Zone1 Do you know the childhood Gospel of Jesus?

TNHarley said:
Like how jesus killed a bunch of children?
Like father, like son. :dunno:
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No, but he did break a bunch of Jew's tables and scattered their money all over the floor.

Then there was that time he cussed at a fig bush and made it die. When Jesus says he wants figs, you'd better darned well give him figs.
 
JGalt said:
No, but he did break a bunch of Jew's tables and scattered their money all over the floor.

Then there was that time he cussed at a fig bush and made it die. When Jesus says he wants figs, you'd better darned well give him figs.
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The "ransacking" (Josephus uses that term)of the Temple trade tables was done by the historical figure named
Yehuda the Gaulonite , often confused with Yehuda the Galilean christ a tax revolter who died in 6bc crucified by Rome for his tax revolt. Yehuda the Galilean is 1 of the trinity of christs used to make the Jesus image and legend therefore the Yehuda who robed and vandelized the trade tables made it's way into the Jesus stories either by purposely combining all stories (playgiarism) or via "passing stories down the line" in an era of lacking communications= errors confusing characters with similar names and titles.
Most likely these 2 confused figures was also used for the Jesus Barabbas story.
 
HaShev said:
The "ransacking" (Josephus uses that term)of the Temple trade tables was done by the historical figure named
Yehuda the Gaulonite , often confused with Yehuda the Galilean christ a tax revolter who died in 6bc crucified by Rome for his tax revolt. Yehuda the Galilean is 1 of the trinity of christs used to make the Jesus image and legend therefore the Yehuda who robed and vandelized the trade tables made it's way into the Jesus stories either by purposely combining all stories (playgiarism) or via "passing stories down the line" in an era of lacking communications= errors confusing characters with similar names and titles.
Most likely these 2 confused figures was also used for the Jesus Barabbas story.
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That is not the childhood gospel!
 
Zebra said:
That is not the childhood gospel!
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This was brought up within the topic, it's historical facts based on the historical figures used for the myth.
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Luke mentions him once, in
Acts 5:37, and Josephus several times, once here, sect. 6; and B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2; Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1; and ch. 17. sect. 8, calls this Judas, who was the pestilent author of that seditious doctrine and temper which brought the Jewish nation to utter destruction, a Galilean; but here (sect. 1) Josephus calls him a Gaulonite, of the city of Gamala; it is a great question where this Judas was born, whether in Galilee on the west side, or in Gaulonitis on the east side, of the river Jordan; while, in the place just now cited out of the Antiquities, B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2, he is not only called a Galilean, but it is added to his story, "as I have signified in the books that go before these," as if he had still called him a Galilean in those Antiquities before, as well as in that particular place, as Dean Aldrich observes, Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1
 
Zebra said:
i meant the childhood gospel by Thomas
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Oh I know which one, knew what you referred to on the OP, it was about him at 5 killing a friend, the problem is, which of the many christ figures is the story referring to if not based on the fictional combined character. Thomas was not the only doubter removed from the gospels, there are portions of other texts like Luke removed chapter portion, who concluded that "his christ" was not who they'd hoped him to be, in that he failed to liberate them, in John he writes they all disbanded and scattered dissapointed. Mandeans, a sect of Sabaens claiming to be surviving followers of John the Baptist write that Jesus was the false prophet (everyone originally followed John) ,so they claim he had his friend follower Salome turn him in to be beheaded to steal his followers, they claim Jesus as a wicked false prophet.
You can look them up for what they teach.
 
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HaShev said:
Oh I know which one, knew what you referred to on the OP, it was about him at 5 killing a friend, the problem is, which of the many christ figures is the story referring to if not based on the fictionary combined character. Thomas was not the only doubter removed from the gospels, there are portions of other texts like Luke removed chapter portion, who concluded that "his christ" was not who they'd hoped him to be, in that he never liberated them, in John he writes they all disbanded and scattered dissapointed. Mandeans, a sect of Sabaens claiming to be surviving followers of John the Baptist write that Jesus was the false prophet (everyone originally followed John) ,so they claim he had his friend follower Salome turn him in to be beheaded to steal his followers, they claim Jesus as a wicked false prophet.
You can look them up for what they teach.
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Mandeans .... sounds interesting
 
Zebra said:
Mandeans .... sounds interesting
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I like the fact that their physical light teachings match the NT use of physical light references and analogies, as it helps pinpoint the historical cult and figures to their era and which figure they are calling Jesus.
The Notzrim (i.e. off shoot cult) believed their god was the magical rays of light between the sun and earth, this fits the NT and Mandean use of physical light teachings of reverence, which contradicts the Biblical era like dead sea scrolls teaching Spiritual light being knowledge and truth and is not teaching luciferianism (phosphorus physical light).
 
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The Infancy Gospel of Thomas doesn't cover Jesus' life past the age of twelve, so it's not a gospel, IMO. Jesus didn't deliver the gospel until after he started his ministry.

It also contradicts the canonical gospels. If Jesus performed miracles as a child, then his miracle at the wedding at Cana was not his first (Jn 2:11).
 
norwegen said:
The Infancy Gospel of Thomas doesn't cover Jesus' life past the age of twelve, so it's not a gospel, IMO. Jesus didn't deliver the gospel until after he started his ministry.

It also contradicts the canonical gospels. If Jesus performed miracles as a child, then his miracle at the wedding at Cana was not his first (Jn 2:11).
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that pseudo.gospel does not show Jesus in a good light.
i wonder why it was ever written
 
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