Zone1 Does your religion follow the Nicene Creed?

[Zebra]

Orthodox Christians recite the Nicene Creed every Sunday and on all feast days.

"Catholic" in the sense of the Creed is from the Greek word "katholikos" which means "all encompassing" or "universal".

Anglicans use the same wording

German protestants use the word for general .... also a meaning of katholikos

 

[ding]

Anglicans use the same wording

German protestants use the word for general .... also a meaning of katholikos

There's a lot of dislike for the Catholic faith and Catholics in general. In my opinion it's entirely illogical.

 

[Zebra]

There's a lot of dislike for the Catholic faith and Catholics in general. In my opinion it's entirely illogical.

the very word catholic seems to be hated by some

 

[Zebra]

Protestants use a translation of the word catholic ... same meaning

 

[Zebra]

the Creed is from the years 325 to 451, when there was still unity

 

[Carl in Michigan]

After I looked up the creed, I checked our belief. We believe in all entities the same as Catholics but separate the 3 into their individual entities. GOD himself is not Jesus. GOD himself is not who was murdered by Romans.

I don't agree with that. Neither do I believe in the trinity.
I follow Jesus, not the traditions of men

 

[ding]

I don't agree with that. Neither do I believe in the trinity.
I follow Jesus, not the traditions of men

I bet the church you attend believes in the Trinity.

 

[Robert W]

I don't agree with that. Neither do I believe in the trinity.
I follow Jesus, not the traditions of men

Freedom used is not wasted.

 

[Robert W]

Not now. Always. Jesus IS fully human and fully God.

If you study the evidence (texts and traditions of the first Christians) at first they didn't know who Jesus was. After he was crucified they worshiped Jesus as God. It was much later that they came to understand he was fully God and fully human.

Mormons believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, but they do not consider Him to be God the Father. Instead, they recognize Him as a distinct being within the Godhead, which consists of God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. This understanding differs significantly from traditional Christian views, which typically hold that God is one essence in three persons. Mormons believe that Jesus Christ was born of a virgin and is central to their faith, providing salvation through His Atonement and resurrection.
Wikipedia+2

 

[DGS49]

Mormons believe that they, themselves can become "gods" after they die. They believe that the personage whom Christans refer to as "God" was once a man.

The fact that they pretend to be "Christians" is a religious abomination. Believe whatever you want, but don't claim to be Christians. You are not.

 

[Robert W]

Mormons believe that they, themselves can become "gods" after they die. They believe that the personage whom Christans refer to as "God" was once a man.

The fact that they pretend to be "Christians" is a religious abomination. Believe whatever you want, but don't claim to be Christians. You are not.

Would GOD have Jesus show up in Israel and then ban him and humans from later achieving the level GOD has. YES, we do believe after dying, GOD can promote us to his level.
That does not hint we do not also believe in Jesus as our savior. We honor him even in the title of our church. We have no clue why you think we are not Christians.

 

[DGS49]

Would GOD have Jesus show up in Israel and then ban him and humans from later achieving the level GOD has. YES, we do believe after dying, GOD can promote us to his level.
That does not hint we do not also believe in Jesus as our savior. We honor him even in the title of our church. We have no clue why you think we are not Christians.

Nicene Creed defines Christians. Mormons believe basically none of it. Call yourselves whatever you want, but the name "Christians" is already taken.

 

[Robert W]

Nicene Creed defines Christians. Mormons believe basically none of it. Call yourselves whatever you want, but the name "Christians" is already taken.

Sure, you think only Catholics are Christians, but you simply do not understand what creates Christians.


The doctrine of Christ allows us to access the spiritual power that will lift us from our current spiritual state to a state where we can become perfected.

Jesus’s visit to the Nephites after His Resurrection was carefully organized to teach us the things of greatest importance. It began with the Father testifying to the people that Jesus was His “Beloved Son, in whom [He was] well pleased.”1 Then Jesus Himself descended and testified of His atoning sacrifice,2 inviting the people to “know of a surety” that He was the Christ by coming forth and feeling the wound mark in His side and the prints of the nails in His hands and feet.3 These testimonies established without doubt that Jesus’s Atonement was complete and that the Father had fulfilled His covenant to provide a Savior. Jesus then taught the Nephites how to obtain all the blessings of the Father’s plan of happiness, which are made available to us because of the Savior’s Atonement, by teaching them the doctrine of Christ.4

My message today focuses on the doctrine of Christ. The scriptures define the doctrine of Christ as exercising faith in Jesus Christ and His Atonement, repenting, being baptized, receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost, and enduring to the end.5

The Doctrine of Christ Allows Us to Obtain the Blessings of Christ’s Atonement​

The Atonement of Christ creates the conditions upon which we may rely upon “the merits, and mercy, and grace of the Holy Messiah,”6 “be perfected in [Christ],”7 obtain every good thing,8 and gain eternal life.9

 

[onefour1]

Mormons believe that they, themselves can become "gods" after they die. They believe that the personage whom Christans refer to as "God" was once a man.

The fact that they pretend to be "Christians" is a religious abomination. Believe whatever you want, but don't claim to be Christians. You are not.

Jesus taught the following:

Psalms 82:6
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

John 10:32-36
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Matthew 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Do you consider Jesus himself to not be Christian because he taught that WE are gods?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Nicene Creed defines Christians

The SCRIPTURES define who a Christian is

If anyone has not the Spirit of Christ he is none of His

 

[eagle7-31]

i think most Christian religions do.

And my Catholic religion as well.

I am a member of WELS (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod) and we recite this at every Sunday service. Lutheran being described as Catholic lite.

 

[Zebra]

I am a member of WELS (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod) and we recite this at every Sunday service. Lutheran being described as Catholic lite.

as i said, this creed is not only for Catholics, as some think.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

as i said, this creed is not only for Catholics, as some think.

Yeah it is. Those who recite this stuff will easily fold and return to their mother when a little pressure is applied. ALL will be tested.

 

[Robert W]

as i said, this creed is not only for Catholics, as some think.

It is a dishonest creed. Jesus would have spoken of this as truth were it true.

 

[Zebra]

It is a dishonest creed. Jesus would have spoken of this as truth were it true.

dishonest?
no!