Domestic Terrorist Arrested

[scruffy]

Actually, it requires more than that.

No it doesn't. The law is quite precise.

War is violence for political ends.

Yes. It usually involves terror.

 

[toobfreak]

War is violence for political ends.

War usually involves territory and many other things. War can be sanctioned by a government over many things justified or not, but terrorism is not war because it is employed by individuals, not governments, and the sole aim of terrorism is to create anarchy within a society, often with no particular personal gain.

For instance, none of these people firebombing Teslas has gained anything in doing so. Not financially, not materially, it is purely a deliberate action done over a perceived slight.

Politicians in Washington and talking heads in the media have brainwashed and convinced idiots that Musk is an existential threat so great they are willing to ruin their personal lives, risk killing others, over it.

And those that truly gain in the melee didn't have to shell out one dime for these useful idiots to do their dirty work.

 

[Harry Dresden]

No, but if I ever need a simple-minded bigot to translate my eloquence into a straw dog tiny enough even you can almost beat it up, I'll let you know.
Different peoples have dominated at different times, the current western dominance has not been a particularly lengthy one, your poor education leaves you ignorant of minority contributions to technology, and as far as the US goes, our only unique contribution to western culture has been jazz. That didn't come from a barbershop quartet. All you've done is provide evidence that Klan hoods are form fitting.
Oh, as for "third world," have you ever been to Mississippi? Even with all the help they get from the productive blue states, Rightardia remains America's Third World.

just jazz?....how about the blues and rock n roll?.....

 

[ColonelAngus]

We do get to know who the crazy people are.

They are self identifying when they do this….and we also get to see who supports and condones it. They are also crazy assholes.

 

[Wobbly]

No it doesn't. The law is quite precise.

The law you don't cite is "quite precise"? You said

Violence for political ends is terrorism by definition.

That's what the law says.

I said it is more than that simplicity, you bluffed a denial. Let's see who's right ..

§2331. Definitions​

As used in this chapter—

(1) the term "international terrorism" means activities that—

(A) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State;

(B) appear to be intended—

(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and


(C) occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum;


(2) the term "national of the United States" has the meaning given such term in section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act;

(3) the term "person" means any individual or entity capable of holding a legal or beneficial interest in property;

(4) the term "act of war" means any act occurring in the course of—

(A) declared war;

(B) armed conflict, whether or not war has been declared, between two or more nations; or

(C) armed conflict between military forces of any origin;


(5) the term "domestic terrorism" means activities that—

(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

(B) appear to be intended—

(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and


(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States; and


(6) the term "military force" does not include any person that—

(A) has been designated as a—

(i) foreign terrorist organization by the Secretary of State under section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1189); or

(ii) specially designated global terrorist (as such term is defined in section 594.310 of title 31, Code of Federal Regulations) by the Secretary of State or the Secretary of the Treasury; or


(B) has been determined by the court to not be a "military force".

That looks like "more to it" to me, feeble blowhard.

Yes. It usually involves terror.

Yes, war "involves" terrorism. However, it is not legally defined as terrorism, as you declared, and I denied. MAGAts think creating their own reality is a super power.

 

[Wobbly]

Actually NO. That was simply a peaceful protest gone bad where a group of people showed up to constitutionally air their grievances over the stolen election who finally got pissed off with capitol cops throwing exploding grenades into the crowd.

Yeah, look how peacefully and Constitutionally the easily suckered losers attacked police.

And, anybody who thinks the election was stolen even after your victim-wannabe conspiracy theories were shot down even by trump-appointed judges has a case of terminal crybaby.

 

[Wobbly]

BS

Leftwing talking points with a Red State Rant

And, yet rather than even try to rebut any of it, this impotent squeak was the best you could do. Libertardians squeal with a mouth full of govt tit, while playing Hondo in cyberspace that the government mostly developed.

 

[Wobbly]

War usually involves territory and many other things. War can be sanctioned by a government over many things justified or not, but terrorism is not war because it is employed by individuals, not governments, and the sole aim of terrorism is to create anarchy within a society, often with no particular personal gain.

For instance, none of these people firebombing Teslas has gained anything in doing so. Not financially, not materially, it is purely a deliberate action done over a perceived slight.

Politicians in Washington and talking heads in the media have brainwashed and convinced idiots that Musk is an existential threat so great they are willing to ruin their personal lives, risk killing others, over it.

And those that truly gain in the melee didn't have to shell out one dime for these useful idiots to do their dirty work.

Rambling, illiterate gibberish does not support the conspiracy theories you are trying to be a victim of.

 

[Ava]

The guy must have some sort of psychological issues. Who would engage in such random attacks?

Any terrorist who wants to accept money from George Soros?

 

[Wobbly]

BTW, crybaby MAGAts, the French Resistance against Nazi occupation was terrorism. So was the Boston Tea Party and many other actions by American colonists, leading to the Revolution.

Okay, back to your search for some vicarious victimhood.

 

[struth]

I laughed when I heard our lovely attorney general refer to Molotov cocktails as WMDs.
The jokes write themselves.

why do you think Molotov cocktails are funny?

 

[struth]

Vandal. not terrorist.

These are democrat brownshirt terrorist.

 

[d0gbreath]

why do you think Molotov cocktails are funny?

They're not funny. Calling them WMDs is.

 

[struth]

They're not funny. Calling them WMDs is.

They are weapons designed for mass destruction. They are weapons of terrorist.

You are laughing at terrorism. It's a new low for the demaklan party

 

[M14 Shooter]

You are laughing at terrorism. It's a new low for the demaklan party

And yet, they are far from hitting bottom.

 

[struth]

And yet, they are far from hitting bottom.

This is true....they will dig deeper and deeper and deeper.

 

[Zincwarrior]

They are weapons designed for mass destruction. They are weapons of terrorist.

You are laughing at terrorism. It's a new low for the demaklan party

I would argue they could be used by a terrorist, but don't meet the definition of an WMD.

A weapon of mass destruction is a nuclear, radiological, chemical, biological, or other device that is intended to harm a large number of people. The Department of Homeland Security works every day to prevent terrorists and other threat actors from using these weapons to harm Americans

Weapons of Mass Destruction | Homeland Security

Weapons of Mass Destruction

www.dhs.gov

 

[struth]

I would argue they could be used by a terrorist, but don't meet the definition of an WMD.

Weapons of Mass Destruction | Homeland Security

Weapons of Mass Destruction

www.dhs.gov

why not? it's a chemical device met to harm a large number of people.

 

[Zincwarrior]

why not? it's a chemical device met to harm a large number of people.

Large number - hundreds to thousands.

Its an incendiary device meant to injure people or damage property, best mde from one third gasoline, one third diesel, and one third styrofoam. Not really effective against tanks.

 

[Wobbly]

As of 2023, according to New America's tally, 133 people have been killed in right-wing extremist terrorist attacks since 9/11. The incidents which caused deaths were the following:[102]

Year	Occurrence	Location	Victims Wounded*	Victims Killed*
2023	Jacksonville Dollar General shooting	Jacksonville, Florida	0	3
2023	Allen, Texas outlet mall shooting	Allen, Texas	7	8
2022	Buffalo supermarket shooting	Buffalo, New York	3	10
2020	Boogaloo murders	Oakland, California Santa Cruz, California	3	2
2019	El Paso Walmart shooting	El Paso, Texas	26	22
2019	Poway synagogue shooting	Poway, California	3	1
2018	Jeffersontown Kroger shooting	Jeffersontown, Kentucky	0	2
2018	Black man burned by White supremacist	Murfreesboro, Tennessee	0	1
2018	Pittsburgh synagogue shooting	Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania	7	11
2018	Murder of Blaze Bernstein	Orange County, California	0	1
2018	Murder of MeShon Cooper-Williams	Kansas City, Missouri	0	1
2018	Murders of Danny and Deanna Lorenzo	Lee County, Florida	0	2
2017	Murder of Richard Collins III	College Park, Maryland	0	1
2017	Car-ramming attack into counter-protesters at the white nationalist Unite the Right rally	Charlottesville, Virginia	28	1
2017	Portland train attack	Portland, Oregon	1	2
2017	Murder of Timothy Caughman	New York City, New York	0	1
2015	Shooting at a showing of the film Trainwreck	Lafayette, Louisiana	9	2
2015	Planned Parenthood shooting	Colorado Springs, Colorado	9	3
2015	Charleston church shooting at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church	Charleston, South Carolina	1	9
2014	Attack on Pennsylvania State Police barracks	Blooming Grove, Pennsylvania	1	1
2014	Ambush attack on Las Vegas police officers	Las Vegas, Nevada		3
2014	Overland Park Jewish Community Center shooting	Overland Park, Kansas		3
2013	Los Angeles International Airport shooting attack on TSA officer	Los Angeles, California	6	1
2013	Double murder committed by Jeremy Lee Moody and Christine Moody	Jonesville, South Carolina	0	2
2012	Ambush attack against St. John the Baptist Parish police	St. John the Baptist Parish, Louisiana	2	2
2012	Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting	Oak Creek, Wisconsin	4	6
2011	Tri-state killing spree by white supremacists David Pedersen and Holly Grigsby	Multiple		4
2011	FEAR group attacks	Georgia		3
2011	Murder of James Craig Anderson	Jackson, Mississippi	0	1
2010	Murder committed by Aryan Brotherhood members	Mississippi	0	1
2010	Shooting at bookstore cafe perpetrated by Ross William Muehlberger	Wichita Falls, Texas	4	1
2010	Murder of Todd Getgen[110][111]	Carlisle, Pennsylvania	0	1
2009	Murder of sex offender by white supremacists	North Palm Springs, California	0	1
2009	Murder committed by Charles Francis Gaskins	Carmichael, California	0	1
2009	United States Holocaust Memorial Museum shooting	Washington, D.C.	1	1
2009	Assassination of George Tiller	Wichita, Kansas	1	1
2009	Murders of Raul and Brisenia Flores	Arivaca, Arizona	1	2
2009	Shooting of Pittsburgh police officers	Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania	2	3
2008	Woodburn bank bombing	Woodburn, Oregon	2	2
2008	Knoxville Unitarian Universalist church shooting	Knoxville, Tennessee	8	2
2007	Murder of homeless man by Aryan Soldiers		0	1
2006	Murder committed by John Ditullio		1	1
2004	Bank robbery	Tulsa, Oklahoma	0	1
2003	Torture, abduction and murder	Salinas, California	0	1
2001	Post-September 11 shootings	Multiple	1	2

[td]

* Count of "victims killed" and "victims wounded" excludes attackers.​

[/td]​

Prevalence of right-wing terrorism compared to left-wing​

A report in The Washington Post, published on November 25, 2018, showed violent right-wing-related incidents up, and left-wing-related incidents down. Total domestic terrorism incidents was down to 41 in 2001, from a high of 468 in 1970, but then went up to 65 in 2017. Of those 65 events in 2017, 36 were right-wing-related (with 11 fatalities), 10 were left-wing-related (with 6 fatalities), 7 were related to Islamist extremism (with 16 fatalities), and 12, including the 2017 Las Vegas shooting, were categorized as "Other/Unknown" (with 62 fatalities, including 58 from the Las Vegas incident at the time). The report found that 2018 was a particularly deadly year, with 11 people dying in the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, 2 others in an incident in Kentucky, and two more in a shooting in Tallahassee. All three incidents were right-wing related.[112]

Right-wing terrorism - Wikipedia

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