bripat9643
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You don't seem to care about the teenage girls who deliberately get themselves pregnant because they know Uncle Sam will pay the bills for them. By removing the stigma and difficulty of illegitimacy, you promote more of it.Truth hurts?
But it's not the truth.
1. So, are you saying that you want the status quo to continue? You want poor uneducated people to keep having 4 or 5 kids? So what do you want to do about it? If you are like me and bripat9643, all we want to do is cut them off foodstamps, welfare, school lunches and Obamacare. In other words all the things that make it possible for a poor person to have 4 or 5 kids. We should be discouraging not encouraging them to have more kids.
2. The only thing Hitlerish in my plan is that I would tell a woman who wants foodstamps for her 2nd mistake that she has to get fixed or she will not get any additional funds for that second mistake. If she gets fixed she can have the 2nd child and get the foodstamps and Obamacare.
And if she chooses not to get fixed that's ok with us because we aren't paying for the 2nd mistake. Have as many kids as you want as long as you aren't asking for financial help raising them.
1. Explain to me. What is your proposal to solve this problem? Except rounding these poor people and force them to do what you want.
If this is so easy. Donāt you think we could have fixed this a long time ago? Even Bri himself could have fixed this.
You want to cut off food stamps and welfare because they have 4 or 5 kids? Really? Where do you think they will end up? We already have homeless crisis. You want to add more to the problem? Or you are part of the problem?
So Please explain to me how are you going to fix this very simple problem.
2. Thereās no 2nd mistakes with Hitler. They just eliminate the minorities. With inhumane cruelties like some of the people i know here.
Simple solution. If you have one kid you can't afford, come get your food stamps. If you have a second mistake and want double the food stamps ok, but first you have to fix yourself so we know you won't have a 3rd mistake. If you don't fix yourself then you will continue to only get food stamps for 1 kid.
We already see Republican policies where they cut down on how much you get in food stamps is working to lower the number of "mistakes" poor women have. If they aren't going to get more money for their 2nd and 3rd mistake, guess what they do? They don't have the 2nd and 3rd mistake.
I like the idea of just giving them staples. Bread, peanut butter, eggs, milk, spagetti. No more giving them a charge card where they can go to the store and buy steaks and lobster. Fuck that. Here is some shit so you won't starve but I'll be damned if you are going to buy twinkees with your food stamp money.
In other words, food stamps and welfare benefits make poor women not worry about making those mistakes.
You think they'll starve and be homeless if we don't give them food stamps? They won't.
I say they won't make the mistakes if they don't have the social safety nets under them.
The one thing I love that Republicans want to do is make food stamp recipients work 10 hours a week for those benefits. Most of the women won't do the work and will figure it out on their own, rather than work the 10 hours. But right now, all they have to do is go in and fill out a form and they get it. With no plan of how they're going to get off of it. They have no plan to get off of it. So, we have an entire generation of people who are taking advantage.
If you think itās that simple donāt you think we could have fixed those problems right now?
Since when Americans will even agree to that kind of solutions? Itās like dictatorial.
Nice try. But come up with something else more realistic.
No because us liberals won't let conservatives implement the tough love most slackers need.
We worry about the 1 or 2 kids that might starve if we cut them all off foodstamps.
Or we say, "how is mom going to find a job if you are making her work for her foodstamps.
You see, us liberals are good at worrying about the "What ifs" but the fact is, most of these women and their kids aren't going to starve if we cut them off foodstamps. So they don't "need" it but if you are just going to easily and freely give it away, of course they're going to take it.
And right now there is no hoops you have to jump through to get the help. Just go fill out the forms and in a month you'll get this credit card and every month it will have $200 so you can go to the grocery store a buy whatever you want. FUCK THAT. They need to make the food you can buy on foodstamps the most bland boring tasteless shit. So the kids won't starve but they also won't be eating twinkees or lobster anymore. Just oatmeal, bread, cereal, spagetti, milk, etc. Very limited menu for the poor.
I know women who got prego in their 20's and their parents have money. Their parents said, "go get your government assistance".
It used to be in this country that if you couldn't afford to feed, house and cloth your children, then the state took them away from you. That's a policy that needs to be reinstated.