Zone1 Do you believe in Free Speech

[martybegan]

You have it backward. Our election system isn't binary - that's a myth that the two parties are selling. But sadly, for most idiot voters, our thinking and political views are binary. They ignorantly accept the notion that the must vote D or R.

The presidential election is fully designed to be binary, a leftover from when the top two became president and vice president. The combination of the EC and winner take all states relegates any third party without wide appeal and State level winners nothing but a spoiler.

 

[dblack]

No, you aren't. You are complaining without giving any solutions that would work in the real world.

I'm complaining about the movement toward totalitarian government. I don't give a single shit about the various "sides" in the culture war. Government should have no power to dictate culture.

 

[martybegan]

I'm complaining about the movement toward totalitarian government. I don't give a single shit about the various "sides" in the culture war. Government should have no power to dictate culture.

And yet they do, and the left right now is far worse than the right about it.

 

[dblack]

The presidential election is fully designed to be binary, a leftover from when the top two became president and vice president. The combination of the EC and winner take all states relegates any third party without wide appeal and State level winners nothing but a spoiler.

That's just not true. If we don't vote for them, they won't get elected.

 

[dblack]

And yet they do, and the left right now is far worse than the right about it.

So, you want to catch up?

 

[Slade3200]

So you gotta compare kid porn and criminal acts to saying "a woman cannot be a man"?

Of course. Using obvious examples better proves my point

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

because it can be used on anyone if it's used on one.

That's the price of freedom of speech and expression.

You are trying to mix private and public, and that is not how it works.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

It is broke when someone who says "a woman cannot be a man" is banned for a perfectly legal statement.

Start your own platform. Problem solved.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

So you do support abortion right up to the second of birth for whatever reason a woman wants one?

No. Now stop derailing the thread by trying to make this about me.

 

[martybegan]

That's just not true. If we don't vote for them, they won't get elected.

An academic's response to an Engineering problem.

 

[martybegan]

So, you want to catch up?

No, I want to preserve what we have left.

 

[martybegan]

Of course. Using obvious examples better proves my point

No, it shows your use of argumentum ad absurdum to justify silencing political opponents.

 

[martybegan]

You are trying to mix private and public, and that is not how it works.

That's how government in general works. It's how a mixed capitalist economy works.

 

[martybegan]

Start your own platform. Problem solved.

Nope. Just like city hall steps were the commons of old, social media is the commons of the new, and thus needs to be protected the same way.

 

[Slade3200]

No, it shows your use of argumentum ad absurdum to justify silencing political opponents.

Haha… I’m not justifying a thing. I saw you make a statement that I saw as false and I stated an argument showing why. Simple as that. Private companies have the right to regulate their content. I showed why.

 

[martybegan]

No. Now stop derailing the thread by trying to make this about me.

You are the one who went the absolutist route on principles, I'm just asking how absolutist you are on a different topic.

 

[Slade3200]

Nope. Just like city hall steps were the commons of old, social media is the commons of the new, and thus needs to be protected the same way.

While you are allowed to go to city hall and protest you still need to follow the rules or you can be tossed

 

[martybegan]

Haha… I’m not justifying a thing. I saw you make a statement that I saw as false and I stated an argument showing why. Simple as that. Private companies have the right to regulate their content. I showed why.

No, you just like what they are doing because they currently favor silencing your political opponents.

 

[martybegan]

While you are allowed to go to city hall and protest you still need to follow the rules or you can be tossed

The rules were limited to criminal activity, not saying something other people don't like.

 

[dblack]

No, I want to preserve what we have left.

What is it you want to preserve? Clearly, not limited government.

It sounds like what you want to do is abandon the idea of limited government and, instead, use government to win your precious culture war.