Doge reduced warning and response time for the Texas flood.

[MagicMike]

It doesn’t get much dumber than that.

Your clueless opinion is noted.

 

[dudmuck]

Simply by signing a disaster declaration he has done more than people like you care to do.

Disaster declarations release billions of dollars in money, resources, and personnel to the affected area.

Sure, go with 'thoughts and prayers.'

 

[MagicMike]

That part of Texas is liberal, dumbass.

As usual Nostril you know not of what you speak.
It must be exhausting for you to keep trying and failing on such a consistent basis.
Sucks to be you huh?

The Texas Counties: From Most Liberal to Most Conservative | Baker Institute

Using data from University of Texas/Texas Tribune polls of registered Texas voters, political science fellow Mark Jones ranked 20 counties in the Lone Star State from most liberal to most conservative. Travis County, home to Austin, is by far the state's most liberal county; Brazoria County is...

www.bakerinstitute.org

 

[Captain Caveman]

Doge taking a chain saw to our weather monitoring and warning systems and to FEMA has made the tragedy of the Texas flood even worse than it had to be. Those agencies were in place for a reason, and should have never been degraded by someone who didn't even understand why we need those agencies.


Yes, it's quite possible that victims of the recent Texas flood could have received earlier or more effective warnings if not for cuts and policy shifts tied to the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and former President Donald Trump's administration.


What Happened in Texas?


On July 4, 2025, catastrophic flash flooding struck areas along the Guadalupe River, leading to fatalities and widespread emergency rescues. Local authorities issued urgent warnings, but the scale and speed of the flooding overwhelmed many systems.


How DOGE and Trump’s Policies May Have Affected This


According to investigative reporting from the Texas Observer and San Antonio Current, the Trump administration’s DOGE initiative significantly impacted federal disaster preparedness and response:

• FEMA Cuts: DOGE slashed FEMA’s workforce by about 20% and froze parts of its funding.
• Disaster Aid Shift: Trump announced plans to phase out FEMA and shift disaster response responsibilities to individual states, arguing governors should handle emergencies independently.
• Climate Risk Data Degradation: DOGE reportedly dismantled or degraded federal resources that track and model climate-augmented weather risks, such as flood forecasting and early warning systems.
• Infrastructure Investment Delays: Federal support for flood prevention projects—like levees and drainage upgrades—was reduced or delayed, leaving vulnerable areas more exposed.

Could Earlier Warnings Have Been Possible?


While local agencies like the Harris County Flood Control District did issue warnings, the broader federal infrastructure that supports early detection, modeling, and communication of extreme weather risks may have been weakened. This could have:

• Reduced the lead time for warnings
• Limited the accuracy of flood forecasts
• Slowed coordination between federal and local responders

So while it's speculative to say definitively that lives would have been saved, the evidence strongly suggests that federal cuts and policy shifts under DOGE and Trump made Texas—and its residents—more vulnerable to disasters like this one.

Trump’s DOGE Cuts Are a Texas-Sized Disaster

Reckless agency layoffs and the dismantling of federal relief programs could leave the Lone Star State in peril.

go.skimresources.com

NBC - there was no difference in reporting the weather -

National Weather Service defends its flood warnings amid fresh scrutiny of Trump staff cuts

Experts said warnings issued in the run-up to this weekend’s flooding were as timely and accurate as possible, but questions about whether the alerts reached people most at risk remain.

www.nbcnews.com

Independent meteorologists and a former NWS official said warnings issued in the run-up to the flooding were about as timely and accurate as could be expected with the weather data available in real time.

 

[BULLDOG]

No. I’m saying they didn’t happen because of DOGE or Trump, dumb-ass

So you agree the once in 100 years claim is bullshit.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I don't usually read Fox News, what's the point? But I thought, what's their response to the floods in Texas?

Would they be doing everything the could to control the narrative in favor of Trump and Abbott or would it be trying to be objective?

Well, sees like it's the former. Let's look

Texas flooding search and rescue: July 6, 2025

Devastating floods across central Texas have killed at least 80 people and left 41 unaccounted for after a storm pounded the region. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott issued a proclamation declaring Sunday as a day of prayer across the state in response to the flooding. President Donald Trump said he would...

www.foxnews.com

"DHS says mainstream media is 'deliberately lying' about events leading up to Texas flooding"

Ah, so the "mainstream media" (clearly doesn't include Fox "News" in this) is "lying" because.... they're not following the official narrative.

There's a tweet, or whatever they're called these days, from Homeland Security.

"The mainstream media is deliberately lying about the events leading up to the catastrophic flooding in Texas. The National Weather Service executed timely, precise forecasting and warnings, despite unprecedented rainfall overwhelming the region. Here is the timeline of NWS’s proactive response:"

In the text below this on Fox "News" it says:

""The National Weather Service executed timely, precise forecasting and warnings, despite unprecedented rainfall overwhelming the region," it continued."

Now, the issue here isn't whether the NWS issued timely, precise forecasting and warnings, it's whether ANYTHING WAS DONE WITH THESE WARNINGS. Obviously Fox "News" doesn't mention this.

Then they have "Mississippi governor prays ", yeah, that'll solve the problem.

Then a thing about Tim Walz saying he'll offer assistance.

Then you have "Alabama governor prays ", which I assume won't help either.

You also have "White House Faith Office prays"

They have a quote from Trump: "“And it's a horrible thing that took place. Absolutely horrible. So we say, God bless all of the people that have gone through so much, and God bless the state of Texas. This incredible place,” he continued."

Basically saying that Mr "I do the best floods in history" God should bless all the people.... I'm sure that'll help too.

Then you have "Former presidents share prayers"

I can basically find NOTHING that talks about what went wrong in the first place. It's just talking about God and prayer and criticizing the left wing for talking about what went wrong in the first place.

I wonder why Fox "News" doesn't want to report about what went wrong in the first place.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I posted this on another thread.
Relevant here too.....

Grok Is Blaming Musk and Trump for Texas Flooding Deaths​

The Daily Beast
https://www.thedailybeast.com › elon-musks-ai-robot-bla...

17 hours ago — “Trump's NOAA cuts impaired flood warnings, contributing to deaths,” Grok wrote. “Facts aren't woke; they're just facts.” ...

Elon Musk’s AI tool Grok, which was built to reduce the spread of misinformation on the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, is pointing the finger squarely at its own creator, and the administration he once worked for, for the loss of life during this week’s terrible flooding in Texas.

“Trump’s NOAA cuts, pushed by Musk’s DOGE, slashed funding 30% and staff 17%, underestimating rainfall by 50% and delaying alerts,” the AI bot replied to a user asking who is responsible for the fate of the 27 young girls who are still missing in floodwaters at Camp Mystic.

“This contributed to the floods killing 27, including ~20 Camp Mystic girls. Facts over feelings,” Grok continued.

 

[Mack The Finger]

I can basically find NOTHING that talks about what went wrong in the first place.

Is that some kind of sick joke ?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Is that some kind of sick joke ?

You have anything from Fox "News" that talks about what led to this? Other than "it rained"?

 

[scruffy]

Is that some kind of sick joke ?

Democrats are weird people.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I posted this on another thread.
Relevant here too.....

Grok Is Blaming Musk and Trump for Texas Flooding Deaths​

View attachment 1133282
The Daily Beast
https://www.thedailybeast.com › elon-musks-ai-robot-bla...
17 hours ago — “Trump's NOAA cuts impaired flood warnings, contributing to deaths,” Grok wrote. “Facts aren't woke; they're just facts.” ...

Elon Musk’s AI tool Grok, which was built to reduce the spread of misinformation on the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, is pointing the finger squarely at its own creator, and the administration he once worked for, for the loss of life during this week’s terrible flooding in Texas.

“Trump’s NOAA cuts, pushed by Musk’s DOGE, slashed funding 30% and staff 17%, underestimating rainfall by 50% and delaying alerts,” the AI bot replied to a user asking who is responsible for the fate of the 27 young girls who are still missing in floodwaters at Camp Mystic.

“This contributed to the floods killing 27, including ~20 Camp Mystic girls. Facts over feelings,” Grok continued.

I had a little look, the chairman of the daily beast helped found Fox News, but has nothing to do with them now (at least in terms of jobs), I wonder why this sort of thing got posted.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Democrats are weird people.

Just remember, if you can't participate in a topic, just insult people or attack them.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

I don't usually read Fox News, what's the point? But I thought, what's their response to the floods in Texas?

Would they be doing everything the could to control the narrative in favor of Trump and Abbott or would it be trying to be objective?

Well, sees like it's the former. Let's look

Texas flooding search and rescue: July 6, 2025

Devastating floods across central Texas have killed at least 80 people and left 41 unaccounted for after a storm pounded the region. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott issued a proclamation declaring Sunday as a day of prayer across the state in response to the flooding. President Donald Trump said he would...

www.foxnews.com

"DHS says mainstream media is 'deliberately lying' about events leading up to Texas flooding"

Ah, so the "mainstream media" (clearly doesn't include Fox "News" in this) is "lying" because.... they're not following the official narrative.

There's a tweet, or whatever they're called these days, from Homeland Security.

"The mainstream media is deliberately lying about the events leading up to the catastrophic flooding in Texas. The National Weather Service executed timely, precise forecasting and warnings, despite unprecedented rainfall overwhelming the region. Here is the timeline of NWS’s proactive response:"

In the text below this on Fox "News" it says:

""The National Weather Service executed timely, precise forecasting and warnings, despite unprecedented rainfall overwhelming the region," it continued."

Now, the issue here isn't whether the NWS issued timely, precise forecasting and warnings, it's whether ANYTHING WAS DONE WITH THESE WARNINGS. Obviously Fox "News" doesn't mention this.

Then they have "Mississippi governor prays ", yeah, that'll solve the problem.

Then a thing about Tim Walz saying he'll offer assistance.

Then you have "Alabama governor prays ", which I assume won't help either.

You also have "White House Faith Office prays"

They have a quote from Trump: "“And it's a horrible thing that took place. Absolutely horrible. So we say, God bless all of the people that have gone through so much, and God bless the state of Texas. This incredible place,” he continued."

Basically saying that Mr "I do the best floods in history" God should bless all the people.... I'm sure that'll help too.

Then you have "Former presidents share prayers"

I can basically find NOTHING that talks about what went wrong in the first place. It's just talking about God and prayer and criticizing the left wing for talking about what went wrong in the first place.

I wonder why Fox "News" doesn't want to report about what went wrong in the first place.

What went wrong ? It was an act of nature and there was the usual prior warnings.

Meanwhile this is what someone on the left is saying about the event.

"But Camp Mystic is a Whites-only girls Christian camp," Perkins continued. "They don't even have a token Asian, they don't have a Token Black person, it is a all White, White-only conservative Christian camp."

 

[scruffy]

Just remember, if you can't participate in a topic, just insult people or attack them.

Oh. You mean like the Summer of Love.

And Hillary Clinton's deplorables.

Democrats deserve to be insulted. Biggest bunch of misfits anywhere in the world.

 

[August West]

Just remember, if you can't participate in a topic, just insult people or attack them.

Or they scream TDS!

 

[frigidweirdo]

What went wrong ? It was an act of nature and there was the usual prior warnings.

Meanwhile this is what someone on the left is saying about the event.

"But Camp Mystic is a Whites-only girls Christian camp," Perkins continued. "They don't even have a token Asian, they don't have a Token Black person, it is a all White, White-only conservative Christian camp."

Let's try this.

Last year my company decided to go rafting. The place was just near the bottom of the mountains, the rivers are all going down valleys. We get heavy rain in the summer, and it can cause flash floods. So, instead of rafting, because it was cold and I didn't want to sit on a raft in the middle of the river even if it wasn't cold, I went walking around the area. And I walked through this little tourist village that was being demolished. Why? Because they wanted to reduce the risk of flash floods killing people.
It happens here, I think maybe the year before, maybe last year, I can't remember, there was a big flash flood and people died.

Also, about 4 years ago there was a huge flood where my other half's parents live. They literally live on the flood plain, not only were warnings issued, but people turned up to tell people to get the hell out of there. Nobody died there and it was a HUGE flood. Literally people's houses got destroyed.

Here's what I'd be thinking would happen.

Weather warning at 1pm the day before.

National Weather Service shares timeline of alerts ahead of catastrophic Texas flooding

NWS says Flash Flood Warnings were issued on July 3 and early July 4 in Central Texas, giving more than three hours of warning.

www.nbcdfw.com

"The NWS said that on the morning of July 3, the office in Austin/San Antonio held forecast briefings for emergency management and issued a Flood Watch that afternoon."

So, if you've already got a weather warning out, what are people doing about it? What's going on on the ground?

" The NWS said Flash Flood Warnings were issued on the night of July 3 and in the early morning of July 4, "giving preliminary lead times of more than three hours before warning criteria were met.""

So, 1pm there's a weather warning, 6:11pm there's a weather warning talking about flash flooding. 6:20pm there's a weather warning for an area including Kerrville. A weather warning was issued at 11pm for Bandera county, just sound of Kerrville. At 1am there was another for Kerrville and Bandera.

And the WHOLE TIME this was happening, NOBODY, not a single person, was seemingly in charge of getting the message to camp sites along the river. Can you imagine that?

In an age of instant communication, smart phones with data, nobody managed to contact people and say "hey, er... you might want to get out of there."

There didn't seem to be any emergency management in place at all. Why?

July 2025 Central Texas floods - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Prior to the floods, Kerr County lacked a flood warning system. A system including sirens was advocated for in 2016 by the then Kerr County sheriff. Discussions about funding and constructing a system continued on and off until at least 2021. The current Kerr County Judge said that the lack of a warning system was due to the cost to pay for the system and claimed that local residents were resistant to the idea due to the cost."

Oh, the locals didn't want to pay for it. The state didn't want to pay for it. The feds didn't want to pay for it. Nobody wanted to pay for it, because, HEY IT'S TEXAS, we don't pay for not goord damn weather system, ain't no climate change here.

Even if there weren't climate change....

"The Guadalupe River, along with surrounding rivers in the region have flooded multiple times in recent decades, often with deadly consequences. This includes flooding in July 1987 that killed 10, flooding in October 1998 that killed 31, flooding in May 2015 on the nearby Blanco River that killed 13, and flooding just 3 weeks earlier in nearby San Antonio that killed 13."

I mean.... how ******* stupid do people have to be?

This was SO AVOIDABLE it's embarrassing.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Or they scream TDS!

Yeah, I screamed KDS (Kamala Deforkation Sporkles or sumfink) at someone and they attacked me with "Always a wild card in lib speak huh?", as if they couldn't figure out why anyone would attack someone like that. Obviously I was doing just to be funny.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Oh. You mean like the Summer of Love.

And Hillary Clinton's deplorables.

Democrats deserve to be insulted. Biggest bunch of misfits anywhere in the world.

No wonder your stupid ass is on the ignore list.

 

[Nobody911]

It seems that the leaders in Texas were not wise enough to take good care of their people. This reminded me of wildfires in California. Well, what can you expect from American politicians? Amen!**

The current flooding situation in Texas, particularly in Central Texas and the Texas Hill Country, is severe and deadly. As of early July 2025, catastrophic flash floods have killed at least 80 people, including many children, with dozens more missing. The Guadalupe River rose dramatically—26 feet in just 45 minutes—causing widespread destruction and prompting emergency evacuations in Kerr County and surrounding areas268.

This recent flooding was driven by an intense and unusually slow-moving tropical storm system that lingered over the region, creating what meteorologists described as a "rain bomb" directly overhead, leading to extraordinarily heavy rainfall over a short period3. For example, some areas received the equivalent of several months' worth of rain in just hours27.

Texas has a long history of significant flooding events, especially in Central Texas along rivers like the Guadalupe, Medina, and San Antonio Rivers. Notable past floods include:

• The 1921 Thrall flood, which remains the deadliest in Texas history with 215 deaths and record-breaking rainfall of nearly 40 inches in 36 hours1.

• The 1987 flash flood in Comfort, where 10 teens died at a summer camp3.

• The 1998 floods that caused 12 fatalities and over $1 billion in damages, with record flows on several rivers and emergency spillways being overtopped1.

• Other major floods include those in 2002, 2007, 2015, and the devastating Hurricane Harvey floods in 2017 5.

Despite frequent flooding, Texas has made efforts to mitigate flood impacts, such as constructing flood-retention dams like the Olmos Dam after the 1921 floods1. However, the recent 2025 floods highlight ongoing challenges in preparedness and warning systems. While the National Weather Service issued watches and warnings days in advance and flood alerts were sent out, local officials faced criticism for not issuing evacuation orders sooner and for gaps in warning systems in some counties24.

In terms of trends, flooding in Texas appears to be increasing in frequency and intensity, partly due to climate factors that cause more extreme rainfall events. The 2025 floods, described as a "rain bomb," illustrate how weather patterns are becoming more prone to producing sudden, intense floods3. This suggests a negative trend in flood risk, with more lives and properties at risk unless mitigation and emergency response systems are significantly improved.

Summary:

Texas is currently experiencing catastrophic flash flooding with at least 80 deaths in 2025.

The region has a long history of deadly floods, including the record-setting 1921 Thrall flood.

Flooding severity is increasing, with recent events showing extreme rainfall and rapid river rises.

Warning systems exist but have faced scrutiny for gaps in communication and evacuation orders.

Overall, the trend points toward more frequent and severe flooding challenges in Texas1234568.

Edit:

• Texas state leaders predominantly reject or downplay climate change science and mitigation policies, driven by political ideology and fossil fuel interests.

• The state government has no comprehensive climate plan and blocks many local climate initiatives.

• Some local governments are more proactive on climate but face state-level opposition.

• Texas continues to expand renewable energy but within a political context that strongly supports fossil fuels( lobbying ).

This stance contributes to inadequate preparation for climate-driven extreme weather events, such as the recent catastrophic floods.

sources:

1. Flooding in Texas
2. Timeline of National Weather alerts in deadly Texas flash flooding
3. What is flash flood alley and what do Texans in its path face?
4. Why flash floods are the nation's top storm-related cause of death
5. Texas flooding - Wikipedia
6. Death toll climbs to 81 as flood-ravaged Texas faces more rain; Trump plans visit: Updates
7. Texas flooding timeline: How rapidly rising waters killed dozens
8. Live updates: At least 81 dead as search efforts intensify after Texas floods
9. Texas Flood
10.

 

[scruffy]

No wonder your stupid ass is on the ignore list.

20% approval. Says it all.



Democrats are hypocrites. For all their violent protesting they can't even oust their own corrupt leadership.

20% approval means 60% of the Democrats disapprove of their own party. And yet they can't make the needed changes. The leadership installs candidates without a vote and no one complains, but meanwhile they're sniveling about Trump destroying democracy.

Democrats should do the honorable thing and fall on their swords.