Do you believe the ocean is responsible for abrupt climate changes?

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Do you believe the ocean is responsible for abrupt climate changes?

These results provide direct evidence for the ocean’s persistent, central role in abrupt glacial climate change

The idea of Gulf Stream slowdowns as a mechanism in climate change is not merely theoretical

It is very convincing evidence

These results confirm the significance of variations in the rate of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation for abrupt climate changes

 

[shockedcanadian]

Do you believe the ocean is responsible for abrupt climate changes?

These results provide direct evidence for the ocean’s persistent, central role in abrupt glacial climate change

The idea of Gulf Stream slowdowns as a mechanism in climate change is not merely theoretical

It is very convincing evidence

These results confirm the significance of variations in the rate of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation for abrupt climate changes

Is that the next step, eliminate the oceans of the world?

Now that would be one hell of a challenge.

 

[Darkwind]

if anything, the oceans provide a stabalizging element to our climate.

 

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if anything, the oceans provide a stabalizging element to our climate.

Maybe click on the links in the OP.

 

[Darkwind]

Maybe click on the links in the OP.

Thanks. I'll continue to just think for Myself.

 

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Thanks. I'll continue to just think for Myself.

Me too but I'll base my thinking on facts like these.

1. Ocean currents establish climate.
2. The ocean is the largest collector of solar energy.
3. The ocean stores the majority of the planet's heat.
4. The ocean is the largest feature of the planet.
5. The mass of the ocean is 300 times the mass of the atmosphere.
6. The ocean contains 1000 times more heat than the ocean.
7. The ocean heats the atmosphere.
8. The atmosphere does not heat the ocean.
9. Physical evidence shows that when ocean currents change, the climate changes.
10. Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for northern hemisphere glaciation.
11. If heat circulation gets disrupted from the Atlantic to the Arctic, the planet cools.
12. Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for northern hemisphere deglaciation.
13. If heat is being circulated from the Atlantic to the Arctic, the planet warms.
14. Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for the initiation of the Little Ice Age.
15. Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for the end of the Little Ice Age.
16. The current warming trend began 250 years before the industrial revolution.
17. The geologic record is littered with examples of naturally caused warming and cooling trends.
18. Empirical climate evidence shows the planet cooled for millions of years with >600 ppm of CO2.
19. The last interglacial period was 2C warmer with 26ft higher seas and 120ppm less CO2 than today.

 

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Thanks. I'll continue to just think for Myself.

And these too.


https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaf5529?adobe_mc=MCMID=24445298415631476812898182430771639861|MCORGID=242B6472541199F70A4C98A6%40AdobeOrg|TS=1723213472

Sudden climate changes in the recent geological record

https://www.science.org/content/article/crippled-atlantic-currents-triggered-ice-age-climate-change

Collapse and rapid resumption of Atlantic meridional circulation linked to deglacial climate changes - Nature

Destabilisation of the Subpolar North Atlantic prior to the Little Ice Age - Nature Communications

Snapshots of mean ocean temperature over the last 700 000 years using noble gases in the EPICA Dome C ice core

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0031018285800201

Deep Atlantic Circulation During the Last Glacial Maximum and Deglaciation​

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1029/PA005i004p00469

Collapse and rapid resumption of Atlantic meridional circulation linked to deglacial climate changes - Nature​

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2010PA0020

 

[irosie91]

Poseidon is the real GAWD???

 

[Darkwind]

Me too but I'll base my thinking on facts like these.

1. Ocean currents establish climate.
2. The ocean is the largest collector of solar energy.
3. The ocean stores the majority of the planet's heat.
4. The ocean is the largest feature of the planet.
5. The mass of the ocean is 300 times the mass of the atmosphere.
6. The ocean contains 1000 times more heat than the ocean.
7. The ocean heats the atmosphere.
8. The atmosphere does not heat the ocean.
9. Physical evidence shows that when ocean currents change, the climate changes.
10. Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for northern hemisphere glaciation.
11. If heat circulation gets disrupted from the Atlantic to the Arctic, the planet cools.
12. Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for northern hemisphere deglaciation.
13. If heat is being circulated from the Atlantic to the Arctic, the planet warms.
14. Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for the initiation of the Little Ice Age.
15. Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for the end of the Little Ice Age.
16. The current warming trend began 250 years before the industrial revolution.
17. The geologic record is littered with examples of naturally caused warming and cooling trends.
18. Empirical climate evidence shows the planet cooled for millions of years with >600 ppm of CO2.
19. The last interglacial period was 2C warmer with 26ft higher seas and 120ppm less CO2 than today.

All of these arguments support the idea that the oceans are a stabilizing element. All of those changes are long events for millennials.

Number six is an interesting one. The oceans contain 1000 times more heat than....wait for it. The oceans?!? Ummmm...

Numbers 10 and 12 refer to climate change measured in the 1000's of years. It seems pretty stabilizing to Me.

Number 16 makes My point for Me.

 

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All of these arguments support the idea that the oceans are a stabilizing element. All of those changes are long events for millennials.

Number six is an interesting one. The oceans contain 1000 times more heat than....wait for it. The oceans?!? Ummmm...

Numbers 10 and 12 refer to climate change measured in the 1000's of years. It seems pretty stabilizing to Me.

Number 16 makes My point for Me.

Except when they state that changes to the ocean currents (i.e. disruption of heat transport from the Atlantic to the Arctic and restoration of heat transport from the Atlantic to the Arctic) result in abrupt climate change.

It's so commonly known Dave Borlace did a video on it.

 

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All of these arguments support the idea that the oceans are a stabilizing element. All of those changes are long events for millennials.

Number six is an interesting one. The oceans contain 1000 times more heat than....wait for it. The oceans?!? Ummmm...

Numbers 10 and 12 refer to climate change measured in the 1000's of years. It seems pretty stabilizing to Me.

Number 16 makes My point for Me.

Does the temperature record of the past 10 million years look stabilizing to you?

 

[ding]

All of those changes are long events for millennials.

Nope. Read the papers.

Unlike the fake AGW narrative, changes from ocean currents (5C top 8C changes) are abrupt as in decades.

 

[ozro]

Do you believe the ocean is responsible for abrupt climate changes?

These results provide direct evidence for the ocean’s persistent, central role in abrupt glacial climate change

The idea of Gulf Stream slowdowns as a mechanism in climate change is not merely theoretical

It is very convincing evidence

These results confirm the significance of variations in the rate of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation for abrupt climate changes

Bless your heart

 

[CrusaderFrank]

ding

 

[Picaro]

Ocean currents can indeed induce sudden climate change in local micro-climates. Globally it probably averages out long term and keeps the planet as a whole stable. Some of those volcanoes underwater are still dangerous as hell, though, and we know for a fact they can certainly change climate in a wink of an eye over huge areas, and of course change the oceans patterns.

 

[EMH]

The Co2 FRAUD has precisely ZERO EVIDENCE of any sort of "abrupt climate change."

This is taxpayer money wasted on bullshit over a FRAUD that never should have gotten off the ground.