Does it seem like when America/Americans win the left feels like they lose?

[BrokeLoser]

18 states are already poised to file suit against the Trump administration for ending birthright citizenship. How do Americans win when invaders are permitted to run baby factories on our soil that taxpayers are forced to fund?

22 states sue to stop Trump’s order blocking birthright citizenship

Attorneys general from 22 states have sued to block Trump’s move to end a century-old immigration policy known as birthright citizenship.

www.fox19.com

 

[White 6]

18 states are already poised to file suit against the Trump administration for ending birthright citizenship. How do Americans win when invaders are permitted to run baby factories on our soil that taxpayers are forced to fund?

22 states sue to stop Trump’s order blocking birthright citizenship

Attorneys general from 22 states have sued to block Trump’s move to end a century-old immigration policy known as birthright citizenship.

www.fox19.com

I have no problem with that executive order. Most nations do not observe purely birthright citizenship. For example, countries like Germany and France offer citizenship to children born on their soil only if their parents meet certain residency or legal status requirements.

Countries that Grant Birthright Citizenship as Trump Signs Executive Order

The White House signaled plans for executive orders, including ending birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants.

www.newsweek.com

 

[IM2]

Americans don't win with this.

Every non native American here is a birthright citizen.

 

[TNHarley]

I have no problem with that executive order.

Not surprising. You dont seem to mind when the govt abuses its authority as long as you agree with what is being done.

 

[initforme]

I'm american born to american citizens...can legal citizens be deported?

 

[TNHarley]

Americans don't win with this.

Every non native American here is a birthright citizen.

Im a native american. Just like you are.

 

[martybegan]

I have no problem with that executive order. Most nations do not observe purely birthright citizenship. For example, countries like Germany and France offer citizenship to children born on their soil only if their parents meet certain residency or legal status requirements.

Countries that Grant Birthright Citizenship as Trump Signs Executive Order

The White House signaled plans for executive orders, including ending birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants.

www.newsweek.com

The last big supreme court case on this was back in the late 1890's. At that point illegal immigration as we know it now wasn't a thing.

This is going to have to be sorted out by the Courts, and if we don't get what we want, Amendment time.

 

[martybegan]

Americans don't win with this.

Every non native American here is a birthright citizen.

They came over here as well, just earlier and from the other direction.

 

[TNHarley]

Well, BL, I dont remember the executive having the authority to change the legalize of interpreted amendments. Thats why he is getting sued. Abuse of power.
Sure, I want this to end, but in the right way. Not an authoritarian way.
But im keeping it in my mind this is only to bring it to the SC to get a new "interpretation" And even if, there has to be better ways to do it? IDK

 

[ColonelAngus]

 

[martybegan]

Well, BL, I dont remember the executive having the authority to change the legalize of interpreted amendments. Thats why he is getting sued. Abuse of power.
Sure, I want this to end, but in the right way. Not an authoritarian way.
But im keeping it in my mind this is only to bring it to the SC to get a new "interpretation" And even if, there has to be better ways to do it? IDK

The better way is amending the constitution to limit birthright citizenship to children of citizens, and maybe legal residents.

 

[White 6]

The last big supreme court case on this was back in the late 1890's. At that point illegal immigration as we know it now wasn't a thing.

This is going to have to be sorted out by the Courts, and if we don't get what we want, Amendment time.

What is it, you think you want, and why?

 

[martybegan]

What is it, you think you want, and why?

As an amendment?

Limit birthright citizenship to the children of citizens and maybe legal residents.

 

[TNHarley]

The better way is amending the constitution to limit birthright citizenship to children of citizens, and maybe legal residents.

Well, yeah. But I mean for the SC to look at it. You cant just challenge it, I dont think.

 

[martybegan]

Well, yeah. But I mean for the SC to look at it. You cant just challenge it, I dont think.

Well a bunch of blue State AG's are about to set off the challenges. So here we go.

 

[White 6]

As an amendment?

Limit birthright citizenship to the children of citizens and maybe legal residents.

This is quicker. The job done immediately. But, feel free to write your congressman, suggesting an Amendment, needing 3/4 of both houses and 2/3 of the states to sign off on it.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

They came over here as well, just earlier and from the other direction.

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There is no such thing as a "native American".


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[DonGlock26]

18 states are already poised to file suit against the Trump administration for ending birthright citizenship. How do Americans win when invaders are permitted to run baby factories on our soil that taxpayers are forced to fund?

22 states sue to stop Trump’s order blocking birthright citizenship

Attorneys general from 22 states have sued to block Trump’s move to end a century-old immigration policy known as birthright citizenship.

www.fox19.com

The Left HATES America and Western Civilization. They have been indoctrinated to believe the Cultural Marxist belief that the West deserves to be destroyed because of past colonialism. The Left's cultists think they will create a utopia on Earth from the ashes.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Well, BL, I dont remember the executive having the authority to change the legalize of interpreted amendments. Thats why he is getting sued. Abuse of power.
Sure, I want this to end, but in the right way. Not an authoritarian way.
But im keeping it in my mind this is only to bring it to the SC to get a new "interpretation" And even if, there has to be better ways to do it? IDK

There is no abuse of power when the EO clearly benefits real Americans….no legit American would/could see it as an abuse of power anyway.
Like me, obviously the Trump team believes the 14th has been grossly misinterpreted and like you said this is a surefire way to get the case in front of SCOTUS.
How cool would it be to a get a retroactive ruling and send home ALL anchor babies going way back.
I’m not sure this is a case Libs want to pursue, they should probably let the EO stand without resistance.

 

[TNHarley]

There is no abuse of power when the EO clearly benefits real Americans….no legit American would/could see it as an abuse of power anyway.
Like me, obviously the Trump team believes the 14th has been grossly misinterpreted and like you said this is a surefire way to get the case in front of SCOTUS.
How cool would it be to a get a retroactive ruling and send home ALL anchor babies going way back.
I’m not sure this is a case Libs want to pursue, they should probably let the EO stand without resistance.

So opinions on a certain thing determine whether the govt is abusing their powers or not? Not what power they actually have lolz