Dominionists run for highest office in US

[tonystewart1]

Skydancer you are trying to turn Christians into villians.

No. I point out there are villains who claim Christianity.

Re read your posts. Your almost as bad as Hitler blaming the Jews. You would love nothing better than to see a huge backlash against Christians in this country.

 

[Dot Com]

Thats where Republicorp got the idea for mountaintop-removal and other *cough* "efficient" methods of energy production. "Dominon" means profit for them and poisoned water for everyone else.

Nice backhanded insult to a miner working a strip job. How about you turn your power off and try to live on windmill, solar panel, or magic rainbow power.

I got nothin against the miners but the short-cuts that the owners/mgt take that leave the community holding the bag after they pull-out.

 

[JakeStarkey]

tonystewart crys the victim when he does the victimization.

Your silliness does not wash here, kiddo.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Skydancer you are trying to turn Christians into villians.

No. I point out there are villains who claim Christianity.

Re read your posts. Your almost as bad as Hitler blaming the Jews. You would love nothing better than to see a huge backlash against Christians in this country.

Not all Christians are dominionists, but all dominionists claim Christianity.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No. I point out there are villains who claim Christianity.

Re read your posts. Your almost as bad as Hitler blaming the Jews. You would love nothing better than to see a huge backlash against Christians in this country.

Not all Christians are dominionists, but all dominionists claim Christianity.

Just so.

 

[tonystewart1]

tonystewart crys the victim when he does the victimization.

Your silliness does not wash here, kiddo.

What victimization are you talking about. Read this thread no where have I ever claimed that the govt should sponsor christianity. I have stated on numerous occasions that govt and religion do not mix. You see that I am a Christian and a Republican and just make your own assumptions about me. How very wrong you are.

PS Dont call me kiddo. I am almost 40 years old.

 

[tonystewart1]

Re read your posts. Your almost as bad as Hitler blaming the Jews. You would love nothing better than to see a huge backlash against Christians in this country.

Not all Christians are dominionists, but all dominionists claim Christianity.

Just so.

Not all muslims are terroists but all terrorists claim islam.

 

[Dot Com]

I can't imagine someone from ANY country claiming that god is on their side

 

[Sky Dancer]

Not all Christians are dominionists, but all dominionists claim Christianity.

Just so.

Not all muslims are terroists but all terrorists claim islam.

Not true. Some terrorists claim Christianity.

 

[tonystewart1]

Just so.

Not all muslims are terroists but all terrorists claim islam.

Not true. Some terrorists claim Christianity.

Who other than Timothy McVeigh?

 

[peach174]

Organized religion cannot go into government. The government certainly can prohibit the free exercise of religion; check Reynolds v. U.S. 1879 for such an example, or Warren Jeffs v. State of Texas.

However, religious values of people do inform how government works, such as the House, the Senate, and SCOTUS. That does not mean the government gets to tell kids how and when and what to pray to in public schools.

It did before atheists got neutral prayer out of schools.
Government never told kids how and when and what to pray.
When we had neutral prayer it never indoctrinated any religion. Your parents had the right to teach you if there was a God or not. And that you had the right to not say the prayer.
Now it has become, you don't have the right to bring your religion into school or public expression, or government.
That is a direct violation of our constitutional rights.
Because of this we have not able to teach very much about US History because too much religion was interwoven into it.
We were a Christian nation at the beginning and we are Christian nation now.
We have the right to celebrate Christmas in our schools, on our government buildings on our city streets and in our stores.
The minority has now ruled over the majority and that is completely unconstitutional.
Jesus is the reason for the season and the minority of atheists and a few others are trying to shut it up.
It is prohibiting the free exercise (unconstituioal)

There is no such thing as "neutral prayer", except silence. Where did this alleged "neutral" prayer come from? Christianity. Your rights are in no way endangered if we don't allow teachers to lead Christian prayers in public school classrooms.
If prayer in school is THAT necessary, you ought to homeschool your kids or send them to Christian schools.

NO one is stopping Christmas. That "culture war" was invented by the right wing. God forbid you might say "Happy Hannukah" to a Jew, or "Season's Greetings" to an atheist. You don't have the right to place RELIGIOUS symbols in government buildings. There are non-religious ways to honor the season.

There is separation of church and state. Recognize that YOUR religious freedom is actually protected by that premise.

We used to have the right to palce religious symbols on government buildings. All court houses had the the ten commandments in them.
Denver had Christmas lights on their civic center.
The right for us to do this has been stopped by the few.
Denver Public Library Digital Collections : Item Viewer
People of all faiths and no faiths came to see this beautiful site.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Not all muslims are terroists but all terrorists claim islam.

Not true. Some terrorists claim Christianity.

Who other than Timothy McVeigh?

The IRA, the abortion clinic bombers, the guy in Norway, the KKK, the Hutaree, the National Liberation Front of Tripura in India, the Manhassi National Christian Army in Assam.

 

[freedombecki]

Liberals don't seem to be able to get it in their heads that our Constitution is to limit government powers.
Government is not suppose to make any laws in establishing any religion or prohibiting their free exercise of it.
No Christian has ever said that we were or ever was a Theocracy. Nor are they doing it now.
Government can not go into religion but religion can go into our government.
This is why we have opening prayer in the House, Senate and The Supreme Court every morning before the opening of business.

Organized religion cannot go into government. The government certainly can prohibit the free exercise of religion; check Reynolds v. U.S. 1879 for such an example, or Warren Jeffs v. State of Texas.

However, religious values of people do inform how government works, such as the House, the Senate, and SCOTUS. That does not mean the government gets to tell kids how and when and what to pray to in public schools.

Child rape in Texas is against the law. Warren Jeffs was convicted of child rape, not religion. Bigamy in Utah is also against the law. In 1879, George Reynolds married Amelia Jane Schofield while still married to Mary Ann Tuddenham. Bigamy is illegal.

The government did not go after a religion. The government went after a dastardly crime in both cases.

Rape and bigamy are crimes in the USA. Wanna do rape or bigamy? Don't do it here or the government will go after you for a heinous crime.

 

[Sky Dancer]

What about hate crime, becki?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What about hate crime, becki?

You have yet to provide us with evidence we are in danger of a theocracy. In fact your whole premise is wrong, you see the President has no power to create amendments, pass or even vote on Amendments or change the law.

The only danger we would have of a theocracy was if you could show the following 3 things.

1) that the House of Representatives was in danger of electing 218 or more members of this supposed dangerous religion.

2) the Senate was in Danger of electing 51 or more of these supposed dangerous religion.

3) 37 or more States had majority populations of this supposed dangerous religion.

Without ALL 3 no Amendment can be created or passed and theological change can't happen to our Government.

Notice none of the 3 have ANYTHING at all to do with the Presidency?

 

[tonystewart1]

Not true. Some terrorists claim Christianity.

Who other than Timothy McVeigh?

The IRA, the abortion clinic bombers, the guy in Norway, the KKK, the Hutaree, the National Liberation Front of Tripura in India, the Manhassi National Christian Army in Assam.

Anyone who harms others or trys to deny the rights of others under the banner of Christianity are not Christians. I have told you that many times.

There is no point in vilifying Christians as a whole. Or the Pentecostal or Apostolic movements.

And dont do the expected and claim that you did not vilify those groups because you have in this thread and any other thread you can.

 

[tonystewart1]

What about hate crime, becki?

You have yet to provide us with evidence we are in danger of a theocracy. In fact your whole premise is wrong, you see the President has no power to create amendments, pass or even vote on Amendments or change the law.

The only danger we would have of a theocracy was if you could show the following 3 things.

1) that the House of Representatives was in danger of electing 218 or more members of this supposed dangerous religion.

2) the Senate was in Danger of electing 51 or more of these supposed dangerous religion.

3) 37 or more States had majority populations of this supposed dangerous religion.

Without ALL 3 no Amendment can be created or passed and theological change can happen to our Government.

Notice none of the 3 have ANYTHING at all to do with the Presidency?

Her whole point has been from the begining to bash Christianity.

 

[freedombecki]

Jake, I'm convinced you haven't cracked a book nor read much on George Washington.

General Washington's prayer was witnessed by a man who owned property near where his troops were camped. He saw Washington and told other townspeople about his praying out in the open.

Most modern scholars believe the Snowden story was wishful thinking. Nice try, though.

If you referring to today's socialist, scholars of rewritten historical sophistry, I respectfully disagree. Nice try yourself, but no cigar.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Who other than Timothy McVeigh?

The IRA, the abortion clinic bombers, the guy in Norway, the KKK, the Hutaree, the National Liberation Front of Tripura in India, the Manhassi National Christian Army in Assam.

Anyone who harms others or trys to deny the rights of others under the banner of Christianity are not Christians. I have told you that many times.

There is no point in vilifying Christians as a whole. Or the Pentecostal or Apostolic movements.

And dont do the expected and claim that you did not vilify those groups because you have in




this thread and any other thread you can.

I completely agree, those who try to harm others are not true Christians. The problem is, THEY think they are, and THEY call themselves Christians. YOUR statement that ALL terrorists are Muslim is inaccurate.

I wouldn't trust a Pentecostal or the Apostolic movements myself. But, if you happen to be one of them, I won't hold that against you.

I like you.

 

[tonystewart1]

Jake, I'm convinced you haven't cracked a book nor read much on George Washington.

General Washington's prayer was witnessed by a man who owned property near where his troops were camped. He saw Washington and told other townspeople about his praying out in the open.

Most modern scholars believe the Snowden story was wishful thinking. Nice try, though.

If you referring to today's socialist, scholars of rewritten historical sophistry, I respectfully disagree. Nice try yourself, but no cigar.

You got to feel sorry for anyone that goes to a liberal arts college and swallows the pill whole. They lose their ability to think for themselves.