Don t Let Anybody Tell You That Businesses Create Jobs

[BlackSand]

Supply and demand ... They both exist, but demand can only be satisfied by supply ... And supply doesn't have to satisfy demand.

 

[OnePercenter]

That's an evasion. You don't know what you are talking about. The demand for air conditioners always existed but the manufacturing of them for the right price point for consumers is what drove sales.

Not at all. My first company was an existing company that held promise. Day one I started making money due to existing receivables which I negotiated in my favor, tweaked the sales and marketing team, had a 100% increase in sales the first year and hired because of the increased demand.

 

[boedicca]

That's an evasion. You don't know what you are talking about. The demand for air conditioners always existed but the manufacturing of them for the right price point for consumers is what drove sales.

Not at all. My first company was an existing company that held promise. Day one I started making money due to existing receivables which I negotiated in my favor, tweaked the sales and marketing team, had a 100% increase in sales the first year and hired because of the increased demand.

"Receivables which (you) negotiated in (your) favor"? Exactly how did that work. People owed you money. Did you get them to pay you more than they already owed?

 

[The Rabbi]

That's an evasion. You don't know what you are talking about. The demand for air conditioners always existed but the manufacturing of them for the right price point for consumers is what drove sales.

Not at all. My first company was an existing company that held promise. Day one I started making money due to existing receivables which I negotiated in my favor, tweaked the sales and marketing team, had a 100% increase in sales the first year and hired because of the increased demand.

"Receivables which (you) negotiated in (your) favor"? Exactly how did that work. People owed you money. Did you get them to pay you more than they already owed?

Presumably he negotiated the sales price on some discount of receivables and received more than the discounted value. That's assuming he's telling the truth which is laughable, as we know.
But he gives the lie when he writes he "tweaked the sales and marketing team". THat sounds like investment in the company. Which is what created the jobs he allegedly went on to hire for.

 

[OnePercenter]

Even if you buy an existing company all you've done is changed ownership. There are no new jobs created.
Ford spent $1B before they ever sold their first Taurus. They had designers, engineers, marketing people, artists, writers etc etc on the project. They had to hire those people in many cases. It worked and the Taurus was a big hit. But Ford spent the money before producing the first automobile.

There were no jobs created because business doesn't create jobs, consumer sales do.

Fords LTD team was transferred to Taurus. I can't find any evidence that anyone new was brought in.

Sure businesses invest. To make the platform for their employees to make all of the money.

 

[boedicca]

That's an evasion. You don't know what you are talking about. The demand for air conditioners always existed but the manufacturing of them for the right price point for consumers is what drove sales.

Not at all. My first company was an existing company that held promise. Day one I started making money due to existing receivables which I negotiated in my favor, tweaked the sales and marketing team, had a 100% increase in sales the first year and hired because of the increased demand.

"Receivables which (you) negotiated in (your) favor"? Exactly how did that work. People owed you money. Did you get them to pay you more than they already owed?

Presumably he negotiated the sales price on some discount of receivables and received more than the discounted value. That's assuming he's telling the truth which is laughable, as we know.
But he gives the lie when he writes he "tweaked the sales and marketing team". THat sounds like investment in the company. Which is what created the jobs he allegedly went on to hire for.

So, he factored his receivables to claw forward some cash, invested that cash because (presumably), he thought he could sell more and make a profit. I doubt he did it to lose his money satisfying Demand At A Loss.

It's really sad when someone who makes money in the private sector is unable to articulate or admit the Virtue of the Profit Motive.

 

[boedicca]

Even if you buy an existing company all you've done is changed ownership. There are no new jobs created.
Ford spent $1B before they ever sold their first Taurus. They had designers, engineers, marketing people, artists, writers etc etc on the project. They had to hire those people in many cases. It worked and the Taurus was a big hit. But Ford spent the money before producing the first automobile.

There were no jobs created because business doesn't create jobs, consumer sales do.

Fords LTD team was transferred to Taurus. I can't find any evidence that anyone new was brought in.

Sure businesses invest. To make the platform for their employees to make all of the money.

You.Are.A.Blithering.Idiot.

 

[OnePercenter]

Supply and demand ... They both exist, but demand can only be satisfied by supply ... And supply doesn't have to satisfy demand.

Which cements my belief that entrepreneurs have metastasized into greedy pricks.

 

[boedicca]

Supply and demand ... They both exist, but demand can only be satisfied by supply ... And supply doesn't have to satisfy demand.

Which cements my belief that entrepreneurs have metastasized into greedy pricks.

Have you donated all of your money to charity?

 

[RKMBrown]

Gas light is very different than electric, bub.

And even if people were demanding something that they didn't even know would exist, that doesn't mean they Created said product.

Uhmmm no, gas light is not very different than electric light bulbs. In fact they are very similar.

Who said consumers created the product? You must have me confused with someone else.

 

[BlackSand]

Gas light is very different than electric, bub.

And even if people were demanding something that they didn't even know would exist, that doesn't mean they Created said product.

Uhmmm no, gas light is not very different than electric light bulbs. In fact they are very similar.

Who said consumers created the product? You must have me confused with someone else.

Y'all are proving it is all about the government ... Since we are now stuck with those ******* pig-tail light bulbs.

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[OnePercenter]

"Receivables which (you) negotiated in (your) favor"? Exactly how did that work. People owed you money. Did you get them to pay you more than they already owed?

Of course. Why would you buy an investment if you can't make the numbers work in your favor?

 

[boedicca]

"Receivables which (you) negotiated in (your) favor"? Exactly how did that work. People owed you money. Did you get them to pay you more than they already owed?

Of course. Why would you buy an investment if you can't make the numbers work in your favor?

Then it's sad that you lack the integrity to admit that it is your desire for Profit that led you to invest and create jobs.

 

[The Rabbi]

Even if you buy an existing company all you've done is changed ownership. There are no new jobs created.
Ford spent $1B before they ever sold their first Taurus. They had designers, engineers, marketing people, artists, writers etc etc on the project. They had to hire those people in many cases. It worked and the Taurus was a big hit. But Ford spent the money before producing the first automobile.

There were no jobs created because business doesn't create jobs, consumer sales do.

Fords LTD team was transferred to Taurus. I can't find any evidence that anyone new was brought in.

Sure businesses invest. To make the platform for their employees to make all of the money.

You.Are.A.Blithering.Idiot.

Of course he is. He throws out statements with no basis at all. Of course Ford hired more people, either as employees or subcontractors. You cant spend a billion dollars simply to move a team from one area to another. And that implies their original job was over, otherwise Ford would have had to hire mroe people to take over the old LTD team's work.

 

[OnePercenter]

So, he factored his receivables to claw forward some cash, invested that cash because (presumably), he thought he could sell more and make a profit. I doubt he did it to lose his money satisfying Demand At A Loss.

It's really sad when someone who makes money in the private sector is unable to articulate or admit the Virtue of the Profit Motive.

The company was financed for five years total capital. I pocketed the cash

FYI, it's all about profit. I'm simply a person that doesn't believe in ******* the people that make it for you.

 

[The Rabbi]

"Receivables which (you) negotiated in (your) favor"? Exactly how did that work. People owed you money. Did you get them to pay you more than they already owed?

Of course. Why would you buy an investment if you can't make the numbers work in your favor?

Then it's sad that you lack the integrity to admit that it is your desire for Profit that led you to invest and create jobs.

Thats because he didnt do anything of the sort. He has no integrity. That's obvious by now.

 

[The Rabbi]

So, he factored his receivables to claw forward some cash, invested that cash because (presumably), he thought he could sell more and make a profit. I doubt he did it to lose his money satisfying Demand At A Loss.

It's really sad when someone who makes money in the private sector is unable to articulate or admit the Virtue of the Profit Motive.

The company was financed for five years total capital. I pocketed the cash

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THat might be the most meaningless statement I've ever seen on this board. And that's saying something

 

[OnePercenter]

Have you donated all of your money to charity?

No. Donations for 2014 will be $1.2M.

 

[OnePercenter]

Uhmmm no, gas light is not very different than electric light bulbs. In fact they are very similar.

Who said consumers created the product? You must have me confused with someone else.

Didn't consumer demand create the need for the product that Edison mass marketed?

 

[OnePercenter]

Then it's sad that you lack the integrity to admit that it is your desire for Profit that led you to invest and create jobs.

You seem to have me confused with the Walmart 7.