DOJ Admits Federal Government Ran Informants Inside the Oath Keepers on Jan. 6 & they could be called to testify under 6th Amendment

[Correll]

Who gassed them up?
Who filled them up with a bunch of false information and then said lets march on the capitol?

Is Trump guilty of starting the Riot? That is a tough to prove as it would have to know more going on his mind.
Was Trump highly irresponsible to the point that people were killed? YES, that has been clearly proven...

Maybe the people in the riot didn't think they were in an insurrection but under the definition of the law they were... They were disrupting the the ratification of an election.
It wasn't like Trump said to them beforehand , 'by the way, if you disrupt congress in ratifying an election it could be legally seen as insurrection'...

This is one of the reasons Trump should be not President. He either doesn't understand or doesn't care the power of the office...

The people Trump speaks for, deserve to be heard. The fact that people expect to sideline us forever, is a sin.

 

[Faun]

Sure buddy, whatever you say.

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What I said is there's no evidence he was affiliated with Antifa. And you still have offered no evidence he was.

 

[Chillicothe]

"Either way, he is a case of an outside infilitrator and agitator."

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"a case"?

Ummm? "a case"? One case?

So, good poster Correll has his singular......John Sullivan.
In contradistinction to the DOJ, who has 919 (and counting).

So, trust me, poster Correll.......size does matter.
And arithmetic is a thing.
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"At least 919 people have been charged in the Capitol insurrection so far. This searchable table shows them all."​

At least 1,003 people have been charged in the Capitol insurrection so far. This searchable table shows them all.

Thousands of pro-Trump supporters descended on the US Capitol on January 6, 2021. Two years later, more than 1,000 have been charged with crimes.

www.insider.com

 

[Chillicothe]

"...the federal LE should be trying to infiltrate them and that it would be a gross failure on their part, if they have not?"

Personally, for me and my avatar, well......well, we both are not presuming the Feds are not.

You too?

 

[Correll]

What I said is there's no evidence he was affiliated with Antifa. And you still have offered no evidence he was.

Sure. Just his statements, and his actions and his being arrested doing blm style rioting.

 

[Correll]

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"a case"?

Ummm? "a case"? One case?

So, good poster Correll has his singular......John Sullivan.
In contradistinction to the DOJ, who has 919 (and counting).

So, trust me, poster Correll.......size does matter.
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Before he was found, the position of people like you was that it was absurd to think that there could have been infiltrators or outside agitators there.


Now, we see that those that said that, were completetly wrong.


Now, the NEW position of people like you, is....


Well, actually it's still teh same. To dismiss the idea.


Once they/you have your face rubbed in the example, then you adjust, for a little while.


In a day or two, you willl edit this from your memory and go back to pretending that it is absurd that there could have been outside infiltrators or agitators there on 1/6.

And you will still be completely wrong.


So, that's where we are at and where we will stay. You people holding to a false position and stonewalling on it.

 

[Correll]

Personally, for me and my avatar, well......well, we both are not presuming the Feds are not.

You too?

You ever hear of a case being brought based on such an informant or undercover agent?


I've heard of many with supposedly right leaning groups. But none for Antfia or BLM.


You're assuming both competence and good will from the Federal Government.


Which is naive beyond belief at this point in time.

 

[Faun]

Sure. Just his statements, and his actions and his being arrested doing blm style rioting.


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You mean this statement where he denied Antifa even exists?

"I don't know where you get, there's an organization named Antifa."​

Or do you mean this statement where he denies being Antifa...

“I’m not antifa.”​

And BLM style rioting (whatever that is) does not make one a member of Antifa.

 

[Oldestyle]

Then how did Baranyi know what Byrd said? The one lying is you, not Byrd.

The only definitive answer to what was "said" is audio from the multiple videos, Faun! Byrd has a very good reason to remember it happening differently than how it actually did happen! He just shot and killed an unarmed female...jumping out from hiding to do so. Claiming that he shouted a warning to get back before he pulled the trigger makes what he did sound less heinous but the audio from those videos doesn't back up that claim. He's the only one who panicked...the only one who used deadly force against unarmed protesters.

 

[Lesh]

Sure. Just his statements, and his actions and his being arrested doing blm style rioting.


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Also the fact that BLM kicked his ass to the curb month prior because they caught on that he was an agent provocateur.

BLM thought possibly for LE because they were battling with LE on a daily basis

He had no known ties to LE...but did have ties to the Proud Boys.

So your ONE "Antifa/BLM" Capitol rioter turns out to be neither

 

[Lesh]

The only definitive answer to what was "said" is audio from the multiple videos, Faun! Byrd has a very good reason to remember it happening differently than how it actually did happen! He just shot and killed an unarmed female...jumping out from hiding to do so. Claiming that he shouted a warning to get back before he pulled the trigger makes what he did sound less heinous but the audio from those videos doesn't back up that claim. He's the only one who panicked...the only one who used deadly force against unarmed protesters.

Jumping out your ass. Look at the video.

He was stationed on the Congress side of that barricade that was being breached by a violent crowd and through which a crazy woman with a backpack on was climbing...KNOWING that a gun was pointed at her face.

 

[Oldestyle]

Nope, you're lying again. For one, they were not being escorted out yet. They were huddled down, waiting to be escorted out. For another, you're lying sbout a flag pole. You can't even see such a flag pole, you just made that up. And someone there even said, "sounded like a gunshot."

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

'I really thought that I was going to die.' Members of Congress remember Jan. 6

During the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, six Congress members from California hid, fled or watched as a pro-Trump mob attacked. They look back and discuss what's changed.

www.latimes.com

Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection a year later: Congress members reveal details of their escape

The USA TODAY Network's Atlantic Group spoke to eight Congress members from the region about their experiences the day protesters stormed the Capitol.

www.lohud.com

I was in the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. Here’s what I saw during the attack.

“Shots fired in the Capitol! Get down!” Congressman Tom Suozzi offers a first-person account what happened in the chamber of the U.S. House as armed rioters stormed the building.

www.americamagazine.org

 

[Oldestyle]

Jumping out your ass. Look at the video.

He was stationed on the Congress side of that barricade that was being breached by a violent crowd and through which a crazy woman with a backpack on was climbing...KNOWING that a gun was pointed at her face.

Really Lesh? Could you see him through those doors before the shot was fired? You couldn't because he was out of sight to the left of the doors. My question at that point is why did he feel compelled to execute someone THEN? Why did he decide to jump out and shoot an unarmed person at point blank range? Inside the House Chamber everyone had been evacuated except for a group of 20 that had been up in the Gallery and they were in the process of being led out when the shot was fired. So what was his rationale for shooting Ashli Babbitt? To "save" members of Congress? How so? They were already gone or were part of a small group that were about to be gone! So why pull the trigger THEN?

 

[Faun]

The only definitive answer to what was "said" is audio from the multiple videos, Faun! Byrd has a very good reason to remember it happening differently than how it actually did happen! He just shot and killed an unarmed female...jumping out from hiding to do so. Claiming that he shouted a warning to get back before he pulled the trigger makes what he did sound less heinous but the audio from those videos doesn't back up that claim. He's the only one who panicked...the only one who used deadly force against unarmed protesters.

You're lying again. Sad how you can't stop. The audio from the videos is anything but definitive. It's mostly yelling and screaming and banging on the doors. With Byrd on the other side, it's not possible to rule out his claim that he issued warnings as you can't tell since much of the yelling is undiscernable.

Now had Byrd been the only one to claim he warned the mob to "get back," I would agree with you that there's insufficient evidence to accept him at his word. But that's not the case. Someone from that mob claimed he heard the warnings. And given he recalled hearing the same exact warning, "get back," it confirms Byrd was telling the truth.

And as I've highlighted repeatedly... you have absolutely no lucid explanation for Baranyi could have heard the exact same words Byrd used unless he heard them, as he claimed.

 

[Batcat]

Ray Epps will surface!

If they charge Ray Epps he will more than likely say he was hired to incite rioters. Therefore he will not be charged.

Democrats and those who help Democrats incite Trump supporters to riot are totally above the law. Those terrible, angry Trump supporters are a serious danger to our nation and many are armed with the most dangerous rifle in the world, the dreaded AR-15 which fires a bullet five times faster than any other rifle and the terrible 9mm pistol which will blow the lung right out of a body (according to firearms expert Joe Biden).

Biden bungled talking point on AR-15’s muzzle velocity

In a speech in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., President Joe Biden stated that a round from an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle travels five times faster than any other gun. Biden was clearly wrong in his statement.

www.stripes.com

In gaffe, Biden claims 9mm bullet ‘blows the lung out of the body’

President Biden took aim Monday at one of the most common types of firearms owned by Americans in what appeared to be a gun-related technical flub.

www.washingtontimes.com

Perhaps if the Republicans gain control of Congress after the Midterms and get some some cojones for a change, they will question Ray Epps in their own Jan 6th hearings.

If they do have such hearings I wonder if they should not allow Democrats on the committees just DINOs. Boy if that happens, the Democrats will be running around crying and screaming how unfair it is to be treated like they treated Republicans.

 

[Faun]

'I really thought that I was going to die.' Members of Congress remember Jan. 6

During the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, six Congress members from California hid, fled or watched as a pro-Trump mob attacked. They look back and discuss what's changed.

www.latimes.com

Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection a year later: Congress members reveal details of their escape

The USA TODAY Network's Atlantic Group spoke to eight Congress members from the region about their experiences the day protesters stormed the Capitol.

www.lohud.com

I was in the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. Here’s what I saw during the attack.

“Shots fired in the Capitol! Get down!” Congressman Tom Suozzi offers a first-person account what happened in the chamber of the U.S. House as armed rioters stormed the building.

www.americamagazine.org

Your links agree with me that the House chamber was still not fully evacuated.

“All I could think of is: Get out. Run. As fast as you can. You don’t want to be trapped in here. Run, run, run,” Gomez recalled. “And all of a sudden, they closed the doors on us and they told us to get on the ground. There’s people trying to break in outside the doors.”

“So everyone kind of got down low. And that was a little bit of a sobering moment. Then at one point, we heard an explosion. It sounded like a gunshot or a tear gas deployment. We didn’t know. I think it might’ve been the shot that killed my constituent. Ashli Babbitt was from San Diego.”

And there's nothing in any of your links about a loud bang caused by a flag pole. You just made that up because you can't deal with what actually happened.

Like I said, if truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.​

 

[Faun]

Really Lesh? Could you see him through those doors before the shot was fired? You couldn't because he was out of sight to the left of the doors. My question at that point is why did he feel compelled to execute someone THEN? Why did he decide to jump out and shoot an unarmed person at point blank range? Inside the House Chamber everyone had been evacuated except for a group of 20 that had been up in the Gallery and they were in the process of being led out when the shot was fired. So what was his rationale for shooting Ashli Babbitt? To "save" members of Congress? How so? They were already gone or were part of a small group that were about to be gone! So why pull the trigger THEN?

LOL

So you finally admit there were still so.e lawmakers & staff still holed up inside the House chamber when Ashes Targetpractice committed suicide by cop.

That was a justifiable shoot to protect the lives of lawmakers.

 

[Lesh]

Really Lesh? Could you see him through those doors before the shot was fired? You couldn't because he was out of sight to the left of the doors. My question at that point is why did he feel compelled to execute someone THEN? Why did he decide to jump out and shoot an unarmed person at point blank range? Inside the House Chamber everyone had been evacuated except for a group of 20 that had been up in the Gallery and they were in the process of being led out when the shot was fired. So what was his rationale for shooting Ashli Babbitt? To "save" members of Congress? How so? They were already gone or were part of a small group that were about to be gone! So why pull the trigger THEN?

Hey dumfuk, the camera was on the left and Byrd was also on the left with a wall between them. The gun and hand are visible even at that. And people were yelling “gun, gun”

You dishonest piece of shit

 

[Oldestyle]

You're lying again. Sad how you can't stop. The audio from the videos is anything but definitive. It's mostly yelling and screaming and banging on the doors. With Byrd on the other side, it's not possible to rule out his claim that he issued warnings as you can't tell since much of the yelling is undiscernable.

Now had Byrd been the only one to claim he warned the mob to "get back," I would agree with you that there's insufficient evidence to accept him at his word. But that's not the case. Someone from that mob claimed he heard the warnings. And given he recalled hearing the same exact warning, "get back," it confirms Byrd was telling the truth.

And as I've highlighted repeatedly... you have absolutely no lucid explanation for Baranyi could have heard the exact same words Byrd used unless he heard them, as he claimed.

When did Byrd make that claim? Weeks after the shooting? When he'd had time to realize that he'd overreacted, was the only Police officer who used deadly force and needed to make himself look more reasonable?
Again...it's been proven over and over again that eye witness accounts are seldom as accurate as video or audio evidence. They simply aren't. People convince themselves that they saw or heard something that video evidence proves never happened.

 

[Correll]

You mean this statement where he denied Antifa even exists?

"I don't know where you get, there's an organization named Antifa."​

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Actually, yes. That is just the type of lying you would expect from a leftard operative.