Donald Trump and Elon Musk Are Improbable Working-Class Class Heroes

Do you not recall when he said he uses the same loopholes Hillary's big donor use? That was BEFORE he became president (oh blessed day).
Why would I believe anything that he says? He’s got to be one of the least trustworthy people out there.
 
And yet he has prosecuted no political opponent, put no political opponents in jail, had no political opponents assassinated. This all reminds me of the predictions that he was going to launch WWIII, crash the economy, cause sunspots, allow dogs and cats to live together and people to wear white after Labor Day. Of course, none of that happened, but this time, oh yes, THIS time the predictions are all going to come true, just wait and see. Tell you what, let's elect him and if he puts anyone in prison for being an opponent, I'll agree that he shouldn't have. Deal?

I'm sure all 5 of them agree. I'll have to ask at the next meeting, right before they get kicked out again, because they're Nazis and no one else wants them around.


Then you have no major candidate to vote for who has a chance of winning. Harris is FAR from a serious candidate, not even able to play T-ball when served up a floater like, "Where do you disagree with Joe Biden's policies?".


You mean some of his many companies, in none of which we would expect him to personally inspect every hire, sometimes hire illegal aliens (You really should avoid the insulting term illegals, people are not illegal).


Name a tax law he's broken. If/when you can't, you'll have to realize he's done everything legally, which means you're complaining about the law, not the people following it.

"How DARE you drive 65 on that interstate? That's too fast!! What do you mean that's the speed limit, you shouldn't drive that fast. No one should drive over 55!"


Interesting that. China sells the very item they try so hard to control and squash. Where do YOU get your Bibles from? Do you make sure they're not made in China? What about all those Amazon deliveries? Do you make sure they're not coming on a slow boat from China?


And he may very well be your president for the next 4 years while Harris gets drunk and cries that it's just not fair to expect her to actually win votes.

Harris jailed black men for possessing pot and kept them in prison after they were supposed to be released. That alone should disqualify her from getting any minority votes.
How could he put political opponents in jail? For what? Bob Barr tried. And Bob Barr wouldn't go after political rivals without evidence. Eventually, even Barr left Trump. Another RINO who refused to go along because everyone who goes along ends up in jail.

But you'll spin it. All his people who were found guilty, is "going after political opponents". Bla bla bla.
 
It seems bizarre that a couple of guys with a few hundred billion dollars between them are the voice of America’s working class, but that’s what they are.

And it’s not like they’re pretending.

They’re not pulling some scam or trick.

Both of them really believe in what they’ve been saying.

You know it because they’ve been saying it forever.

With Donald Trump, his politics are pretty much the same conservative-Jacksonian-populist (yeah, that’s a thing) politics he’s always had, even though his party affiliation has switched.

The same with Elon Musk. Elon Musk is no regular conservative.

He has just always believed in things like free enterprise, free speech, and small government – you know, the same things the nominally conservative conservatives always talk about but never get around to conserving.


BJ-

There is one party of ideas that improve The US.
There is one party of ideas that destroy The US.

Easy to Understand where men such as President Trump and Elon would stand.
(hint - it is the first one.)
You don't know what you're talking about.

Seek help soon. :cuckoo:
 
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Why would I believe anything that he says? He’s got to be one of the least trustworthy people out there.
Hillary believed him because she shut up about it after he said it.
 
It seems bizarre that a couple of guys with a few hundred billion dollars between them are the voice of America’s working class, but that’s what they are.

And it’s not like they’re pretending.

They’re not pulling some scam or trick.

Both of them really believe in what they’ve been saying.

You know it because they’ve been saying it forever.

With Donald Trump, his politics are pretty much the same conservative-Jacksonian-populist (yeah, that’s a thing) politics he’s always had, even though his party affiliation has switched.

The same with Elon Musk. Elon Musk is no regular conservative.

He has just always believed in things like free enterprise, free speech, and small government – you know, the same things the nominally conservative conservatives always talk about but never get around to conserving.


BJ-

There is one party of ideas that improve The US.
There is one party of ideas that destroy The US.

Easy to Understand where men such as President Trump and Elon would stand.
(hint - it is the first one.)

Having been born in South Africa, Elon Musk is a more authentic "African-American" than most every black person in the US.

Do the math: The US population is roughly 333.3 million people, while only 2.1 million sub-Saharan Africans live here.

In other words, only 0.63% of the US population are black folks who were actually born in Africa.
 
It seems bizarre that a couple of guys with a few hundred billion dollars between them are the voice of America’s working class, but that’s what they are.

And it’s not like they’re pretending.

They’re not pulling some scam or trick.

Both of them really believe in what they’ve been saying.

You know it because they’ve been saying it forever.

With Donald Trump, his politics are pretty much the same conservative-Jacksonian-populist (yeah, that’s a thing) politics he’s always had, even though his party affiliation has switched.

The same with Elon Musk. Elon Musk is no regular conservative.

He has just always believed in things like free enterprise, free speech, and small government – you know, the same things the nominally conservative conservatives always talk about but never get around to conserving.


BJ-

There is one party of ideas that improve The US.
There is one party of ideas that destroy The US.

Easy to Understand where men such as President Trump and Elon would stand.
(hint - it is the first one.)
That's shown by how much they love the poorly educated.
 
It seems bizarre that a couple of guys with a few hundred billion dollars between them are the voice of America’s working class, but that’s what they are.

And it’s not like they’re pretending.

They’re not pulling some scam or trick.

Both of them really believe in what they’ve been saying.

You know it because they’ve been saying it forever.

With Donald Trump, his politics are pretty much the same conservative-Jacksonian-populist (yeah, that’s a thing) politics he’s always had, even though his party affiliation has switched.

The same with Elon Musk. Elon Musk is no regular conservative.

He has just always believed in things like free enterprise, free speech, and small government – you know, the same things the nominally conservative conservatives always talk about but never get around to conserving.


BJ-

There is one party of ideas that improve The US.
There is one party of ideas that destroy The US.

Easy to Understand where men such as President Trump and Elon would stand.
(hint - it is the first one.)
You know it because they been saying it…

Ohhh

Moron
 
Elon and Trump want to take unions power away. Firing workers who strike
After We Let the Successpool Take Away Our Backbone, They Stabbed Us in the Back

That's the workers' fault. Union members quit being union men. No red-blooded male should put up with this emasculation by the self-appointed authorities.

It's ironic that in a time of rampant worker sissiness, the greatest unions ever rose. The pro athletes get hundreds of times what they were paid before they manned up.
 
By my estimate, the average college grad these days has no more education than a high-school grad when I went to school.
Which is to say about as much as an 8th grader in the 1850s.
Worse, BJ, college grads are only taught now about one narrow field of skills so they can do one specialized job.
When asked about areas of learning outside their field of view, they are usually dumber than shit.
America is about 30th in the world as far as intelligence is concerned.
The average hard leftist here seems to have an IQ of around 70-90.
Put the Men Back in MENSA

The Educationists don't want you to talk about the real issue: college is work without pay. The no-talent brown-noses who slavishly put themselves through that are job thieves.

Yet the millionaire businessmen who force this unmanly mandate on us give their sons an adult allowance and paid-up tuition. The few who belong in college must demand the same or use their brains against the slavemasters. We can easily bankrupt them if we put our minds to it.
 
I really hate to say this, but so many of you are fooled.

Elon Musk is a technocrat. I've been thinking of starting a thread on the topic of Technocracy, because it seems that so many here don't realize that's the direction we're heading in. Not just the US, but the world. So many here are SO stuck in the right / left paradigm (which btw the powers-that-shouldn't-be want you all to be stuck in) that you're missing the direction we're actually heading in, which is bad for EVERYONE, both "right" and "left."

The true dichotomy is more like Up vs Down.

As for Elon, he flat out said we'll have to have universal basic income. Then when he realized how bad that sounded, he claimed that's not what he wishes will happen, but what he thinks is going to happen. Sorry, I don't buy his "man of the people" act. He's a technocrat, and if you look into Technocracy, it is beyond bad, it is a system that controls everything; resources, the energy we use, every aspect of our lives.



More recently, he said we are going to have "basic high income" which I guess he thinks sounds better, and he also used words like "abundance".... but if you research Technocracy, you will see they use that word in their writings, to make their unfree system sound appealing to us peasants. Again, like I said, I might start a thread on this topic at some point, because it seems that very few people here realize we're heading towards Technocracy.
 
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