DONE - GOING TO JAIL! -- Official: Some Clinton emails 'too damaging' to release'

[JoeB131]

Do you know how the Sec State is instructed to communicate classified information? I do not believe, for instance, that said training included the words, "Keep copies of it on your private server".

You work on the assumption that important people like the Secretary of State are undergoing "Training" like you did at your first week at the Steak And Shake.

The reality is, Hillary used a private server, just like Colin Powell did when he was failing to convince Bush we didn't need to invade Iraq. Except Hillary turned over all her e-mails. Colin Powell, not so much.

 

[ChrisL]

BEENNGGAAZZIIIIIII!!!!

Benghazi brought you rinse, flush and repeat.

Rinse because by rinsing you might find something.

Flush because you flush after finding nothing.

Repeat...Repeat.....Repeat.....Repeat.

Remember Folks, When Desperate Times Calls For Desperate Measures Nothing Says Desperation Like Rinse, Flush and Repeat.

Find something? People were tortured and murdered, and you are making jokes? Bad taste dude. Really tasteless.

 

[ChrisL]

BEENNGGAAZZIIIIIII!!!!

Yup, this is the mind set of a lot of posters on this forum. ^^^^ the usual intelligent dialogue.

 

[hadit]

Do you know how the Sec State is instructed to communicate classified information? I do not believe, for instance, that said training included the words, "Keep copies of it on your private server".

You work on the assumption that important people like the Secretary of State are undergoing "Training" like you did at your first week at the Steak And Shake.

The reality is, Hillary used a private server, just like Colin Powell did when he was failing to convince Bush we didn't need to invade Iraq. Except Hillary turned over all her e-mails. Colin Powell, not so much.

1. Yes, the Sec State does receive training on protocols for handling classified information. If you think he/she does not, your stupid is backing up into your brain.
2. When Colin Powell was in office, the State Department had an antiquated system that he tried to update. That included the use of email.
3. Colin Powell ensured all of his emails were routed through the government system, thus ensuring they were captured and retained.
4. The State Department's policy on email usage dates back to the year he LEFT. Thus, there wasn't one in place while he was there.

Do you really want to compare apples to jaguars?

Oh, and LOL at you for believing that Hillary turned over all her emails. You probably also believed her when she said she never had any classified information on her server.

 

[paperview]

So no charges yet?

<yawn> Oh well.

In the meantime, fascinating piece of scholarly work published by the University of Penn. Law Review that speaks to the (quite unbelievably) over aggressive reclassification that has been going on for quite some time now...

http://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=9475&context=penn_law_review


"Now you see it. Now you don’t.
This is not a magician’s incantation. It is a description of retroactive classification, a little-known provision of U.S. national security law that allows the government to declassify a document, release it to the public, and then declare it classified later on.

Retroactive classification means the government could hand you a document today and prosecute you tomorrow for not giving it back.
Retroactive classification can even reach documents that are available in public libraries, on the Internet, or elsewhere in the public domain.

The executive branch has used retroactive classification to startling effect. The Department of Justice, for example, declassified and released a report on National Security Agency (NSA) wiretapping only to declare, years later, that the report was once again classified.

The journalist who had received the report was threatened with prosecution if he did not return it. Retroactive classification has also targeted government documents revealing corruption in Iraq, violence in Afghanistan, and mismanagement of the national missile defense program. In each of these cases, the government released a document in an unclassified form through official channels—not through a leak—and then turned around to classify it.

This practice would be troubling enough if it actually removed the document from the public domain. But in the Internet Age, once a document is released to the public, it is often impossible for the government to retrieve it.

While retroactive classification does not remove the document from the public domain, where our enemies can access it, retroactive classification does remove the document from the public discourse, prohibiting members of Congress, government auditors, and law-abiding members of the public from openly discussing it."


Retroactively Classified Documents, the First Amendment, and the Power to Make Secrets Out of the Public Record

 

[paperview]

And another piece, from 2006 --

Classifying Toothpaste

Monday, February 27, 2006
"A 1950 INTELLIGENCE estimate, written days before Chinese forces crossed into North Korea....
<snip>...A 1962 telegram from Ambassador to Yugoslavia George F. Kennan featuring a translated newspaper article on China's nuclear weapons program.


Some of these documents are innocuous, some embarrassing, at least to the agencies involved. All were once freely available but -- in a fit of bureaucratic overzealousness -- have since been reclassified under a secret government program to disappear historical documents from public view.

In all, according to a new report by the National Security Archive at George Washington University, 9,500 documents totaling 55,500 pages, some dating as far back as World War II, have been reclassified and withdrawn from public circulation. The study's author, Matthew M. Aid, found that eight of the reclassified documents had actually been published as part of the State Department's official history series or made available on the CIA's own database.

This effort to stuff this harmless toothpaste back into the tube would be funny if it weren't so emblematic of a disturbing new culture of government secrecy."

Classifying Toothpaste

 

[Redfish]

The OP is a rightwing hack who gets information from deeply partisan sources.

The only federal agent making a stink about this is deeply partisan Republican.

Yawn.

Every Clinton investigation over the last 25 years have been lead by the Reich wing. Let's face it the FBI loves to do investigations on Presidents and candidates, just give them an opportunity and they'll beat it to death.

Clinton did not send or receive documents marked as classified. They were marked "confidential" or "classified" by inter- agencies after the fact. Investigation over. There will be no charges.

State Department spokesman John Kirby said the documents, totaling 37 pages, were not marked classified at the time they were sent, but are being upgraded at the request of the Intelligence Community because they contain sensitive information

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State Department will not release 22 'top secret' Clinton emails - CNNPolitics.com

data is not classified because it is marked, it is classified because of what it contains. the "unmarked" excuse is bullshit. Anyone who has ever held a security clearance knows that.

Now, if you are saying that Hillary was too stupid to know what data was top secret or SAP, then you may have a point. But why would you want someone that stupid to be president?

 

[Uncensored2008]

And another piece, from 2006 --

Classifying Toothpaste

Monday, February 27, 2006
"A 1950 INTELLIGENCE estimate, written days before Chinese forces crossed into North Korea....
<snip>...A 1962 telegram from Ambassador to Yugoslavia George F. Kennan featuring a translated newspaper article on China's nuclear weapons program.


Some of these documents are innocuous, some embarrassing, at least to the agencies involved. All were once freely available but -- in a fit of bureaucratic overzealousness -- have since been reclassified under a secret government program to disappear historical documents from public view.

In all, according to a new report by the National Security Archive at George Washington University, 9,500 documents totaling 55,500 pages, some dating as far back as World War II, have been reclassified and withdrawn from public circulation. The study's author, Matthew M. Aid, found that eight of the reclassified documents had actually been published as part of the State Department's official history series or made available on the CIA's own database.

This effort to stuff this harmless toothpaste back into the tube would be funny if it weren't so emblematic of a disturbing new culture of government secrecy."

Classifying Toothpaste

Here's the thing Comrade:

The Obama administration is the most corrupt administration in history, by a huge margin. Grant ran an honest game in comparison. Al Capone and his gang were far more law abiding than the Holder run Mafia of the DOJ. Lynch is no more honest, just a gangster using the full weight of the federal government to harass and haze those on the Obama enemies list.

This gang of crooks would not indict Hillary if she cut the head off of a black, transgender child on National TV while undergoing the holy rite of abortion. Lynch is corrupt to the bone, she will NEVER indict a party member of prominence under any circumstance.

So all of your screaming to try and parse the crimes of the crook Hilliary are meaningless. What her treason means is that she will not be president - period. All of your little Soros hate drones can stomp your feet and wail all you like. She is damaged beyond recovery, even democrats don't trust the Krooked Klinton Kunt, nor should they. She is a career criminal who has been held above the laws that govern commoners and Republicans. She won't face justice, your criminal party will make sure of that. But there is nothing you can do to unring the bell. America knows what the Hilliary is.

At this point, I doubt she will even by the party nominee.

 

[Uncensored2008]

data is not classified because it is marked, it is classified because of what it contains. the "unmarked" excuse is bullshit. Anyone who has ever held a security clearance knows that.

Now, if you are saying that Hillary was too stupid to know what data was top secret or SAP, then you may have a point. But why would you want someone that stupid to be president?

What he is saying is the Hillary is a party member and thus not subject to the law.

 

[Redfish]

data is not classified because it is marked, it is classified because of what it contains. the "unmarked" excuse is bullshit. Anyone who has ever held a security clearance knows that.

Now, if you are saying that Hillary was too stupid to know what data was top secret or SAP, then you may have a point. But why would you want someone that stupid to be president?

What he is saying is the Hillary is a party member and thus not subject to the law.

yes, I know. Dems and libs are not subject to the laws of the USA.

 

[bravoactual]

Do you know how the Sec State is instructed to communicate classified information? I do not believe, for instance, that said training included the words, "Keep copies of it on your private server".

You work on the assumption that important people like the Secretary of State are undergoing "Training" like you did at your first week at the Steak And Shake.

The reality is, Hillary used a private server, just like Colin Powell did when he was failing to convince Bush we didn't need to invade Iraq. Except Hillary turned over all her e-mails. Colin Powell, not so much.

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From the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/u...kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?_r=0.

The RWNJ silence on this is deafening.

Hillary Clinton's emails (classified after the fact) leads to dogs and cats living together, no Ketchup for French Fries and the reemergence of the New Coke.

What a difference a Political Party makes.

 

[bravoactual]

BEENNGGAAZZIIIIIII!!!!

Benghazi brought you rinse, flush and repeat.

Rinse because by rinsing you might find something.

Flush because you flush after finding nothing.

Repeat...Repeat.....Repeat.....Repeat.

Remember Folks, When Desperate Times Calls For Desperate Measures Nothing Says Desperation Like Rinse, Flush and Repeat.

Find something? People were tortured and murdered, and you are making jokes? Bad taste dude. Really tasteless.

As opposed to the thousands of Afghani's and Iraqi's that died in two Immoral, Illegal and Unconstitutional Wars?

As opposed to all the Unborn of Afghanistan and Iraq who did not and do not have the same so-called "Right To Life" that RWNJ rant on about?

BEENNGGHAAZZIIIIIIII means nothing to the Republicans.

My post stands.

 

[Redfish]

BEENNGGAAZZIIIIIII!!!!

Benghazi brought you rinse, flush and repeat.

Rinse because by rinsing you might find something.

Flush because you flush after finding nothing.

Repeat...Repeat.....Repeat.....Repeat.

Remember Folks, When Desperate Times Calls For Desperate Measures Nothing Says Desperation Like Rinse, Flush and Repeat.

Find something? People were tortured and murdered, and you are making jokes? Bad taste dude. Really tasteless.

As opposed to the thousands of Afghani's and Iraqi's that died in two Immoral, Illegal and Unconstitutional Wars?

As opposed to all the Unborn of Afghanistan and Iraq who did not and do not have the same so-called "Right To Life" that RWNJ rant on about?

BEENNGGHAAZZIIIIIIII means nothing to the Republicans.

My post stands.

Hillary voted to authorize and fund those "immoral, illegal and unconstitutional" wars. So did many other democrats.

She also is directly and personally responsible for the 4 American deaths at Benghazi. She and obozo refused to help those people because they feared that acknowledging a terrorist attack would hurt his reelection chances. they let 4 americans die for their personal political gain, and then lied about it.

HRC is lower than pond scum and should be in jail.

 

[ChrisL]

BEENNGGAAZZIIIIIII!!!!

Benghazi brought you rinse, flush and repeat.

Rinse because by rinsing you might find something.

Flush because you flush after finding nothing.

Repeat...Repeat.....Repeat.....Repeat.

Remember Folks, When Desperate Times Calls For Desperate Measures Nothing Says Desperation Like Rinse, Flush and Repeat.

Find something? People were tortured and murdered, and you are making jokes? Bad taste dude. Really tasteless.

As opposed to the thousands of Afghani's and Iraqi's that died in two Immoral, Illegal and Unconstitutional Wars?

As opposed to all the Unborn of Afghanistan and Iraq who did not and do not have the same so-called "Right To Life" that RWNJ rant on about?

BEENNGGHAAZZIIIIIIII means nothing to the Republicans.

My post stands.

You talk about "republicans" as if they are all one group and not individuals? So you must be a democrat? Lol.

 

[Faun]

BEENNGGAAZZIIIIIII!!!!

Benghazi brought you rinse, flush and repeat.

Rinse because by rinsing you might find something.

Flush because you flush after finding nothing.

Repeat...Repeat.....Repeat.....Repeat.

Remember Folks, When Desperate Times Calls For Desperate Measures Nothing Says Desperation Like Rinse, Flush and Repeat.

Find something? People were tortured and murdered, and you are making jokes? Bad taste dude. Really tasteless.

As opposed to the thousands of Afghani's and Iraqi's that died in two Immoral, Illegal and Unconstitutional Wars?

As opposed to all the Unborn of Afghanistan and Iraq who did not and do not have the same so-called "Right To Life" that RWNJ rant on about?

BEENNGGHAAZZIIIIIIII means nothing to the Republicans.

My post stands.

Hillary voted to authorize and fund those "immoral, illegal and unconstitutional" wars. So did many other democrats.

She also is directly and personally responsible for the 4 American deaths at Benghazi. She and obozo refused to help those people because they feared that acknowledging a terrorist attack would hurt his reelection chances. they let 4 americans die for their personal political gain, and then lied about it.

HRC is lower than pond scum and should be in jail.

She voted to authorize war if Iraq was a threat to us.

What was the threat?

 

[Siete]

the FBI had Hilary dead to rights last night, all they had to do was walk up on stage, arrest her and haul her to jail.


but a week later the question remains ...

has Hillary gone to jail yet ?

 

[easyt65]

the FBI had Hilary dead to rights last night, all they had to do was walk up on stage, arrest her and haul her to jail.


but a week later the question remains ...

has Hillary gone to jail yet ?

Siete, thank you for continuing to demonstrate you are too ignorant to understand the term 'on-going investigation'. Speaking of which, how are those classes to get your GED going?

 

[paperview]

I'm going to enjoy bumping this thread months from now...

 

[paperview]

Or maybe I should say burping, with all the connie crybabies who will still be bawling their eyes out --

But Clinton, she's guilty I tell ya!!

Guilty!


!!


Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Siete]

the FBI had Hilary dead to rights last night, all they had to do was walk up on stage, arrest her and haul her to jail.


but a week later the question remains ...

has Hillary gone to jail yet ?

Siete, thank you for continuing to demonstrate you are too ignorant to understand the term 'on-going investigation'. Speaking of which, how are those classes to get your GED going?

better put on your big boy pants and lose the dress .... my Clinton/jail query has just begun ... which reminds me ... has Lois been arrested yet ?