lot.

Do you have any evidence that any relevant events occured anyplace else?

Taser for pastor, pepper spray for congregation | Breaking News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle



Texas law clearly seperates Texas Traffic code from traffic on private property.

Do you have any relevant cite that disputes the right of Texas property owners to control traffic and enforcement of traffic code on their own property?

Texas Transportation Code - Section 542.005. Rules On Private Property - Texas Attorney Resources - Texas Laws


The Pastor informed them they were on private property and asked them to leave, as confirmed by the officer on the scene.

Do you have any relevant information that the police were not on private property or were not asked to leave?

Taser for pastor, pepper spray for congregation | Breaking News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle


The officers then ordered Moran to leave. When he refused, he was told he was under arrest for not complying with that order.

Do you have any relevant information, any reason to believe this was a lawful order? Please cite the law that allows Police to order people off of their own property.

Taser for pastor, pepper spray for congregation | Breaking News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle


And finally, Moran has the right to resist the unlawful arrest. He especially has the right to break away from the police and run.

Do you have any information or rule of law that would prohibit Moran from exercising his right to resist?

“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest






Any other questions?

This is the topic, in full, with all cites and information gathered.

Please feel free to form your own position and articulate it.

again, no one but YOU brought up uinlawful arrest
it is a strawman

you FAIL

 

[Sweet Willy]

Let's recap, again, for Divecon. She is a little slow.


This event began in a private parking lot.

Do you have any evidence that any relevant events occured anyplace else?

Taser for pastor, pepper spray for congregation | Breaking News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle



Texas law clearly seperates Texas Traffic code from traffic on private property.

Do you have any relevant cite that disputes the right of Texas property owners to control traffic and enforcement of traffic code on their own property?

Texas Transportation Code - Section 542.005. Rules On Private Property - Texas Attorney Resources - Texas Laws


The Pastor informed them they were on private property and asked them to leave, as confirmed by the officer on the scene.

Do you have any relevant information that the police were not on private property or were not asked to leave?

Taser for pastor, pepper spray for congregation | Breaking News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle


The officers then ordered Moran to leave. When he refused, he was told he was under arrest for not complying with that order.

Do you have any relevant information, any reason to believe this was a lawful order? Please cite the law that allows Police to order people off of their own property.

Taser for pastor, pepper spray for congregation | Breaking News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle


And finally, Moran has the right to resist the unlawful arrest. He especially has the right to break away from the police and run.

Do you have any information or rule of law that would prohibit Moran from exercising his right to resist?

Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest






Any other questions?

This is the topic, in full, with all cites and information gathered.

Please feel free to form your own position and articulate it.

again, no one but YOU brought up uinlawful arrest
it is a strawman

you FAIL

It is the law.

Do you dispute the right to resisit unlawful arrest?

Do you claim this is a lawful arrest?

If so, describe for us the law that makes the arrest lawful.

 

[jgbkab]

Oh my! A grand slam in the bottom of the 9th...it's all over folks.

 

[DiveCon]

Oh my! A grand slam in the bottom of the 9th...it's all over folks.

figures that you two fucking morons would agree

 

[DiveCon]

This is the topic, in full, with all cites and information gathered.

Please feel free to form your own position and articulate it.

again, no one but YOU brought up uinlawful arrest
it is a strawman

you FAIL

It is the law.

Do you dispute the right to resisit unlawful arrest?

Do you claim this is a lawful arrest?

If so, describe for us the law that makes the arrest lawful.

again, you raised the strawman
not me

 

[jgbkab]

Oh my! A grand slam in the bottom of the 9th...it's all over folks.

figures that you two fucking morons would agree

And you're figuring this out by the 29th page? Bwahahahaha! Dude, I told you that you had a problem with critical thinking and reasoning.

 

[Modbert]

 

[Sweet Willy]

again, no one but YOU brought up uinlawful arrest
it is a strawman

you FAIL

It is the law.

Do you dispute the right to resisit unlawful arrest?

Do you claim this is a lawful arrest?

If so, describe for us the law that makes the arrest lawful.

again, you raised the strawman
not me

There is no strawman.

This is a discussion about the events involving the tasering and arrest of a Pastor.

Do you believe it was a lawful arrest?

If so, cite the law and support your claim.

 

[DiveCon]

Oh my! A grand slam in the bottom of the 9th...it's all over folks.

figures that you two fucking morons would agree

And you're figuring this out by the 29th page? Bwahahahaha! Dude, I told you that you had a problem with critical thinking and reasoning.

nope, you are projecting again

 

[Sweet Willy]

Divecon is the reason many message boards instruct their mods to remove trolls.

No evidence. No Support. Not even a clear position. Just a bunch of playground tactics and name calling. Makes the forum look unattractive to even moderately intelligent people.

 

[jgbkab]

Yeah, and he says I'm projecting...and he's just realized that we have the same opinion about this thread...after we tag-teamed him and KootchieKutter earlier in the thread...heeelarious!

 

[DiveCon]

Divecon is the reason many message boards instruct their mods to remove trolls.

No evidence. No Support. Not even a clear position. Just a bunch of playground tactics and name calling. Makes the forum look unattractive to even moderately intelligent people.

then you and he would be removed
asshole

 

[DiveCon]

Yeah, and he says I'm projecting...and he's just realized that we have the same opinion about this thread...after we tag-teamed him and KootchieKutter earlier in the thread...heeelarious!

you are just another fucking moron on the internet

 

[Sweet Willy]

Yeah, and he says I'm projecting...and he's just realized that we have the same opinion about this thread...after we tag-teamed him and KootchieKutter earlier in the thread...heeelarious!

There is nothing left for DIvecon to do except two things:

1) Hang around like the beaten, pathetic kid on the playground and try to take the ball after all the other kids are tired of playing OR

2) Not interested in the sunject, the facts, the law at all, just hang around and troll for fights, just for the sake of fighting. No point what so ever. A troll.

 

[jgbkab]

Five seconds on the clock...Grant inbounds to Jordan...he shoots a 20 footer at the buzzer....SCORES! BULLS WIN! BULL WIN!

 

[jgbkab]

Seriously, Divecon...you win some and you lose some. You lost this one. You have no leg to stand on because all of your arguments have been refuted. You continue to go around in circles to try to confuse but you keep getting the same smack down no matter how you spin it. The cops were wrong from the information given. The Rev had the completely lawful right to resist. Until additional information is given rescinding what we now know, there is no reason for you to continue on this path. You're not even presenting any facts and now you are resorting to name calling. You're going on what ifs and not facts. The horse is not going to miraculously wake up.

 

[DiveCon]

Seriously, Divecon...you win some and you lose some. You lost this one. You have no leg to stand on because all of your arguments have been refuted. You continue to go around in circles to try to confuse but you keep getting the same smack down no matter how you spin it. The cops were wrong from the information given. The Rev had the completely lawful right to resist. Until additional information is given rescinding what we now know, there is no reason for you to continue on this path. You're not even presenting any facts and now you are resorting to name calling. You're going on what ifs and not facts. The horse is not going to miraculously wake up.

you are projecting once again