Don t Let Anybody Tell You That Businesses Create Jobs

[OnePercenter]

As another poster has put it -- and I have stolen it -- employees are merely a means of mass producing someone else's idea.

The business would exist without them, it would not exist without the person who created it.

The Left's goal here is "you didn't build that, you didn't earn that, therefore you don't own that, it belongs to The Collective".

More than a bit far fetched. Where is it written 'you don't own that?'

 

[Mac1958]

As another poster has put it -- and I have stolen it -- employees are merely a means of mass producing someone else's idea.

The business would exist without them, it would not exist without the person who created it.

The Left's goal here is "you didn't build that, you didn't earn that, therefore you don't own that, it belongs to The Collective".

More than a bit far fetched. Where is it written 'you don't own that?'

Where is it written that "you didn't build that"? Not in the Constitution.

It's the attitude and strategy of the Left, clearly, regardless of any denials.

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[OnePercenter]

This guy actually believes this shit. Business owners only assets when they start out is their inventory. Period end of story. Explain to me how oh i dont know how a pizza oven and dough and toppings is equal to 5 years capital? Hell most new business owe a good 10,000 on their commercial lease when they start. That means they are in debt to begin with. Ever hear the saying starting up a business is risky? Moron.

Why wouldn't you obtain an 18 month five-times inventory loan and use your cash for advertising?

And that creates a 5 years worth of working capital how? For only advertising? Lol... it better go for more than that.. do you know all the expenses of a business? If so i want you to list them 1 by 1.

Instead of going off half cocked, answer the question: Why wouldn't you obtain an 18 month five-times inventory loan and use your cash for advertising?

 

[OnePercenter]

Wtf? One question for you that will solve this disaster you just created witg this horrific frightning posts. Who hired and trained and managed these employees?

Employees of the employer.

Wrong. Owners can hire anyone willing to work for there price. If they are under trained then the owner trains them. The employer controls EVERYTHING. He also hires the second employee and trains that employee in how he wants his business run which creates a chain reaction. If there is a crack in leadership with any employee they are let go. This is why the owner is the most essential employee of the company. His vision is the company and every employee has to work for that vision or they know they will be let go.

So you're saying that employees of the employer DON'T train new employees?

 

[OnePercenter]

There was no public demand for the personal computer on which you're typing. The idea of it had to be sold to the public. It took guts and ingenuity and relentless effort and massive personal risk to bring computers to the mainstream.

But the Left just doesn't, or will not, understand the dynamics of business.

It took great marketing and money. Risk was minimal.

 

[OnePercenter]

Help is hired when sales increase.... (sales = demand)

I have a small business, run by myself, and I am now almost to the point with my sales, to be able to hire a part time person to help....if my sales/demand had not increased, then I would not be able to take on a new hire...

But at the same time, if I did not have the money to increase my supply of what is projected in demand/sales, then hiring another person would be fruitless....

Both are needed, demand, and the ability to supply the product for the increase in demand.

Imagine how well you'd be doing today if you adequately financed from inception!

It was a Hobby, when I started...I had already retired young... about 10 years after I had retired and was spending my days as just a Mod on a political message board while my husband was at work, the boredom overcame me...so I started to do crafts that I used to do when I was a teen, and had time to do them....well, that became boring too, so my sister suggested I open an internet shop and try to sell some of what I made....that was fine too, for a little while, but THEN the demand for my handmade items took off, and the demand increased, especially for my handmade pet beds and bath rugs....so then I had to move deliveries out.., originally it was 1-2 weeks, then 3-4 weeks, then 4-6 weeks then 6-10 weeks from the time the custom order was placed for the cotton rugs to shipping....and even that did not stop customers from wanting and buying them, so then I started on raising my prices to slow business down, (after all, I am retired, and this was suppose to be fun and not a business)....obviously, what I made called for more money...or I would not have so many people wanting them....and even that has not slowed the demand...so now prices are high enough on the handmade items that I can afford to hire someone part time to do the paperwork, take the photos of the items and listing them on the net, and boxing and shipping, giving me more time to hand make the items....(have not done this yet, but I can afford to now)

I'll never be a millionaire from this, my little fingers can hand crochet only so much in a 24 hour period, BUT SOMEONE, that is not semi retired, could make a heck of a go, for it.....the demand and signs of future demand is there, begging for it....and some day, someone will find a gazillion fingers to make these handmade cotton rugs in Viet nam or China.... and be that millionaire!

So it's not a business, but a hobby where you can make money. Great!

 

[Mac1958]

There was no public demand for the personal computer on which you're typing. The idea of it had to be sold to the public. It took guts and ingenuity and relentless effort and massive personal risk to bring computers to the mainstream.

But the Left just doesn't, or will not, understand the dynamics of business.

It took great marketing and money. Risk was minimal.

Yeah, Woz and Jobs just threw some of their spare cash at it and told a few folks and they changed the world.

Holy crap, the mind of a partisan ideologue is a fascinating thing.

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[OnePercenter]

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The owner hires and fires as needed to keep his or her business concern going. When it is growing, the owner hires more but still owns and is responsible for the business.

I'm trying to keep this at third grade level, how am I doing?

If the owner fire then he/she didn't hire correctly.

When a business grows and the owner hires additional employees, it's due to consumer spending which created the new jobs.

 

[Mac1958]

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The owner hires and fires as needed to keep his or her business concern going. When it is growing, the owner hires more but still owns and is responsible for the business.

I'm trying to keep this at third grade level, how am I doing?

If the owner fire then he/she didn't hire correctly.

When a business grows and the owner hires additional employees, it's due to consumer spending which created the new jobs.

It's clear that you don't know what you're talking about with both comments.

Please try this routine on someone who buys it.

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[OnePercenter]

Read the story of Apple and get back to me.

Ideas appear out of the blue all the time.

The actual story

BrandVoice Steve Jobs Didn t Really Invent Anything. Really - Forbes

 

[OnePercenter]

Wrong, every sentence.
But at least you're admitting employers hire employees.

I've never stated that employers don't hire employees. Additional sales created the need for more employees which is creation.

Quote my post in response to this and see if it holds up troll. You are so full of shit and YOU of all people know it. Funny. Lol

I've never stated that employers don't hire employees.

 

[OnePercenter]

To take out a loan for start up which is usually in you personal name theres huge risk. Many owners have to file bankruptcy which is a huge 7 to 10 year blow. Have you rver taken out a loan for an idea rather than a need ? No you havent and i dont need to hear it from you.

Your saying that a business plan is an idea rather than a need? Hint: It's a plan.

Why should you use your own funds? There are TRILLIONS of dollars out there looking for an investment. You really need to start thinking out of the box.

 

[OnePercenter]

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The Left is ideologically obligated to deny the myriad risks, complexities and difficulties of starting, growing and operating a business.

You didn't build that, you didn't earn that, you don't deserve that, it belongs to The Collective.

That's it. No matter what.

I've owned and sold for a profit two businesses, and currently own a business that has been opened for seven years and will reach a $100M revenue this year. I have yet to see the 'myriad risks, complexities and difficulties' that you speak. Perhaps you can 'edumcate' me......I seem to be doing something wrong.

 

[OnePercenter]

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The owner hires and fires as needed to keep his or her business concern going. When it is growing, the owner hires more but still owns and is responsible for the business.

I'm trying to keep this at third grade level, how am I doing?

******* brilliant dude. Brilliant.

That speaks volumes

 

[OnePercenter]

To take out a loan for start up which is usually in you personal name theres huge risk. Many owners have to file bankruptcy which is a huge 7 to 10 year blow. Have you rver taken out a loan for an idea rather than a need ? No you havent and i dont need to hear it from you.

Well first of all Mac. We were not talking about "many owners". We were talking about Gates and Jobs. Remember. Or do you want to move away from that topic now?

But anyway, as I understand it. Gates and Jobs both were very young men who initially started their inventions in a garage.

Again how much did they "risk" in the invention process? So they had a few thousand dollars invested. You think a few thousand dollar loss to an inventor is going to bankrupt them? Especially a young man?

But if you don't want to "hear it from you" then lets go back to the original topic. Gates and Jobs. After all, you are the one that used them as your "example"

Didn't you like it that I pointed out that the need for high speed computing already existed before the "computer" was invented?

And the truth is; Gates opened Microsoft with another's operating system, and Jobs didn't invent anything.

 

[OnePercenter]

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Yes i do believe to my bones its a huge risk . A few thousand can be the diffference between being evicted or having food on the table. Owners are human beings and can be minorities you know. Got you, btw. Game set match.

Your bones are wrong.

1. Five years total capital
2. Know who to hire (which you can farm out)
3. NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, HIRE FAMILY

 

[OnePercenter]

I have 1. 25 independent contractors that net me over a million a year. Because of me teaching them how to sell they all make over $100,000 a year. Its unheard for that to happen with a kirby franchise. Theres thousands of them my family for over 70 years has been top 10 in the world. Its due to our methods that i teach.

Congrats, your on top of the pyramid playing the numbers.

 

[OnePercenter]

Yes, it's their goal, that's the purpose of pretending the people make the business happen. But employees may be producing your idea, not someone else's. Plus, increasingly, bodies are being replaced with automation. And some business have no employees but exist just fine. Employees do not create business, it's the other way around.

Name one.

 

[OnePercenter]

Cool!! All you liberals who work for a business need to quit your job,since you dont work there.

Business hires liberals because business wants an educated work force.

Yeah...like all those liberals demonstrating outside the MickyDs.

You mean American workers wanting a livable wage?

 

[OnePercenter]

Not all businesses are multi-national and multi-corporate. If fact, it's the minority of businesses. They aren't investing, especially here, in a hostile anti-business climate.

But I do hope Pizza Hut gives you that 50 cent raise.

Yeah, we don't have children working in factories for $1.00/day.