Donald Trump Calls For 'Complete Shutdown' Of Muslim Immigration To U.S.

[ChrisL]

I can understand why rounding up immigrants who are now citizens would be illegal and unconstitutional. We cannot do that. Once they are granted citizenship, they are recognized as citizens, but I don't know where it says in our Constitution that we must allow immigrants into the country . . . .

I've read that the states cannot discriminate against those immigrants, but I don't think the Federal government HAS to take on any immigrants.

Well either they have papers or they don't. If they don't bye. Tell me how that's wrong?

I said "citizens." Obviously that doesn't include illegals. Illegals are not citizens.

 

[protectionist]

I'm sorry, but I feel no obligation to take in people from other countries. In fact, I feel that it is to our detriment. At one time, we needed to populate our country and we needed workers to help build our infrastructure, etc. We don't NEED immigrants anymore. They are more trouble than help in a lot of cases.

Harms of Immigration

1. Americans lose jobs. (especially Whites due to affirmative action).

2. Wage reduction.

3. Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).

4. Remittance $$$ lost. ($123 Billion year).

5. Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.

6. Increased crime.

7. Increased traffic congestion.

8. Increased pollution.

9. Overcrowding in hospital ERs.

10. Overcrowding in recreational facilities.

11. Overcrowding in government offices.

12. Overcrowding in schools.

13. Decrease in funds available for entitlements.

14. Cultural erosion.

15. Overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)

16. Introduction of foreign diseases.

17. Risk of terrorism

 

[ChrisL]

FDR Halted German, Japanese Naturalization After Pearl Harbor
"interfering by word or deed with the defense of the United States or political processes and public opinions thereof"
December 8, 2015
Daniel Greenfield

A little bit of American history. After Pearl Harbor, the naturalization of enemy aliens was suspended for a time.

The myth popularized by the left is that after Pearl Harbor the United States began randomly going after Japanese-Americans because of racism. The actual reality is that the United States began relocating "enemy aliens" in the West Coast, which meant Germans, Japanese and Italians who were not United States citizens. Race wasn't the issue. Fear of an invasion was.

Executive Order 9066 is what the left loves talking about. And it's bringing up 9066 in reference to Trump's comments. But far more relevant are Presidential Proclamations 2525 through 2527.

Let's start with FDR's Presidential Proclamation 2525 after Pearl Harbor. It applied to the Japanese, 2526 to the Germans, 2527 to the Italians. But otherwise they were basically the same. Trump actually referenced these on Good Morning America as the basis for his proposals.

WHEREAS it is provided by Section 21 of Title 50 of the United States Code [11 F. C. A., tit. 50, § 21] as follows: "Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies..."

FDR was quoting the law circa 1798. Specifically, "An Act Respecting Alien Enemies". The more relevant one at present is the Alien Friends Act. But since FDR was dealing with a straightforward declared war, he went with the first of the Alien and Sedition Acts.

It's still the law today.

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FDR Halted German, Japanese Naturalization After Pearl Harbor

Hmm. Very interesting.

 

[ChrisL]

I keep wondering why the liberals are so adamant about us accepting immigrants from the middle east? Why?

 

[ChrisL]

I just keep going over it in my mind. Accepting them doesn't help us. Not accepting them doesn't hurt us. Why are they so darn insistent about us taking in immigrants that we really cannot afford?

 

[Desperado]

Talk about missing the point! Yes Trump said that Muslims should be denied entrance into the United States;
But that he said next was more important and that was "until our representative an figure out what is going on"
That was the Important statement which is being overlooked. Basically Trump said that our government representative
need to get their shit together and who can argue with that!

 

[leftwinger]

Trump knows how to please the uneducated on the Right.

STFU Chauncey. Your kind is $20T Debt. We had enough. We don't want our homes and IRA to collapse again playing with leftist policies. enough is enough. Time to fix your damage.

 

[ChrisL]

I just keep going over it in my mind. Accepting them doesn't help us. Not accepting them doesn't hurt us. Why are they so darn insistent about us taking in immigrants that we really cannot afford?

I'd really like for a liberal to tell me why please. The next lib who posts in this thread is going to get it! Lol!

 

[ChrisL]

Trump knows how to please the uneducated on the Right.

STFU Chauncey. Your kind is $20T Debt. We had enough. We don't want our homes and IRA to collapse again playing with leftist policies. enough is enough. Time to fix your damage.

Is that the terrorist in your avatar? Yuck.

 

[Vigilante]

Well we KNEW that the left's "ASSASSINS" would show up just like Muslim terrorist do!

• 'Kill Trump': Enraged left calls for assassination
  WND ^ | 8 Dec 2015 | Douglas Ernst
  Donald Trump's online critics have proposed an alternative to his anti-terrorism policies: Assassinate him instead. Secret Service agents assigned to protect Trump since Nov. 11 may be working overtime in the wake of his comments on halting Muslim immigration into the U.S. A slew of death threats against the billionaire were tweeted after a campaign stop in South Carolina on Monday.

 

[Tuatara]

It has nothing to do with religion. Islamists have a political agenda to destroy the US and other Western countries. To take them over and replace it with an Islamic Caliphate. The Alien and Sedition Acts allows us to take action against enemeies of the US.

We could care less about the false god they pray to, it's their willingness to kill Americans that does it. But progressive turds don't care, they share the common goal with Islamists to destroy White Christian America, which is why they side with barbaric Islamists that make slaves out of women and anyone that isn't Muslim.

Um, all gods are false.

 

[American_Jihad]

Well we KNEW that the left's "ASSASSINS" would show up just like Muslim terrorist do!

• 'Kill Trump': Enraged left calls for assassination
  WND ^ | 8 Dec 2015 | Douglas Ernst
  Donald Trump's online critics have proposed an alternative to his anti-terrorism policies: Assassinate him instead. Secret Service agents assigned to protect Trump since Nov. 11 may be working overtime in the wake of his comments on halting Muslim immigration into the U.S. A slew of death threats against the billionaire were tweeted after a campaign stop in South Carolina on Monday.

Wonder what they will use as a weapon, words or dress?

 

[leftwinger]

Is that the terrorist in your avatar? Yuck.

I changed it just for you. If I knew how to add cutsie lovey dovey symbols.....I might...tee hee.

 

[leftwinger]

I'd really like for a liberal to tell me why please.

I will take a flyer. They want the Votes. Even if they can't swindle them to polls right away. Muslims are reportedly voting Dem.

 

[leftwinger]

Those two bloodied muslim dogs should be impaled on spikes , publicly desecrated, and left to rot .....

Granny and the Brother? She lived there but knew nothing of course. Brother visit but know nothing.

 

[ChrisL]

Is that the terrorist in your avatar? Yuck.

I changed it just for you. If I knew how to add cutsie lovey dovey symbols.....I might...tee hee.

Lol. You didn't have to go and do that! I was just sayin' . . .

 

[ChrisL]

I'd really like for a liberal to tell me why please.

I will take a flyer. They want the Votes. Even if they can't swindle them to polls right away. Muslims are reportedly voting Dem.

Do you really think so? Muslims are very conservative and very religious, so I find it hard to believe they would align themselves with liberals. They are like night and day! Hmm.

 

[Nosmo King]

Trump cannot win the general election. His bloviating and flame throwing endears him to a vocal, undereducated and wholly xenophobic minority of right wing fear mongers.

The majority of Americans see clearly that this level of xenophobia is not in line with our national values and ethics. Voters with even a thin veneer of eriudtition regard Trump and a tragic joke loosed upon the serious process of choosing a President.

Any support for Trump and his ridiculous and inflammatory pronouncements comes from the fearful, the angry and the woefully ignorant. They claim to love America, but what about America do they know?

I don't like Trump, but I agree with him about disallowing immigrants from that part of the world. We can't tell who the "bad guys" are because they blend in, and our country's FIRST priority should be we the citizens, not some poor sops from halfway across the world. We should really have nothing to do with them. Trouble follows where ever they go, and future attacks CAN be prevented or at least limited.

We rained trouble down on the Middle East when we agreed with the Neo-Cons and invaded Iraq for no real reason. Remember Colin Powell's "Pottery Barn" riff? You break it, you bought it?

We really have nothing to do with them? We now have everything to do with them.

The refugees are a direct result of our mishandling of the Iraq debacle.

 

[Vigilante]

• TRUMP VINDICATED AGAIN – ISLAMIC IMMIGRANTS VIOLATE IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY ACT OF 1952!
  The Marshall Report ^ | Dianne Marshall
  America's Usurper, Obama has been supporting his Muslim brothers and violating The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. On the USCIS web site. In Section 212 Chapter 2, it Prohibits entry into America Aliens belonging to an organization seeking the unlawful overthrow of the federal government of the United States by force, violence and other unconstitutional means. Islamic immigration would be illegal under this law. Why? The Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam. To which are against our values and violate the Constitution as it requires them to kill the infidel, which happens to...

 

[ChrisL]

Trump cannot win the general election. His bloviating and flame throwing endears him to a vocal, undereducated and wholly xenophobic minority of right wing fear mongers.

The majority of Americans see clearly that this level of xenophobia is not in line with our national values and ethics. Voters with even a thin veneer of eriudtition regard Trump and a tragic joke loosed upon the serious process of choosing a President.

Any support for Trump and his ridiculous and inflammatory pronouncements comes from the fearful, the angry and the woefully ignorant. They claim to love America, but what about America do they know?

I don't like Trump, but I agree with him about disallowing immigrants from that part of the world. We can't tell who the "bad guys" are because they blend in, and our country's FIRST priority should be we the citizens, not some poor sops from halfway across the world. We should really have nothing to do with them. Trouble follows where ever they go, and future attacks CAN be prevented or at least limited.

We rained trouble down on the Middle East when we agreed with the Neo-Cons and invaded Iraq for no real reason. Remember Colin Powell's "Pottery Barn" riff? You break it, you bought it?

We really have nothing to do with them? We now have everything to do with them.

The refugees are a direct result of our mishandling of the Iraq debacle.

They are Syrian refugees in the midst of a civil war. Not our problem. I don't feel any obligation to them. It is in OUR best interest to avoid them at all costs actually. In fact, they have asked us to. I say we abide by their wishes.