Do You Use an AI?

[JohnDB]

Have you used an AI to accomplish a task?

If so, which one do you use?

Do you understand the parameters surrounding the answers it gives?

Did you use the information provided to assist you in making your decision?

Have you used one of the prompts published to ask your questions?

I've been testing the various AI's to find equipment, what equipment exists, what options I might need and materials that might be better.

I can tell you that without a doubt....Google AI (essentially Chat GPT) is as corrupt as they come. Completely controlled by advertising $$$. DO NOT TRUST IT.

Perplexity seems Ok....it gives citations...especially when citations matter.

Grok....relies a LOT on opinion instead of facts....it's always the "internet Social Media" answer.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I use AI constantly. Every day. I use AI (Night Cafe, Photo Studio) to develop subjects for my painting. I use AI (Sudowrite) for my writing.

 

[Maxdeath]

Do not use it and probably never will. It depends too much on what was programmed into it. What it picks up on the internet or what ever, which maybe slanted in some way. As far as I can tell it misses common sense and the real ability to reason. That being said if I look up something on the internet and there is an AI answer I may peruse it then continue with my own search.

 

[petro]

Can it trim a doorway, set roof trusses or hang cabinets?
I see no use for it since it is still human driven and programmed.
It's still just software.

 

[JohnDB]

Can it trim a doorway, set roof trusses or hang cabinets?
I see no use for it since it is still human driven and programmed.
It's still just software.

It might be of use and you didn't realize it.

Newer cabinet materials are coming online that were developed by AI. Wood that is every bit as durable and water/oil resistant as steel...but completely a wood finish and lightweight as wood. (It does tend to dull everything but carbide bits and edges)

 

[Eman623]

I use it to help me write code and support emails for my work. It's not my replacement, it's my force multiplier. I'm at least twice as efficient with it as I am without it.

 

[Eman623]

I can tell you that without a doubt....Google AI (essentially Chat GPT) is as corrupt as they come. Completely controlled by advertising $$$. DO NOT TRUST IT.

Perplexity seems Ok....it gives citations...especially when citations matter.

Grok....relies a LOT on opinion instead of facts....it's always the "internet Social Media" answer.

ChatGPT is not Google's AI. Gemini is Google's AI.

I created my own offline tech support LLM for work. I fed in about 6000 emails I've written over the years and use it to help answer new questions. I still need to check its answers for accuracy before passing them along.

Don't trust any AI engine. They hallucinate. There was a legal case where the lawyer used AI without checking it. It turned our the LLM created entire precedents and prior cases out of whole cloth, citing names and dates that were 100% fictitious. No one knows why LLM hallucinate and some think they will never be able to fully prevent that from happening

 

[there4eyeM]

Whether you know it or not, you are using "a.i.". The question is, are you being used by it?

 

[JohnDB]

ChatGPT is not Google's AI. Gemini is Google's AI.

I created my own offline tech support LLM for work. I fed in about 6000 emails I've written over the years and use it to help answer new questions. I still need to check its answers for accuracy before passing them along.

Don't trust any AI engine. They hallucinate. There was a legal case where the lawyer used AI without checking it. It turned our the LLM created entire precedents and prior cases out of whole cloth, citing names and dates that were 100% fictitious. No one knows why LLM hallucinate and some think they will never be able to fully prevent that from happening

Well, I discovered that Google's AI named Gemini is completely controlled by advertising money. And if a better product exists and for cheaper but spends no advertising dollars with Google....it won't even get mentioned. The other ones will. However, Perplexity tends to not give options of other models which might be better (more expensive) or less versatile (cheaper). It gives one answer and that's the only answer it gives.

Grok gave a plethora of answers....it focused in its answers on why one was better than the others but still listed the others as serious options to consider.

This really stood out when asking about paint sprayers.

I'm not exactly a DIYer or kit builder. I'm a construction worker. (Electricians are top of the food chain in construction) More of a craftsman than just farm hand "handy". And of course than means I can ramp up in proficiency in any task I undertake rather quickly. Just the nature of having a lot of work experience.

I just needed to know what equipment I need, why I need it and how it functions and why. (All painters are drunks/chemically dependant....my experience around them tells me all I need to know)
So since I'm not a functional alcoholic how difficult can it be? (I stayed in a holiday in once, drove by another and watched some YouTube videos....so I'm good right?)

So....
Gemini recommended both Graco and Wagner high efficiency low pressure.

PERPLEXITY recommended Graco Magnum X5

Grok recommended the same Graco Magnum X5 but also mentioned the Pro X19 as premium option I might want to consider depending on other projects I had yet to consider.

Grok in this instance gave the best answer. After further investigation of watching hours of reviews and people using the various models....yeah....the X19 seems to be a good, albeit expensive, choice. (I do have an interior to do as well as the fencing, the barn, and whatever else comes up.) This thing is gonna get used a LOT over the years. So a more expensive model that has easily replaced pumps is ideal.

This is just one tool of several I've asked about. I asked about several I already knew a lot about before going into the unknown. So I'd have a feeling about the answers.

The biggest problem is that AI can't understand sarcasm, dry wit, metaphors, idioms of speech, or humor....not at all. One hyperbole that we don't even think about using and the answers are not going to be good.

 

[there4eyeM]

Well, I discovered that Google's AI named Gemini is completely controlled by advertising money. And if a better product exists and for cheaper but spends no advertising dollars with Google....it won't even get mentioned. The other ones will. However, Perplexity tends to not give options of other models which might be better (more expensive) or less versatile (cheaper). It gives one answer and that's the only answer it gives.

Grok gave a plethora of answers....it focused in its answers on why one was better than the others but still listed the others as serious options to consider.

This really stood out when asking about paint sprayers.

I'm not exactly a DIYer or kit builder. I'm a construction worker. (Electricians are top of the food chain in construction) More of a craftsman than just farm hand "handy". And of course than means I can ramp up in proficiency in any task I undertake rather quickly. Just the nature of having a lot of work experience.

I just needed to know what equipment I need, why I need it and how it functions and why. (All painters are drunks/chemically dependant....my experience around them tells me all I need to know)
So since I'm not a functional alcoholic how difficult can it be? (I stayed in a holiday in once, drove by another and watched some YouTube videos....so I'm good right?)

So....
Gemini recommended both Graco and Wagner high efficiency low pressure.

PERPLEXITY recommended Graco Magnum X5

Grok recommended the same Graco Magnum X5 but also mentioned the Pro X19 as premium option I might want to consider depending on other projects I had yet to consider.

Grok in this instance gave the best answer. After further investigation of watching hours of reviews and people using the various models....yeah....the X19 seems to be a good, albeit expensive, choice. (I do have an interior to do as well as the fencing, the barn, and whatever else comes up.) This thing is gonna get used a LOT over the years. So a more expensive model that has easily replaced pumps is ideal.

This is just one tool of several I've asked about. I asked about several I already knew a lot about before going into the unknown. So I'd have a feeling about the answers.

The biggest problem is that AI can't understand sarcasm, dry wit, metaphors, idioms of speech, or humor....not at all. One hyperbole that we don't even think about using and the answers are not going to be good.

Heavy on the "artificial", light on the "intelligent".

 

[Flopper]

Have you used an AI to accomplish a task?

If so, which one do you use?

Do you understand the parameters surrounding the answers it gives?

Did you use the information provided to assist you in making your decision?

Have you used one of the prompts published to ask your questions?

I've been testing the various AI's to find equipment, what equipment exists, what options I might need and materials that might be better.

I can tell you that without a doubt....Google AI (essentially Chat GPT) is as corrupt as they come. Completely controlled by advertising $$$. DO NOT TRUST IT.

Perplexity seems Ok....it gives citations...especially when citations matter.

Grok....relies a LOT on opinion instead of facts....it's always the "internet Social Media" answer.

I have used AI in grammar checking and suggested changes to text. It definably saves time. Asking an AI to write an article is usually a waste of time.

Biggest problem with AI is when you ask it to solve a problem. Many companies use AI to frontend their customer or technical support. Often they work by answering questions which means they match your question with answers in their database. The purpose of this type of AI is not to solve your problem although it might, but rather to keep you chatting so you never get to any real people. Some companies report that they have been able to reduce the size of their customer support by as much as 80%.

 

[JohnDB]

I have used AI in grammar checking and suggested changes to text. It definably saves time. Asking an AI to write an article is usually a waste of time.

Biggest problem with AI is when you ask it to solve a problem. Many companies use AI to frontend their customer or technical support. Often they work by answering questions which means they match your question with answers in their database. The purpose of this AI is not to solve your problem but to keep you chatting so you never get to any real people that can help you. Some companies report that they have been able to reduce the size of their customer support by as much as 80%.

Yeah....lots of things running around claiming to be an AI but aren't.

Because AI is new, the software hasn't been reproduced....mostly because the Chip Fabs needed are in short supply. (They are building more but Taiwanese people are in short supply too. Can't grow them here because CCP will have a coniption fit if they don't spy (and they wont)

But just think....how much is a copy of Doom computer game worth these days?(freeware at this point)

AI is only valuable due to the databases its built upon and the algorithms driving it.
And soon....it's value will diminish. (Tech is a VERY fleeting empire)

Robots are going to become a new workforce for low skill jobs. All driven by AI.

 

[Flopper]

Do not use it and probably never will. It depends too much on what was programmed into it. What it picks up on the internet or what ever, which maybe slanted in some way. As far as I can tell it misses common sense and the real ability to reason. That being said if I look up something on the internet and there is an AI answer I may peruse it then continue with my own search.

When I ask a question directly to the internet for example, in a google search, I take the answers with a grain of salt. Unless there is a link to a source document, you will likely get an Internet consensus or an answer from some large Internet discussion group such as Reddit.

 

[Maxdeath]

When I ask a question directly to the internet for example, in a google search, I take the answers with a grain of salt. Unless there is a link to a source document, you will likely get an Internet consensus or an answer from some large Internet discussion group such as Reddit.

I usually only go with three or four well documented sources. If they all agree then I figure I am safe. If one shows some off the wall source or documentation then I will look for another source.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[scruffy]

I program AI. I train it to accomplish specific tasks. Without the proper training AI is worthless.

My latest project is a brain-computer interface that reads volitional motor signals from HD-EEG and converts them into specific actions (or commands for actions).

The idea is, you "think about" moving a limb, without actually moving anything. The AI picks up your "intent", and converts it into an action.

It's like a non-invasive version of Neuralink. EEG is noisy and has a very low signal level, that's why we need machine learning to process it.

Training proceeds in three phases:

1. Learning EEG from others
2. Learning EEG from self
3. Reinforcement of actions

The first part uses canned datasets you can download from the internet. The second part requires you to input your own real time EEG into the computer. For the third part you have to work with the AI to tell it when it has a correct or incorrect interpretation.

So far my AI has nearly 90% accuracy in reading volitional motor imagery. The only downside is it takes a long time to train, you have to give it thousands upon thousands of EEG sequences.

 

[JohnDB]

And if it had a payload capability of more than 3kg per arm....I'd buy one to help with painting the house.

 

[fncceo]

Have you used an AI to accomplish a task?

Only in the bedroom...

 

[fncceo]

Without the proper training AI is worthless.

 

[Flopper]

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That depends on what you are asking the AI to do. An AI can do a good job of grammar checking your texts and offering suggested changes to make the document easier to read with little more than a draft to work with. They can also summarize documents and rewrite them to be more formal or more casual. However publishing such document without reading them carefully can be disastrous.

Now if you want an AI to write poetry, songs, or speeches, then you will have educate the AI or just be satisfied with what it produces.

Asking an AI how to fix your computer, will give you a lot of things to investigate. However, supplying all the information the AI would need to determine exactly what is wrong with your computer might well be impracticable.